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Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 08:59 PM Nov 2012

I'm ashamed to be Canadian over this issue:(

FUCKING STEPHEN HARPER AND HIS CONSERVATIVE GOVERNMENT. YOU DON'T REPRESENT ME!!

So I'm sure you know Canada was among the 9 UN nations to vote against recognizing Palestine as a "non-member state".



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I'm ashamed to be Canadian over this issue:( (Original Post) Locut0s Nov 2012 OP
Were you ashamed of ... holdencaufield Nov 2012 #1
that's just about the reddest herring I've seen all day.... mike_c Nov 2012 #2
Indeed. eom Purveyor Nov 2012 #3
Nothing TomClash Nov 2012 #5
That apology had nothing to do with Harper's beliefs Ken Burch Dec 2012 #7
We can both be ashamed to "North American." TomClash Nov 2012 #4
You are far from alone! delrem Dec 2012 #6
Not being Canadian....... kayecy Dec 2012 #8
Harper's motivation?? delrem Dec 2012 #9
Thank you for that explanation.........................n/t kayecy Dec 2012 #10
The worst... ocpagu Dec 2012 #11
 

holdencaufield

(2,927 posts)
1. Were you ashamed of ...
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 09:11 PM
Nov 2012

... Mr Harper when he apologized on behalf of the Canadian government for two centuries horrible mistreatment of Native Canadians? It seems Mr. Harper has the courage to stand up for what he believes.

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
2. that's just about the reddest herring I've seen all day....
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 09:23 PM
Nov 2012


And DU is a font of scarlet fishes, LOL. Pray tell us what "two centuries horrible mistreatment of Native Canadians" has to do with recognition of Palestinian rights?

TomClash

(11,344 posts)
5. Nothing
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 09:55 PM
Nov 2012

The only good thing in that post is the avatar. And that has been tarnished miserably by the rulers of the realm.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
7. That apology had nothing to do with Harper's beliefs
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 03:07 AM
Dec 2012

He was forced into it by public pressure from below. If he'd really meant that apology. Harper and his government wouldn't ALSO be pushing to extinguish First Nations land claims so that Harper's buddies in the extraction industries could despoil traditional lands at their will.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
6. You are far from alone!
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 02:51 AM
Dec 2012

There were over 1000 comments on the Globe and Mail article
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/canada-temporarily-recalls-palestinian-un-envoys-but-says-it-isnt-breaking-off-relations/article5832220/
and I scrolled through 8 pages of them. In those 8 pages *100%* of the comments expressed shame, dismay, an intense feeling of loss for how far Canada has fallen from the vision of Lester Pearson. And they expressed well-deserved contempt for Harper.

kayecy

(1,417 posts)
8. Not being Canadian.......
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 03:34 AM
Dec 2012

Not being Canadian.......Does anyone know why Harper is so pro-Israeli?........What about the Canadian people in general?.....I always thought of Canadians being almost boringly neutral with regard to overseas conflicts.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
9. Harper's motivation??
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 11:24 AM
Dec 2012

I can only guess.

Harper was one of the original founders of the Reform Party, a western Canadian based group founded to protest and replace the "leftist" Conservative party. The Reform Party was US-centric (had no ideas of its own) and heavily promoted by right wing radio crazies of the kind that promote the "Tea Party" in the states. It was "way gone". The Reform Party eventually merged with the defunct Conservative Party, thereby rebranding itself as mainstream conservative by appropriating that name (oh yes, control of terminology and semantics is critically important in politics!), and after a couple minority gov't wins it won a majority gov't in 2011. And now we're in for it.

After reading what he's had to say about several important social, economic and geopolitical issues, I think it's fair to say that he is far and away to the radical right of what appears on the bland gray saccharine surface seen by the casual midstream voters of whatever leaning who get their news from headlines, press releases and photo-ops. He has said that Canada will be unrecognizable when he's finished with it. Bottom line, he has said that what's good for the USA is good for Canada, and what's bad for the USA is bad for Canada (*not* vice-versa). So evidence is that he sides ideologically with the USA whatever the current USA political/economical position might be, even if to the detriment of Canada as we know it - the ostensible justification being that Canada would derive some trickle-down benefit.

So my guess is that he's simply doing what comes naturally to him, demonstrating the fact that he's as close to being an absolute quisling of his US master as it's possible for a Canadian PM to be.

 

ocpagu

(1,954 posts)
11. The worst...
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 03:31 AM
Dec 2012

...is that Harper said that turning Palestine into a non-member state was an "impediment to peace"...

Gladly, now Harper must only just accept this is a global consensus.

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