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Related: About this forumPalestinians may accept non-member state status at UN: Abbas
Source: Agence France-Presse
(AFP) 3 hours ago
PARIS The Palestinians, who saw their full United Nations membership bid rejected by the Security Council, may accept non-member state status, Palestinian president Mahmud Abbas said Friday.
He told reporters during a Paris visit that if Israel did not resume peace negotiations, "we will of course go to the (UN) General Assembly to obtain non-member status, as was the case for Switzerland and the Vatican".
The Palestinians applied for full membership of the UN last September but application hit deadlock at the Security Council where the United States threatened to veto any recommendation in support of the Palestinian bid.
The United States and Israel argue that only direct Palestinian-Israeli talks can produce a definitive peace accord.
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azurnoir
(45,850 posts)to Israel who now has established an overflow area for Jews making aliyah I can see why another couple of decades is desirable, add to that the current push to have only Palestinians born in what is now Israel counted as refugees and taking into account the minimum age for those refugees is 64 years of age and the average Palestinian life expectancy is 72.5 years
http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&met_y=sp_dyn_le00_in&idim=country:WBG&dl=en&hl=en&q=palestinian+life+expectancy
and the RoR problem involved in negotiations practically solves itself, but that is only one point since 1993 the population of Jewish settlers has grown 175% which we are told is natural given another couple of decade and who knows there could be a demographic turn around of sorts in the OPT
shira
(30,109 posts)The occupation and settlements should have ended 12 years ago with the Clinton Initiatives.
Arafat rejected that. It's his fault. He later regretted it:
Arafat approves Taba plan too late
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/jun/22/israel
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)you have stated negotiations will not work the solution should come via by Israeli fiat
shira
(30,109 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)however I blamed no party I simply have pointed out who benefits from protracted negotiations and that you seem to prefer Israel dictating what a Palestinian state will consist of
holdencaufield
(2,927 posts)The failure to negotiate an end to the occupation and the establishment of a Palestinian state lies squarely with those in the West who proliferate the dream that Palestinians can "have it all" if they're just patient enough.
You hear it here all the time, people saying (more like praying) "watch out, Israel, one-state is coming if you're not good", knowing full well that not even the combined efforts of Santa, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy could force a solution on Israel she didn't want.
Palestinians fall asleep every night with the same fairy stories whispered into their ears. A complex, yet entertaining tale about how the Western world really loves them and hates the Jews and -- despite the fact that Palestinians have no bargaining leverage and no way to force the issue -- someday -- the Jews will all just walk away from the farms, the factories, the schools and hospitals that they built from nothing and leave it for the Palestinians.
Want to stop Palestinian suffering? Stop lying to them.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)or is it patronizing?
Why those poor simple natives they simply can not understand.......where oh where have I heard this before?, seems like the '80's and perhaps early 90's, oh yes South African Pro-Apartheidists and Republicans in the US talking about the Democratic party and US minorities, but guess what the Palestinians are not simple people listening to Western lies why some of them can even read and some go to collage too, no the Palestinians have a very good idea as to who they're up against and what they want, no one lies to them