Israel/Palestine

whathehell

(30,259 posts) Sun Aug 31, 2025, 07:48 PM Sunday

I'll just leave this here..

Former top Biden Spokesperson for the State Department admits that Israel sabatoged ceasefire deals as US blamed Hamas...

They knowingly lied to America, it seems..I've always been a big Biden fan, but this truly demoralizes me.

https://truthout.org/articles/former-top-biden-spox-admits-israel-sabotaged-ceasefire-deals-as-us-blamed-hamas/

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I'll just leave this here.. (Original Post) whathehell Sunday OP

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Sunday #1

this was posted here before. It is a misleading article and Truthout is not Dem friendly IMO LymphocyteLover Sunday #2

I never saw it posted here before whathehell Monday #4

Lots of nominally Dem-friendly lefties love to bash Dems and subtly undercut them LymphocyteLover Monday #5

The accusations of "dems bashing dems" here whathehell Monday #6

well, the piece "demoralized" you about Dems & IMO, that was one intention of the piece LymphocyteLover Tuesday #7

Um, no..It demoralized me about Biden whathehell Tuesday #8

OK LymphocyteLover Tuesday #9

You betcha whathehell Wednesday #10

"Ample reports"? Lol. AloeVera 10 hrs ago #11

nearly 2 years on, by now many a national politician Tetrachloride Sunday #3

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LymphocyteLover

(8,668 posts)

2. this was posted here before. It is a misleading article and Truthout is not Dem friendly IMO

Reply to whathehell (Original post)

Sun Aug 31, 2025, 08:46 PM

Sunday

whathehell

(30,259 posts)

4. I never saw it posted here before

Reply to LymphocyteLover (Reply #2)

Mon Sep 1, 2025, 12:13 AM

Monday

and I'd guess the 7 people who rec'd it didn't either.

So you don't think Truthout' is "Dem friendly"?
Well, that would surprise me, given its best known columnist, the late William Rivers Pitt, was a DU member who posted here regularly

LymphocyteLover

(8,668 posts)

5. Lots of nominally Dem-friendly lefties love to bash Dems and subtly undercut them

Reply to whathehell (Reply #4)

Mon Sep 1, 2025, 08:11 AM

Monday

And it was posted at DU before. Clearly no one can keep track of everything posted here.

See here:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1134144868

whathehell

(30,259 posts)

6. The accusations of "dems bashing dems" here

Reply to LymphocyteLover (Reply #5)

Mon Sep 1, 2025, 09:17 PM

Monday

are often strictly a matter of opinion and open to dispute. As for the article being posted before, I didn't argue otherwise, I simply said I hadn't seen it and guessed that others hadn't either.
To be frank, The only thing in your post that actually drew my attention was your claim that the article itself was "misleading"....You didn't substantiate this claim then, so please feel free to do so now.

LymphocyteLover

(8,668 posts)

7. well, the piece "demoralized" you about Dems & IMO, that was one intention of the piece

Reply to whathehell (Reply #6)

Tue Sep 2, 2025, 07:13 AM

Tuesday

The piece is misleading because it acts like the administration only ever blamed Hamas for the lack of progress in peace, but that's simply not true-- there were ample reports that Israel/Netanyahu were being difficult and blocking ceasefire agreements.