Israel/Palestine
Related: About this forumPandering on Israel, Clinton equates BDS to extremism and Iran as threats to U.S.
Yesterday Hillary Clinton gave a speech in Washington at the Saban Forum of Brookings that included more pandering to Israel than any speech Ive heard from any American politician. It was endless. Israel is a brave democracy, a light unto the nations, a miracle, its prowess in war is inspiring, and we must take the US-Israel relationship to the next level.
Introduced by her good friend the Israeli-American megadonor, Haim Saban, Clinton bragged that she and Israel were born a few months apart, gave a shoutout to Israels former lawyer in the White House, Dennis Ross, and assured Ari Shavit the rightwing Israeli columnist that the military option was still on the table with Iran. In fact, she repeatedly slammed Iran as a bad actor and did all she could to distance herself from the Iran deal and from secretary of state John Kerry, who gave a more realistic speech the day before. She never mentioned the occupation, vaguely touched on settlements as a problem, and praised the late Clintonite Sandy Berger as a steadfast friend to Israel.
Just as the Republican candidates had attacked Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement (BDS) at the Republican Jewish Coalition last week, Clinton said that BDS was hurting the U.S.s ability to fight terrorism. This is language straight out of Benjamin Netanyahus office.
I wonder if US politicians were this blind to South African apartheid as they are to Israel's now...
oberliner
(58,724 posts)The same Donald Trump who has just called for banning all Muslims from traveling to the United States.
In case you missed it:
Trump wasnt anti-Semitic
http://mondoweiss.net/2015/12/trump-wasnt-semitic
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Hoping nobody will read it?
More important, this was a moment of truth-telling. The (mostly) men in that room are there because theyre wealthy and theyre shopping for pro-Israel candidates. I saw this same crowd at the King David Hotel in Jerusalem raising money for Mitt Romney in 2012. You didnt get into the lunch by having good ideas. It was a $50,000-a-plate meal. Buying candidates for Israel is the name of the game. Foreign Policy wrote recently that big donors are making the pro-Israel issue the test of being Jewish In the Jewish community, the big donors have unnuanced views on Israel, said one Jewish critic. Rabbi Steven Gutow of the Jewish Council on Public Affairs said a month ago that the Jewish community has given too much power to rightwing pro-Israel donors. In our community, there is this strange hegemony of big donors demanding control of decisions.
Again: thats the money Trump was addressing. He knows many of them from business. The guy who introduced him even made a joke about a $10 side-bet hed made on what Trump wouldnt say.
You dont think money in politics is corrupting? I do. A few weeks back Trump said that Marco Rubio would become the perfect little puppet of Sheldon Adelson if Adelson supports him, and it was a true statement. Rubio wont be out-Israeled by anyone, as he showed yesterday in denouncing Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions in his speech, and saying Jerusalem will always be Israels capital, and hell shred the Iran deal. Trump to his credit did not make those promises. In fact, he got booed for refusing to say that Jerusalem must remain undivided. Though he loves Netanyahu, who can doubt thats his real sentiment. Whats the source of his independence? Because hes not looking for money, hes not bought and paid for by the Israel lobby, as Tom Friedman once wrote about the Congress.
What Mondoweiss is doing is showing that the GOP is letting the truth slip out...their view on Israel that they only speak behind closed doors. I guess the GOP is breaking. Sad that some don't want to revel in that, ober.
But go ahead, have your phantoms if you like. Some people need their demons.
King_David
(14,851 posts)http://mondoweiss.net/2015/09/republicans-donors-coulters
and very recently has defended and supported Donald Trump,
http://mondoweiss.net/2015/12/trump-wasnt-semitic
Mondowess has trashed both Hillary Clinton as well as Bernie Sanders.
http://mondoweiss.net/2015/05/sanders-leftwing-economic
http://mondoweiss.net/2015/09/sanders-economic-pussycat
http://mondoweiss.net/2015/10/hillary-clinton-palestinians
That Mondoweiss is used here on DU by only one particular poster is unfathomable.....
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)of those it deems enemies of Israel/Jews no distinction seems to be made except for Phil Weiss of Mondoweiss and Jewish Voices for Peace whom they list as being the same as Hamas
http://canarymission.org/organizations/
more about Canary Mission from the Forward
It is your duty to ensure that todays radicals are not tomorrows employees, a female narrator intones in a slick video posted to the websites YouTube account.
Called Canary Mission, the site has posted profiles of dozens of students and recent graduates, alongside those of well-known activists like Omar Barghouti, founder of the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement. Some of the students are active in Students for Justice in Palestine; others were involved in recent pro-BDS resolutions at campuses in California. Many of them have relatively thin activist résumés.
Read more: http://forward.com/news/308902/shadowy-web-site-creates-black-list-of-pro-palestinian-activists/#ixzz3thDQ8oPb
King_David
(14,851 posts)Mondoweiss regularly trashes Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clindon
Mondoweiss Supports Anne Coulter and Donald Trump
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)now works under the auspices of the also Rightwing Washington Post
King_David
(14,851 posts)http://mondoweiss.net/2015/09/republicans-donors-coulters
and very recently has defended and supported Donald Trump,
http://mondoweiss.net/2015/12/trump-wasnt-semitic
Mondowess has trashed both Hillary Clinton as well as Bernie Sanders.
http://mondoweiss.net/2015/05/sanders-leftwing-economic
http://mondoweiss.net/2015/09/sanders-economic-pussycat
http://mondoweiss.net/2015/10/hillary-clinton-palestinians
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)King_David
(14,851 posts)There is nothing novel about it. Its not the new anti-semitism that the Anti-Defamation League likes to talk about. But the old kind, masquerading as anti-Zionism but manifesting itself as support or, at least, sympathy for every group or individual hostile to Jews: from Pat Buchanan to Hizbullah.
The only difference between this anti-semitism and the old-fashioned kind is that it has no impact. If you dont visit Mondoweiss or other websites like it, you wont know it exists. It threatens no one. It is just ugly. But ugly and irrelevant.
http://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/2014/03/16/is-anti-semitism-dead/
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)March 16, 2014 at 10:48 am
King_David
(14,851 posts)One of the few times MJ Rosenberg has been 100% spot on.....
Mondoweiss is bigoted , insignificant trash , and if not for DU and now 2 posters would have a tiny readership.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)I pointed out the reply to Rosenberg's article from the editor of the publication is was written for
Mondofront: Removing All Doubt
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/05/10/974737/-Mondofront-Removing-All-Doubt
Mondofront: Now with Gilad Atzmon
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/06/29/988922/-Mondofront-Now-with-Gilad-Atzmon
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)King_David
(14,851 posts)March 21, 2014 at 4:26 am
What do you call someone who writes this kind of stuff on his blog:
Walk around Harvard and the Kennedy School, what are the names on
the buildings? Taubman, Rubenstein, Belfer, Weiner. Where do you think
the money is coming from in academia?
http://mondoweiss.net/2008/05/goyishe-grows-m.html
Or who bemoans the fact that Jane Harman has not been identified as a Jew:
Jane Harmans Jewish. There, I just said it.
http://mondoweiss.net/2009/04/press-cant-say-it-but-a-blogger-can-jane-harmans-jewish.html
Or who says that in order for Obama to get the Jewish funding he had in the last election he has to make a trip to Israel.
http://mondoweiss.net/2011/05/obamas-to-do-list-free-pollard-in-may-so-he-can-travel-safely-to-israel-in-june.html
Or who kvetches about the Jewish control of the Clinton campaign with a piece titled Hillarys Costly Braintrust, the New Jewish Establishment
http://mondoweiss.net/2008/02/hillarys-costly.html
Or who writes a piece called Liberals like to deceive themselves about Jewish power.
http://mondoweiss.net/2009/10/liberals-like-to-deceive-themselves-about-jewish-power.html
Or who promotes the antisemitite Gilad Atzman?
http://mondoweiss.net/2011/06/i-found-my-identity-down-on-highway-61.html
Its not just the comments that are the problem at Mondoweiss.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)March 16, 2014 at 10:48 am
Ive always been thrilled to have MJ Rosenberg as one of our bloggers. But I have to strongly object to calling Mondoweiss Anti-Semitic. I do believe that their constant criticism of Israel is unfair, one-sided, and shows none of the compassion that we progressives ought to be showing to those with whom we disagree. I do often disagree with articles that are published on that site (but then again, I often disagree with articles published on this Tikkun Daily blog, and Im the editor (who believes in free speech). Yet I think it is a disservice to the term anti-Semitism to use it as equivalent to having unfair and excessive criticism of Israel. The term means hating Jews and wishing them ill, and I dont believe that the editors at Mondoweiss fit that description. Nor do I think it appropriate for our Tikkun Daily blog to be a place where we throw that term around except where it appliesto groups that do in fact hate Jews and wish Jews ill. There are such groups, and they have been popping up all over Europe once again and most recently in the Ukraine. So I want to apologize to Mondoweiss for this article and urge all who use this site to avoid those kinds of accusations unless they are backed up with detailed specific examples that prove the charge beyond a reasonable doubt. Rabbi Michael Lerner, Editor, Tikkun
http://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/2014/03/16/is-anti-semitism-dead/
but I will compliment you on those lists compiled in just moments almost as though they were precompiled but I am sure that's not the case
King_David
(14,851 posts)WTF ??
You know what I do and do not know?
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)shira
(30,109 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)as in 'paleocon' which hardly fits Mondoweiss
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleoconservatism
shira
(30,109 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)play guilt by extremely loose association all you wish
shira
(30,109 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)as they both worked for MSNBC at the same time as to UNZ back it up with something , remember one of Weisses BIGGEST contributors
shira
(30,109 posts)You know who Justin Raimondo is? Phil Weiss does. Ergo, MONDO-WEISS.
King_David
(14,851 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)is the co-founder of mondoweiss doesn't get mentioned here nor is he on staff
http://mondoweiss.net/about-mondoweiss
Little Tich
(6,171 posts)I think it's a little bit unseemly that a potential Democratic Presidential Candidate cozies up to a vile right-wing racist like Netanyahu. I know that she wants to get the candidacy, but kissing ass is what Republicans do.