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http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/152856#.Tz-A7PGo_xFTwo Jews are recovering from a near lynch attempt, after Arabs threw rocks at their car as they were driving in Jerusalem.
By Elad Benari
First Publish: 2/17/2012, 12:02 AM
Two civilian employees of the Defense Ministry are recovering from a near lynch attempt on Monday.
The two were traveling to Mount Scopus in Jerusalem when they accidentally made a wrong turn and ended up stuck in a traffic jam between two Arab cars. A crowd of Arab youths then showed up and began throwing rocks at them.
At one point the rock throwers, some of whom were students from a nearby school, approached the vehicle and slammed a large stone into the windshield. The rock struck the driver, Yehuda Attias, in the head. Attias, who was all bloody, hit the gas and the two Israelis then fled toward a nearby hotel. They called security and rescue forces and were taken to the hospital. Attias was since hospitalized several times because of the severe head injuries.
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alphafemale
(18,497 posts)That is justification to take over another 3 square miles, and slaughter at least 50 Palestinian children.
pelsar
(12,283 posts)meaning for every israeli hurt, the cost is 100 Palestinians to be killed according to the RIDK (ratio of death-kills) from the defense industry.
look it up in google for the actual table...children obviously are worth 2 adults in the notes beneath the table.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)At least half of the Palestinian people I've ever met were.... wait....Christian!
Certainly adds a dimension not shared on most news feeds.
King_David
(14,851 posts)alphafemale
(18,497 posts)Because Palestinians are portrayed as crazed Muslims.
Because people don't take the the time to educate themselves about the issue.
Shaktimaan
(5,397 posts)they ARE almost all Muslims though. Why is it weird to portray them that way? Israeli's are usually portrayed as Jewish.
Igel
(35,309 posts)In the last 20-30 years, however, many Xian Palestinians emigrated. The emigration picked up during the intifadas and at other times. When political Islam gained adherents in the Arab world it's not like the Palestinians were suddenly "un-Arab." The PA focuses on Islam, not Xians; the push for Jerusalem isn't because of any relevance to Xians. Any sop thrown towards Xians is mostly for foreign consumption.
It's difficult to gauge the extent to which the exodus is from Israeli or Palestinian practices and pressures because minority communities often know their place and are complicit in and have internalized their own oppression. (In the US, blacks knew not to be "uppity"; some were tarred with the epithet "Uncle Toms". It's not unique to any ethnicity or territory. Copts have long kept silent, and even now if they're persecuted in Egypt most will say it's a small minority of Muslims who persecute them and try to give the Muslim majority a way to save face. Outspoken Copts until recently were a small minority--and even now, older Copts still make excuses for being persecuted and try to give their persecutors every opportunity to stop risk free and without penalty.)
Harmony Blue
(3,978 posts)because that is not a near lynching. Floridians know what is a lynching is for example. I also take issue with calling it nearly, as they were clearly violently attacked. The article head line should have written maybe nearly killed instead? I know that type of headline may cause disagreement, but then I again I think that would be more accurate IMO.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)Why are those Palestinians so Angry!
pelsar
(12,283 posts)shucks killing people out of anger and frustration certainly is a good legitment way of showing ones anger...at least we agree upon that....
the kassams out of gaza certainly are justified as are the katushas out of lebanon....where are the good old days of suicide bombings.....now those were good righteous expressions of anger!
Igel
(35,309 posts)Originally summary justice.
Later, "mob" was added to the semantics. I couldn't say that a solitary judge ordered a sole executioner to "lynch" anybody. The verb's argument structure's changed since 1830. (It'll probably change more before the word vanishes.)
In the American South in the early 20th century lynching seems to have become lexically restricted to "summary execution by hanging", with some sort of public humiliation and abuse by a mob being required. Come to think of it, I can't think of any use of that word by an American black that doesnt' have that meaning, as well. Then again, most American black communities are built on immigration from the South after the word acquired the "by hanging" restriction.
By the time of that lexical change where I grew up was no longer "American South" so I don't require that the execution be by hanging when I use the word, even though I understand that if the lynching is in the US it's probably going to involve hanging (and, in the South, would certainly have involved hanging). It wasn't even clear to me until I was in my early 30s and become much more sensitive to fine-grained dialectal differences in word meanings in my native language that lynchings of blacks historically had to end in hangings.
However, lynching in the ME usually involves stoning and automatically includes a mob and public abuse/humiliation. These days it also includes summary public judgment, although instead of it being individual (or ostensibly individual) it's at the group level. Still, there's this odd belief among many Americans that throwing stones is harmless child's play and certainly couldn't actually hurt anyone. They don't connect "throwing stones" to the stoning to death of a young Iranian woman. I don't know what Xians think when they read of Jesus' stopping the stoning of a woman caught in adultery--perhaps he saved her from a really bad bruise?
oberliner
(58,724 posts)They post headlines like this all the time. I really wish people wouldn't use them as a source here.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)More mob related violent death than hanging as we in the US think of it.
Remember the Ramallah lynching back in 2000?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Ramallah_lynching
Driving while Israelli.