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shira

(30,109 posts)
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 05:19 PM Sep 2012

PA hypocrisy: Don't defame religion (unless it's Judaism)

Documenting Palestinian Authority Antisemitism

Mahmoud Abbas:
"Insulting religions, faiths, or religious symbols
cannot in any way be a part of freedom of belief
or freedom of expression."

Religious lesson in official PA daily:
"The struggle between truth and falsehood is as ancient
as life upon this earth... The conflict between us and the Jews
is not a conflict about land and borders,
but rather a conflict about faith and existence."

more...
http://palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=157&doc_id=7475

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PA hypocrisy: Don't defame religion (unless it's Judaism) (Original Post) shira Sep 2012 OP
so your saying that Judaism is in fact just a religion?n/t azurnoir Sep 2012 #1
No. The PLO & Hamas believe the conflict..... shira Sep 2012 #2
doesn't answer the question if one reads the entire comment n/t azurnoir Sep 2012 #3
What do you think of the OP? shira Sep 2012 #6
I think its a typical PalWatch piece n/t azurnoir Sep 2012 #7
Meaning, what? It can be safely ignored... shira Sep 2012 #8
doesn't "holy war" = Jihad? azurnoir Sep 2012 #9
Huh? Jihad vs. Jews, right? Call it what you wish... shira Sep 2012 #10
lol I was talking about avoidance carefully chosen wording azurnoir Sep 2012 #12
So PMW is just a hate group making shit up? shira Sep 2012 #13
PMW is an antiPalestinian group and they take sound bytes from various azurnoir Sep 2012 #15
So when anti-Israel groups take sound bytes... shira Sep 2012 #16
that depends on ones POV I am sure there are 'some' here would azurnoir Sep 2012 #18
There are definitely some here... shira Sep 2012 #20
I already did remember n/t azurnoir Sep 2012 #21
You didn't point out anything wrong with the PMW report.... shira Sep 2012 #22
When someone is ... holdencaufield Sep 2012 #4
Obsessed? I asked a question did it make you uncomfortable or what? azurnoir Sep 2012 #5
Do you really think Judaism is a religion? shira Sep 2012 #11
actually I had that conversation yesterday whether or not atheist this or that was common azurnoir Sep 2012 #14
You asked whether Judaism is just a religion.... shira Sep 2012 #17
yes and it took you 10+ comments to reply azurnoir Sep 2012 #19
 

shira

(30,109 posts)
6. What do you think of the OP?
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 06:11 PM
Sep 2012

And the answer is of course, "No", to your question.

Isn't it obvious the PA and Hamas see the conflict as a holy war b/w Jews and Muslims?



 

shira

(30,109 posts)
8. Meaning, what? It can be safely ignored...
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 06:40 AM
Sep 2012

....as if it isn't true?

And b/c it's ignored, the narrative can remain intact.

Abbas gets a free pass for his vile bigotry.

No condemnation whatsoever required.

It's only PMW.

They make it all up, evidently.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
9. doesn't "holy war" = Jihad?
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 01:42 PM
Sep 2012

strange that PalWatch would chose that word or is it? Perhaps a lame attempt to disassociate with this?

?4



 

shira

(30,109 posts)
10. Huh? Jihad vs. Jews, right? Call it what you wish...
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 06:20 PM
Sep 2012

And I have no idea why you brought up that ad. What does it have to do with PMW?

You don't believe the PMW report is true, right?

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
12. lol I was talking about avoidance carefully chosen wording
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 06:34 PM
Sep 2012

because this can not be seen as a variant of that sign sponcered by a hate group, even though most people know what holy war means

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
15. PMW is an antiPalestinian group and they take sound bytes from various
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 06:43 PM
Sep 2012

Palestinian sources, as I said this is typical for them it is indeed their mission nothing more nothing less

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
16. So when anti-Israel groups take sound bytes...
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 06:53 PM
Sep 2012

...or whatever, against Israel, the content can be just as safely ignored with Israel NEVER having to be criticized?

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
18. that depends on ones POV I am sure there are 'some' here would
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 07:22 PM
Sep 2012

or more likely a team of 'experts' would point out the inaccuracies in such a thing, would you deny that?

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
20. There are definitely some here...
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 07:26 PM
Sep 2012

...who would take whatever the anti-Israel contingent dishes out and point out the inaccuracies.

Can you do that WRT the PMW report?

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
22. You didn't point out anything wrong with the PMW report....
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 07:37 PM
Sep 2012

Last edited Thu Sep 27, 2012, 05:24 AM - Edit history (1)

All you did was:

1. Question whether Judaism is just a religion.

2. Imply with that ad in #9 that any criticism of the PA is bigoted.

 

holdencaufield

(2,927 posts)
4. When someone is ...
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 11:18 PM
Sep 2012

... as obsessed with Jews and Judaism as you clearly seem to be ... I would think you would know that Judaism is a religion as well as an ethnicity.

What part of that is confusing for you?

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
5. Obsessed? I asked a question did it make you uncomfortable or what?
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 12:54 AM
Sep 2012

I take it I should not question, otherwise it is deemed an obsession

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
14. actually I had that conversation yesterday whether or not atheist this or that was common
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 06:40 PM
Sep 2012

religions in general or just Judaism but in fact no I was not making that claim at all, my question had to do with the title of the thread, which claims this is about defaming the Jewish religion but you couldn't grasp that?

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
17. You asked whether Judaism is just a religion....
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 06:56 PM
Sep 2012

It's a religion as well as an ethnicity.

Don't know why you asked at all - other than to derail the thread.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
19. yes and it took you 10+ comments to reply
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 07:24 PM
Sep 2012

but seriously if such an argument was to made by the other side the antizio's as you wish to them or us, you would do the same

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