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R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 06:34 PM Jul 2015

Democrats are ‘uncomfortable’ with Iran deal because Netanyahu is so ‘influential in our country’

http://mondoweiss.net/2015/07/democrats-uncomfortable-influential

Rep. Keith Ellison of Minnesota spoke to Alyona Minkovski at the Netroots Nation conference in Phoenix. She asked why a lot of Democrats “seem to be waffling” on the Iran deal. His answer suggests that all Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu’s hollering about Iran isn’t just working on Republicans, but on Democrats as well.

“I think what it’s really about is that they are uncomfortable that the Prime Minister of Israel is uncomfortable. Prime Minister Netanyahu has been very vocal in his opposition and actually defied the President and came to speak to a joint session at Congress… A lot of people who find him to be an influential figure in our country are reluctant to embrace this clearly good deal because of his very vehement opposition.

“Here’s the reality: this deal has a very strong inspections regime. The stockpiles of Iran’s fissile material go down 98%, right. They have no opportunity to have any hope to get a nuclear weapon for at least 15 years. Here’s the thing, the United States has about 11,000 nuclear weapons, England has around 3 or 400, France has 3 or 400, Israel is said to have a few hundred– and we’re getting ready to scuttle a deal and perhaps go to war because they might get one in 15 years. That makes absolutely no sense to me.

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Democrats are ‘uncomfortable’ with Iran deal because Netanyahu is so ‘influential in our country’ (Original Post) R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2015 OP
Why? guillaumeb Jul 2015 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author 6chars Jul 2015 #2
Israel is an ally of the US government. guillaumeb Jul 2015 #3
What a vile topic. grossproffit Jul 2015 #6
Like most Mondoweiss headlines - complete BS oberliner Jul 2015 #4
Ober, you're not even trying to convince tonight. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2015 #5

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
1. Why?
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 07:55 PM
Jul 2015

If Netanyahu is so (read too) influential, or the Israeli government as a whole is so influential, why is that so?

Response to guillaumeb (Reply #1)

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
3. Israel is an ally of the US government.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 08:08 PM
Jul 2015

I would argue that Israeli actions are treated differently, but I would not claim that it is because the media is dominated by Jews. That is, and was a common argument made by some anti-Semites.

My argument would be that Israel's and Egypt's actions in the Middle East serve US geostrategic interests, and THAT is why the two countries are given special treatment by the US, and the US corporate media

By the way, I do not feel that the post you referenced makes a claim for an Israeli/Jewish influence in the media.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
4. Like most Mondoweiss headlines - complete BS
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 10:11 PM
Jul 2015

Ellison does not say that Democrats are uncomfortable with Iran deal because Netanyahu is influential in our country.

It's good that the actual quote is up there so folks can see how Mondoweiss works.

They grab a few words from one part of a quote and a few words for a different part of the quote and arrange them with words that are not from any quote in order to create an entirely fabricated headline.


 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
5. Ober, you're not even trying to convince tonight.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 10:43 PM
Jul 2015
“I think what it’s really about is that they are uncomfortable that the Prime Minister of Israel is uncomfortable. Prime Minister Netanyahu has been very vocal in his opposition and actually defied the President and came to speak to a joint session at Congress… A lot of people who find him to be an influential figure in our country are reluctant to embrace this clearly good deal because of his very vehement opposition.


Here's a paragraph, ober. It's a sequential collection of words expressing an idea. I'm sure that you may have seen one of these once.

Notice the bolded words.

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