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Related: About this forumPolice blame 3 Bangkok blasts on Iranian
An Iranian man carrying explosives blew off his own legs and wounded four other people in two blasts Tuesday in Bangkok, Thai authorities said. A third blast occurred in a nearby house.
Security forces found more explosives in the assailant's rented house in the capital, but it was not known what targets they might have been meant for, Police Gen. Pansiri Prapawat said.
A day earlier, an Israeli diplomatic car was bombed in New Delhi, and Israel blamed Iran for that attack. Authorities did not immediately say if a link was suspected, but Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Yigal Palmor said in Jerusalem, "we can't rule out any possibility."
One of the blasts in Bangkok damaged a taxi, and a grenade detonated as the assailant carried it down a sidewalk outside a Thai school, said Col. Warawut Taweechaikarn, a senior police officer in the district.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57377188/police-blame-3-bangkok-blasts-on-iranian/
Color me not surprised. An Iranian national, no doubt with ties to Hezbollah, was a victim of premature detonation. The terrorist in Thailand, with ties to Hezbollah, was caught with 4 tons of urea fertilizer. Now this.
Who can continue to deny the recent terror attacks in Georgia and India do not have ties to Iran with a straight face? Who is gullible enough to believe that misdirection?
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Commit terror attacks against Iranians, and Iran is likely to retaliate. They are not going to just sit back and let you whack their scientists one by one.
DUIC
(167 posts)assassination of opposition party members is well within the wheel house of Iran itself. Blaming Israel is, at best, speculative.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)everyone knows what is up. This is an ongoing foreign intelligence operation, a highly visible and very successful one, and nobody is actually denying that.
DUIC
(167 posts)No credible evidence has been found to suggest that this was not just another example of the Iranian regime targeting opposition party members. Iran would gladly engage in false flag operations and blame Israel for their own wet works.
Now, in the Bangkok example, we have credible Persian DNA spread out across a half a city block as well as a previous attack by Hezbollah members. See the difference?
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)DUIC
(167 posts)That is the typical response from the Blame Israel Firsters. Israel is guilty until proven innocent. Logic, justice and reason are inverted on their head.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Sometimes it actually happens that Israel started it. If you want to argue that Israel is not involved in the assassinations that it is obviously involved in, then you are being dishonest. You could honestly argue that the assassinations are justified. You could present evidence that Israel was responding in kind to Iranian actions against Israeli citizens, but good luck with that. But claiming that the sophisticated attacks against Iranians were not the work of foreign intelligence services, namely those of either the US or Israels or both is nonsense.
DUIC
(167 posts)When you hear hoofbeats, look for horses not zebras.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)DUIC
(167 posts)We talk about the silliness of this forum in great detail here.
CanonRay
(14,104 posts)by goading Israel into an attack. Why eludes me...do they think the other Muslim states will join in? Not gonna happen.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)that is almost certainly Israels has nothing to do with this? Who is trying to start a war?
CanonRay
(14,104 posts)but it appears the Iranians are trying to goad them into doing something more overt. It's a stupid response, but they're not known for reacting rationally. As far as I know, the killing of Iranian scientists all occured on Iranian soil, and did not kill innocent bystanders in another country, wrong as wht they did is.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)You cannot go around assassinating people without repercussions. What would our reaction be if Iran started killing our scientists inside our country? Iran did not start this mess. They are reacting to what Israel and the US are doing, and what we are doing is deliberately escalating the violence.
Shaktimaan
(5,397 posts)No, they were the targets. And they were targeted for a legitimate reason too, to prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons, or at least to slow down the process. They may have been civilians, but their deaths had a clear military advantage.
Iran very much DID start this mess by insisting on progressing with their nuclear program, as it garners legitimate fears within the intl community that they are seeking nuclear weapons. Couple that with their constant refrain about destroying the Zionist regime and you have what appears to be a threat worth considering.
If Iran wasn't seeking both nukes and Israel's destruction then I don't think you'd see Mossad agents infiltrating Iran's borders.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)As such any mention of Israel is completely meaningless at present in this context.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Of course these are related. Of course Israel is assassinating Iranians. Of course Iran has retaliated. Why bother with the party line idiocy? The events are obvious to everyone paying attention.
DUIC
(167 posts)Too many coincidences to conclude that the events do not underscore Iranian state-sponsored terrorism or, at the minimum, Hezbollah-involvement.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)"state-sponsored terrorism" and that Iran is reacting in kind to the acts we initiated.
If we are not going to discuss these events honestly there is no point to the discussion.
holdencaufield
(2,927 posts)... to stop discussing this "silly" topic any time.
Your input will be missed but, somehow, we're carry on.
DUIC
(167 posts)The bombs that exploded in Bangkok yesterday were intended for "foreign nationals" in Thailand, national police chief Priewpan Damapong said.
He did not give further details but said only that the targets were not Thais.
The blasts injured five people including a bomb suspect carrying an Iranian passport who blew off his own legs.
Another Iranian suspect was arrested at Suvarnabhumi airport hours after the incident as he was about to leave for Malaysia. He is one of three suspects thought to be involved.
http://www.bangkokpost.com/learning/learning-from-news/279939/bomb-targets-not-thai-says-police-chief
Given that the bomber was in the embassy district, the police chief is a master of the obvious.
Mosby
(16,319 posts)BANGKOK -- An Iranian woman wanted over a failed bomb plot targeting Israeli diplomats in Bangkok has fled to Tehran, Thai authorities said Thursday.
Leila Rohani -- the fourth suspect wanted in connection with the series of blasts Tuesday -- is accused of arranging a home in Bangkok for the three other suspects to use as a base.
Thailand's immigration police commissioner Wiboon Bangtamai said Rohani had fled Thailand and was now in Tehran, according to Thai newspaper The Nation.
"We could not ask Iran to extradite her to Thailand as both countries have not had the extradition treaty," he said.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/iranian_woman_wanted_over_bangkok_DdCLXyhvi3hIE7dwsPEUhN
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)BTW did that screen capture of her come from your link?
DUIC
(167 posts)Malaysian authorities arrested a third Iranian suspect wanted over a failed bomb plot targeting Israeli diplomats in Bangkok after he fled to Malaysia.
The suspect, identified as 27-year-old Masoud Sedaghatzadeh, left Bangkok for Kuala Lumpur on Tuesday afternoon, according to deputy police chief Pol Gen Pansiri, cited by Thai newspaper The Nation.
A senior Thai security official said Sedaghatzadeh was arrested in Kuala Lumpur about 3:00pm local time Wednesday. He reportedly was scheduled to board a flight to Tehran on Wednesday.
Suspect Mohammad Hazaei was arrested at Suvarnabhumi Airport on Tuesday as he tried to escape to Malaysia.
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/third_iranian_bomb_plot_suspect_TvuUVyNndr03P3EslKfxCP#ixzz1maDyez00