Have you met the new Miss Israel?

[JDPriestly]

http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/12/world/africa/yityish-aynaw-miss-israel-ethiopia/index.html



Do you think Jesus' mother Mary looked more like this year's Miss Israel or like the Mona Lisa.

http://www.google.com/imgres?sa=X&biw=1024&bih=504&tbm=isch&tbnid=juz4w55SAwTqeM:&imgrefurl=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mona_Lisa.jpg&docid=pxouZBdmOimlMM&imgurl=&w=2835&h=4289&ei=hyhTUs6mK4nGiwKyloHQDQ&zoom=1&ved=1t:3588,r:0,s:0,i 0&iact=rc&page=1&tbnh=198&tbnw=147&start=0&ndsp=5&tx=89&ty=159

[Warren DeMontague]

1. Can I give an honest answer about what I think "Jesus's mother" looked like? Or will people get

offended?

Here's what I think she really looked like, objectively, historically:

[JDPriestly]

3. You didn't put in a picture. I would like to see what you think.

I personally think she would have looked more like the present Miss Israel. Maybe a little in between, but more like the current Miss Israel. Most Americans still don't realize this.

[Warren DeMontague]

5. That is what I think.

I think "Jesus" as an objective, historical entity, didn't exist. I believe what we call Christianity originated as a mystery cult similar to that of Mithras or Osiris; and while other Christian figures probably had historical existences; John the Baptist, for one, who may have served as one early template for the "historical" Jesus- I do not believe objective non-Biblical evidence supports the existence of Jesus. I believe it was a narrative added to the story of Christianity retroactively, around 100-200 CE, giving what had originally been a purely spiritual redemption rebirth figure, a historical storyline.

So that's why I left the picture blank.

[azurnoir]

2. yes we did last February in fact

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113433349

but how is Toki? Tiki? doing these days?

Has she spoken out on non-Jewish Ethiopians being deported wholesale? or Ethiopian women begging given Depo Prevara shots without knowing all the effects?

[JDPriestly]

4. Why don't you write her and ask? She would probably tell you.

[King_David]

6. I don't think she talked about the Keystone pipeline either

Or on astronomy or the effect of mcdonalds super sizing meals or mayor Bloombergs fight against soft drinks or the Miami Beach recycling program.

[King_David]

7. Where's this hostility coming from ?

All "Beauty Queens ' or just Jewish Ones or just Israeli ones ?

[azurnoir]

8. it is you that sees "hostility" myself I see something else

and of course you attempt to make out it's because she's Jewish or something, a totally expected cheap shot IMO

[King_David]

9. I never made it out to be anything

I asked because I was interested. I am a student of human mind and motivation. It interests me.

[azurnoir]

10. what would be the motivation of a country that's under fire because of it's treatment of Africans

to make an African woman it's beauty queen?

[King_David]

11. She's a Jewish Israeli women

Where do you get that she's African?


Anyway ....Does the government pick beauty queens and run beauty pageants ?..ha ha ha that's ridiculous ...ha ha ha ha ha

[azurnoir]

12. She was born in Ethiopia it's right in the OP

there fore she is African but also has Israeli citizenship because she's Jewish, if she weren't she'd likely be locked up in one of Israel's detention camps built for non-Jewish African refugees

[King_David]

13. I see because someone is born in Arica they are African?

The Palestinians born in Lebanon are?
The Palestinians born in Jordan are?
Etc etc etc

[azurnoir]

14. she is ethnically Ethiopian n/t

[King_David]

15. Israel is a safe haven for Jews

She is ethnically a Jew ...and was granted safe haven in the Jewish State....and because of this fact the Holocaust will never happen again....hence the term never again...because there is a A Jewish State....strong Jews since 1948.

[azurnoir]

16. yes I remember the fanfare when Israel 'recused' the Falasha

and when the international cameras went away Israel's governmental Rabbi's proclaimed they were not really Jews

[King_David]

17. Sigh

http://www.ethiopianisraelisproject.org

[azurnoir]

18. The Israel Project with a forward by Alan Dershowitz?

nothing like an unbiased source, eh?

[azurnoir]

20. doesn't excite me at all but why do you think I am concerned

about "all things Jewish"? I really would like a detailed in depth answer here, please

[King_David]

21. The book is a winner of a Gold Medal from the Independent Book Publishers Awards, 2007.

[azurnoir]

22. well that's nice but

why did you self delete your previous comment?