Israel/Palestine
Related: About this forumWJC President Ronald S. Lauder urges Abbas to condemn double terror attack, curb...incitement
http://www.worldjewishcongress.org/en/news/wjc-president-ronald-s-lauder-urges-abbas-to-condemn-double-terror-attack-curb-palestinian-incitement-11-4-2015
Acts of terror against Israeli Jews have become an almost daily news story, Lauder said. As in Paris, the world must show that it will not tolerate such violence and hatred. I urge Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas to curb the incitement and clearly condemn this terror.
[font color = "red"]Condemn it? Abbas is the one inciting it:[/font]
-Mahmoud Abbas. Sept 16, 2015
Ban Ki Moon on Abbas (Sept 2015):
UN Chief Criticizes Abbas Anti-Jewish Incitement, Fears It Will Stoke Tensions in Jerusalem
http://www.thetower.org/2366-un-chief-criticizes-abbas-anti-jewish-incitement-fears-it-will-stoke-tensions-in-jerusalem/
Germany's Angela Merkel (Oct 2015):
Merkel: Abbas can only have peace if he condemns terror
http://www.bicom.org.uk/news-article/27268/
US Congress (Nov 2015):
369 Members of Congress Call on Mahmoud Abbas To Halt 'Incitement'
http://forward.com/news/breaking-news/324240/369-congress-members-call-on-mahmoud-abbas-to-halt-incitement/#ixzz3s8BHQybf
October 20, 2015
Opposition leader MK Yitzhak Herzog on Tuesday evening met with UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, who is visiting Israel in an attempt to calm tensions.
During the meeting, Herzog told the UN chief that the world cannot be silent in the face of the terrorist attacks against Israelis.
Silence or moderate reactions of the world could be interpreted as support for terror. It should be made clear to the Palestinians that the road of terrorism leads to a dangerous deadlock, said Herzog.
#JewishLivesMatter
Abbas admits rejecting Ehud Olmert's peace offer
http://www.thejc.com/news/israel-news/149618/abbas-admits-rejecting-ehud-olmerts-peace-offer
Abbas rejected 2008 peace plan. Those who attribute terrorism to "occupation" are engaging in incitement and should be called out.
shira
(30,109 posts)Nov 20, 2015
http://www.palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=157&doc_id=16222
Abbas' PA controls the state-run media within the territories.
shira
(30,109 posts)Fatah official: There is no difference between Netanyahu and Hitler
http://www.palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=157&doc_id=16305
shira
(30,109 posts)Fatah cartoon compares Jews to ISIS
http://www.palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=762&doc_id=16274
shira
(30,109 posts)6chars
(3,967 posts)For his own words or anything really. It would contradict the myth that Palestinians are helpless victims only reacting to Israeli horror.
I think the idea is if we pretend he is better than he is, he will not do bad things.
shira
(30,109 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)As a Republican, he made a bid to become the mayor of New York City in 1989, losing to Rudy Giuliani in the Republican primary. Michael Massing, writing of this nomination race, notes that politically Lauder seemed out of step with most American Jews; ... he ran to the right of Rudolph Giuliani. And, on Israeli issues, he was a vocal supporter of the Likud party, with long-standing ties to Benjamin Netanyahu."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Lauder
He also served as an ambassador for Ronald Reagan and as a special envoy for Bush2 is a supporter of Likud and has close ties with Netanyahu and Sheldon Adelson
shira
(30,109 posts)Is this just another attempt to derail a thread, deflect....?
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)shira
(30,109 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Is what gives him e support he has. He'll never denounce violence. Not a MLK or a Gandhi to be found.
6chars
(3,967 posts)it really shouldn't be such a high bar. probably wouldn't be if international funds were contingent on responsible policy
Little Tich
(6,171 posts)For me, incitement in this case would be that Abbas actually did or said something that was intended to demonize or condone violence against Jews, or perhaps praising hateful acts against Israelis. It doesn't help either that most of these sources are in themselves suspect, like the Israeli Ministry of Foreign affairs, the Tower, the World Jewish Congress, and of course Palestinian
Media Watch. Surely, if all this "incitement" was "obviously" going on, there would be more mainstream outlets reporting it.
I don't know of any actual incitement from Abbas, but I do know that Israeli ministers regularly call for hard measures or outright violence against Palestinians. And when it comes to demonizing the other side, Netanyahu the Hitler apologist wins big time.
shira
(30,109 posts)Last edited Sun Nov 22, 2015, 12:03 PM - Edit history (3)
-Mahmoud Abbas. Sept 16, 2015
Click the link for the video. It's all over the Israeli and Jewish Press.
Doesn't get much clearer than that. Here's the context:
Abbas statement at a meeting with activists for the defense of the Noble Sanctuary (i.e., the Temple Mount)
PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas: We bless you, we bless the Murabitin (those carrying out Ribat, religious conflict/war to protect land claimed to be Islamic), we bless every drop of blood that has been spilled for Jerusalem, which is clean and pure blood, blood spilled for Allah, Allah willing. Every Martyr (Shahid) will reach Paradise, and everyone wounded will be rewarded by Allah. The Al-Aqsa [Mosque] is ours, the Church of the Holy Sepulchre is ours, and they have no right to defile them with their filthy feet. We will not allow them to, and we will do everything in our power to protect Jerusalem.
You don't believe PMW, but the NYT covers the same foul speech. Here's the NYT quoting from it:
Responding to the video, Dore Gold, the director general of the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs, said Thursday: Today the world is divided between those trying to undermine religious coexistence and those trying to protect it. By saying that the filthy feet of Jewish visitors to the Temple Mount desecrate it, Mahmoud Abbas has now clarified on which side he stands.