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bemildred

(90,061 posts)
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 10:04 AM Apr 2016

Bernie Sanders smashes the Israel status quo

New York (CNN)Bernie Sanders is taking a sledgehammer to the political status quo on Israel.

Sanders refused to back down Thursday night from his claim that Israel in 2014 used "disproportionate" force to respond to Hamas rocket fire from Gaza while calling for the United States to stop being "one-sided" in the conflict there. In doing so, he upended a long-standing tenet of American politics: that unflinching support for Israel is non-negotiable.

Sanders' unorthodox remarks at CNN's Democratic debate came just days before voters head to the polls in New York, where Sanders is fighting to narrow the significant, but not insurmountable, deficit he faces against former New York Sen. Hillary Clinton.

The Empire State's 19.79 million residents include the country's largest Jewish population -- some 1.8 million of the country's 6.8 million Jews live there, according to the 2014 American Jewish Year Book -- and one of the most active pro-Israel constituencies.

http://us.cnn.com/2016/04/16/politics/bernie-sanders-israel-democratic-politics/index.html

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Bernie Sanders smashes the Israel status quo (Original Post) bemildred Apr 2016 OP
Great stuff yourpaljoey Apr 2016 #1
Think this will help BS in the NY vote ? King_David Apr 2016 #2
I don't think it is a top 10 issue for most people, even in New York oberliner Apr 2016 #4
Yep King_David Apr 2016 #6
Agree but Sanders campaign not as sure as you are, King_David Apr 2016 #7
It's one of the top issues for many in my family. grossproffit Apr 2016 #9
Yes, there are some voters for whom this is a top issue oberliner Apr 2016 #11
I remember your "All he had to say was 'I love the Jew, denounce the zionist" post grossproffit Apr 2016 #10
Bernie's position is not particularly different from the current administration position oberliner Apr 2016 #3
Yes. nt bemildred Apr 2016 #5
So he's obviously smashing the status quo. Igel Apr 2016 #8
He may have challenged the status quo, but it's a very determined opponent. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #12
and he got smashed in New York effin badly ericson00 Apr 2016 #13
+1 grossproffit Apr 2016 #14
+1 King_David Apr 2016 #15

King_David

(14,851 posts)
2. Think this will help BS in the NY vote ?
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 10:18 AM
Apr 2016

Among the large pro Israel Jewish community,who are 90%+ Demorats ?

Maybe the campaign calculated they support HRC to a large extent anyway.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
4. I don't think it is a top 10 issue for most people, even in New York
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 10:23 AM
Apr 2016

The Democrats who do put this issue at the top of their list already know which way they are going to vote, I would think.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
7. Agree but Sanders campaign not as sure as you are,
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 10:25 AM
Apr 2016

Hence the suspension of the AntiZionist , Jewish outreach lady.

grossproffit

(5,591 posts)
9. It's one of the top issues for many in my family.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 09:26 PM
Apr 2016

My husband refuses to vote for Bernie if he's the nominee. He went from maybe to hell no.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
11. Yes, there are some voters for whom this is a top issue
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 10:35 AM
Apr 2016

I just think it's a pretty small percentage of the electorate.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
3. Bernie's position is not particularly different from the current administration position
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 10:20 AM
Apr 2016

The Obama administration has leveled the same criticism on Israel about Gaza and settlements.

This actually seems to be a topic where Bernie is much more on the same page with Obama than Hillary is.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
12. He may have challenged the status quo, but it's a very determined opponent.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 07:04 PM
Apr 2016

The danger of taking a bold stand before an election is that the results of that election get spun as a referendum on that issue.

 

ericson00

(2,707 posts)
13. and he got smashed in New York effin badly
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:58 PM
Apr 2016

there is no place for anti-Zionism in the Democratic Party, or America, EVER. America is a pro-Jewish pro-Israel country, now and forever, unlike European countries.

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