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azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 12:42 PM Dec 2013

Israeli government halts controversial plan to resettle 30,000 Bedouin

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's government has decided to drop the current draft of a controversial bill to resettle nearly 30,000 Bedouin living in the Negev into already recognized villages, the former minister overseeing the plan said on Thursday.


He also accused critics of the plan of exploiting the proposal for their own benefit. "Right, left, Arabs and Jews joined hands – while exploiting the plight of many Bedouin – to heat things up for political gain," he said. "We've done our best, but sometimes you need to recognize reality."

During the drafting of the legislation, Begin said, more than 1,000 Bedouin were heard and changes were introduced in the bill accordingly. "I myself met with 600 of them… We didn't just hear them out, we listened to them attentively," he said, adding that some viewed his willingness to engage with the Bedouin community as excessive.

The possibility of the bill being shelved emerged three days ago, after Begin denied claims that community leaders had accepted the proposal – a key defense used by the government in advancing the plan.

Begin said that contrary to reports, he had never approached the Bedouin with the plan and thus did not receive their approval on the matter.


http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/1.563200

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Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
1. Incredible that he can accuse anyone of exploitation and expect anyone to believe
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 03:14 PM
Dec 2013

his horse shit.

Corrected for him: "We've done our best,( to get away with it) but sometimes you need to recognize reality."


K&R

Israeli

(4,154 posts)
2. one controversy down azurnoir....
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 04:24 PM
Dec 2013

for the meantime ....they wont give up about the Bedouin tho .

next controversy about to hit centre stage is this :

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4464560,00.html

memories of my first run in with shira

shaayecanaan

(6,068 posts)
3. before someone starts screaming "blood libel"
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 06:38 PM
Dec 2013

I should probably point out that a lot if people are ineligible to give blood on the basis of having lived in Africa. I wasn't able to give blood myself in the UK as a result of this.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
5. Also people from the UK can't give blood in Israel
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 06:50 PM
Dec 2013

Anyone who lived in Britain for more than six months between 1980 and 1996 can’t donate blood in Israel due to mad cow disease concerns.

Hopefully, with this in mind, no one will attempt to exploit any kind of racism card for political ends with respect to the Ethiopian born MK.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
9. Well, according to the article, that wasn't the reason...
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 10:38 PM
Dec 2013
Members of the Ethiopian community were bewildered and outraged after Knesset Member Pnina Tamano-Shata was refused a blood donation on the grounds she had " the special kind of Jewish-Ethiopian blood."


What on earth could that mean?

shaayecanaan

(6,068 posts)
10. Its a ploy by Yesh Atid
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 11:30 PM
Dec 2013

to fluff their liberal credentials and to try and persuade people that they aren't the underachieving dropkicks that they so clearly are. Yesh Atid has been running the Health Ministry for the last two years and has been flagging changes to the blood donation rules for at least that long:-

http://blogs.forward.com/forward-thinking/189169/israels-blood-donation-rules-are-becoming-a-nation/

But no one gives you any credit for changing a rule if no one is paying any attention. Therefore, drum up the controversy first, and then take credit for such swift and decisive action in the wake thereof, notwithstanding that the change was already in the pipeline.

The blood guidelines aren't set in legislation, they are merely policy. Tamano-Shata's own party could have changed the rules long ago, but they have decided to milk it.

Given Yesh Atid's regressive standards on anything Arab or settlement-related, I would suggest giving this faux-outrage show the short shrift it so clearly deserves.

Yesh Atid is currently polling 12 seats, down from 19. A lot of that support has leaked back to Labour and Meretz. At the last election Tamano-Shata was at 14 on the party list, meaning that barring a major revival of their fortunes she is out of there. Self-preservation is a powerful thing.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
4. Had a feeling this would be the next one!
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 06:47 PM
Dec 2013

Cool how the anti-hasbarists have a ready-made manufactured controversy lined up and ready to go!

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
6. It's an industry. Flinging shit is what they do....
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 08:44 PM
Dec 2013

Same as Islamophobes and anti-Arab racists who go overboard 24-7-365.

Same as Stormfronters who can't find anything positive to say about Blacks.

What's disturbing is that so many "progressives" are being sucked into this same mentality WRT Jews. A recent German study shows a far higher percentage of educated people hold racist views vs. Jews than do extreme rightwing nutters....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/113453276#post24

And people wonder how 70 years ago an advanced progressive and enlightened Germany went to shit.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
8. Wow. Without even a smidge of self-aware irony...
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 10:34 PM
Dec 2013
And people wonder how 70 years ago an advanced progressive and enlightened Germany went to shit.


What people would these be? 'Cause it's really not a mystery to anyone who's ever read a book on the subject.
 

shira

(30,109 posts)
16. In the 19th century, Germany was way ahead of its European neighbors....
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 07:10 AM
Dec 2013

...far more englightened and progressive.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
14. with regards to what happened in Germany in the period from 1918 to 1933 look up World War 1
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 02:20 AM
Dec 2013

establish who won and who lost-then move right along to the Treaty of Versailles and get a clue as to what happened hint-Germany went from being 'progressive and enlightened in an early 20th century way to impoverished hopeless destitute -figure out how that happened and get back to us -okay

Response to oberliner (Reply #4)

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
12. Don't worry. The Government will find a nice and tidy way of removing
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 12:32 AM
Dec 2013

the Bedouin in due time.

And like clockwork, some knob-headed xionista will come along to tell us how the Bedouin can simply buy back a piece of their own land if they really want to live there...in the midst of a new "Israeli" settlement.
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