Righting the wrong

[Israeli]

Op-ed: Release of Palestinian prisoners justified in light of violent Israeli occupation

Yigal Sarna Published: 08.14.13, 09:02 / Israel Opinion

If we were living in a civilized country that does not have a belligerent and oppressive regime, where the justice system treats everyone equally, then I would be opposed to the release of Palestinian prisoners – with or without blood on their hands.

However, since we live under circumstances that are the complete opposite from those described above, when beneath us a nation is suffering under the continuous violent occupation, when the military and civilian justice systems blatantly discriminate between Jews and Arabs (out of 800 cases involving Palestinian minors, only in one was the Palestinian exonerated) – in light of all this, I support any release of Palestinian prisoners.

Since faulty evidence that would not be admissible in any civilian court does not stand in the way of verdicts - I support the release of Palestinian prisoners.

In a country where a senior minister can still keep his job after boasting that he has killed Palestinians and proudly waving his hands that are stained with the blood of his neighbors, where a killer of Jews is justifiably hunted down until he is caught while killers of Palestinians can escape punishment - in such a country I consider the early release of Palestinian prisoners on the occasion of the resumption of peace negotiations as righting a wrong that is greater than the injustice of their release.

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http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4417488,00.html

[shira]

1. More like 2 wrongs make a right to this author. Not impressed. n/t

[oberliner]

2. Some info on a few of those being released

Salah Ibrahim Ahmed Mugdad, who was arrested in June 1993 for the murder of Israel Tenenbaum, a 72-year-old security guard at the Sirens Hotel in Netanya. The Fatah member struck Tenenbaum on the head with an iron bar and stole a television set from the hotel.

Mustafa Othman al-Haj, who was arrested in June 1989 for the murder of 48-year-old Steven Frederick Rosenfeld. Rosenfeld had been hiking in the hills near Ariel and was stabbed with his own knife by a group of shepherds, who hid his body.

Salameh Abdallah Musleh, who was charged in October 1993 with the murder of Reuven David two years earlier. David, 59, owned a Petah Tikva grocery store. He was beaten and robbed by Musleh and an accomplice.

Atiyeh Salem Musa, who, along with an accomplice, used an ax to murder a Jewish co-worker, 67-year-old Isaac Rotenberg, during Passover 1994. The murder took place while Rotenberg was hunched on his knees fixing a floor at his place of employment in Petah Tikva. He was struck on the back of his neck, dying two days later.

Salah Mahmoud Mukled, who was arrested in July 1993 for the stabbing death in a Gush Katif greenhouse of Yeshayahu Deutsch, his Jewish employer, and the attempted murder of another local resident.

http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/Profiling-the-prisoners-set-to-be-released-this-week-322861

[azurnoir]

6. well it seems your on board these days with listing the names of those released

because you seemed upset about it here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=45324

[oberliner]

11. Not just the names - the descriptions of the crimes

You are the one keen on just a list of names with no information.

[Israeli]

3. Some info on those protesting the release ....

and wanting their own released as well ......... next they will be screaming for us to release Yigal Amir to !!!




Rachel and Ofra Popper, mother and sister of prisoner Ami Popper, who murdered seven Palestinians on 1990, protest together with right-wing Israeli activists outside Ayalon Prison, demanding the release of their relatives, August 13, 2013 in Ramla, Israel. The protest was held hours before Israel was set to release 26 Palestinian prisoners as part of Israeli-Palestinian negotiations.




Israeli right-wing activists and family members of Jewish prisoners who killed Palestinians protest outside Ayalon Prison demanding the release of their relatives on August 13, 2013 in Ramla, Israel. The protest was held hours before Israel was set to release 26 Palestinian prisoners as part of Israeli-Palestinian negotiations.

Source: http://972mag.com/photos-right-wing-israelis-protest-palestinian-prisoner-release/77374/

[oberliner]

4. Heartbreaking

Especially to see those children whose relatives were killed by criminals who are now being set free.

[Israeli]

5. oberliner

you that are such an expert on everything Israeli

Do you know who Yigal Sarna is ?

here is a hint .....

same people you are breaking your heart over murdered Emil Grunzweig.

[azurnoir]

7. perhaps he does but perhaps others don't

and it is that factor that is key to such posts

[Israeli]

21. yes you are correct

I will set that straight then azurnoir , thanks ....

Yigal Sarna is a left wing secular sabra , born in Tel Aviv in 1952.
He received the IBM Prize for Tolerance for a series of articles about Iranian political refugees in an Israeli prison.

He was a tank commander during the 1973 war and was one of the founding members of Peace Now.

[oberliner]

8. I'm not an expert at all

I just think people who commit murder ought to be locked up for life.

[Israeli]

10. same way I feel about traitors ....

so do you think Jonathan Jay Pollard should be locked up for life ?

[oberliner]

12. No I think 30 years or so is good for him

2015 is when he is up for parole, that seems about right.

[Israeli]

14. up to America

.... just keep him there
cos we dont want him here .

[oberliner]

15. Agreed

Though it seems like some Israelis do seem keen on bringing him over there. Not sure what that is all about to be honest.

[Israeli]

22. well oberliner...

the one fighting the hardest for him is none other than MK Moshe Feiglin..... their great buddies dont you know . Enough said .

[oberliner]

26. Has there been a survey in Israel?

Be curious to know what the prevailing opinion is among ordinary Israelis - not politicians - on this topic.

[shira]

19. Pollard should be treated the same as other spies/traitors....

It appears his sentence is significantly greater than others who did as much, or even less damage than him.

[Israeli]

23. you accusing ....

the American legal system of anti-semitism shira ?

and why not ...

as Shulamit Aloni says it is the oldest trick in the book ..... of course according to you she is a liar .

[shira]

27. No, are you thinking Pollard is the worst of US spies deserving of a sentence....

...that is significantly longer than all others in modern times?

[Israeli]

28. no idea ....

and dont care shira

he is America's problem not mine

why do you defend someone that betrayed your own country shira ??

[shira]

29. Thought you cared about fairness and justice. n/t

[Dick Dastardly]

18. In some cases they should get more than that.

I am against the death penalty except in cases where guilt is beyond any doubt for heinous crimes like the cold blooded murder of children, serial killers, mass murderers and terrorist murderers. For example BTK, Dahmer, Saddam, Kuntar and the guy who shot all those kids at the school are all deserving examples of those I would not have any problem with being executed.

[Israeli]

9. keep on ignoring me oberliner....

did they stop at Emil Grunzweig ?

No they did not .

The assassination of Yitzhak Rabin took place on November 4, 1995 (12th of Marcheshvan, 5756 on the Hebrew Calendar) at 21:30, at the end of a rally in support of the Oslo Accords at the Kings of Israel Square in Tel Aviv. The assassin, a religious Zionist named Yigal Amir, strenuously opposed Rabin's peace initiative and particularly the signing of the Oslo Accords.

source : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Yitzhak_Rabin

[oberliner]

13. Not sure what I'm ignoring

The guy who shot Rabin is in jail for life - and it is my opinion that he should rot there.

[Israeli]

16. Good ...

then we are in total agreement ...... Yigal Amir and Jonathan Jay Pollard should both rot in jail for life .

[oberliner]

17. Do you support this current prisoner release?

I'm assuming you do from the fact that you posted this OP - but, please set me straight if I am wrong.

[Israeli]

24. Bibi chose the prisoner release...

over a settlement freeze oberliner
now if that does not speak volumes to you then you are a lost hope

if you are asking me do I agree with what Yigal wrote ... then yes ... every word of it .

[oberliner]

25. A lost hope?

I was just asking if you support the prisoner release or not.

[shira]

20. Agree on Yigal Amir. Not sure about Pollard....

...unless others like him were sentenced for the same amount of time, which I doubt.