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Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 12:14 AM Jul 2014

I wonder why there's no problem in the West Bank right now?

You think it just might have something to do with HAMAS? Maybe? Just a little bit?

I mean, if Israel is so into "genocide", why aren't they bombing the West Bank too?

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I wonder why there's no problem in the West Bank right now? (Original Post) Bonobo Jul 2014 OP
it's not genocide, but it's not true there is "no problem" in the west bank JI7 Jul 2014 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Jul 2014 #2
Weird that they left Gaza then, huh. Bonobo Jul 2014 #5
Crickets. nt COLGATE4 Jul 2014 #10
cause the palestinians in the west bank don't want to be blown to bits by the Israelis? nt msongs Jul 2014 #3
Welcome to I/P bonobo Scootaloo Jul 2014 #4
I did not know this. My apologies. nt Bonobo Jul 2014 #6
To address your point however... Scootaloo Jul 2014 #7
Did you bother to think before you posted? BillZBubb Jul 2014 #8
Define "no problem" if you mean IDF isn't actively bombing azurnoir Jul 2014 #9

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Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
5. Weird that they left Gaza then, huh.
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 12:31 AM
Jul 2014

Not to mention they want all of the West Bank too, right? So wouldn't that mean they would be bombing the West Bank too?

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
4. Welcome to I/P bonobo
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 12:31 AM
Jul 2014
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Scootaloo

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7. To address your point however...
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 12:45 AM
Jul 2014

The english language isn't exactly replete with words for "pointless mass killing" that aren't either threadbare and trite ("massacre&quot or really, really big ("Genocide&quot . There's also the subtext of, say, between those two terms - a massacre is any killing of a number of people, while "genocide" carries definite political and social connotations beyond just the killing. It's a frustrating gap in the language.

No, "Genocide' isn't really the right word. but there just aren't a lot of words to fall back on, and discussions on the topic tend to remind me of the 2004 presidential debates - "Nuance? WTF is nuance?!"

There's the term "democide" which fits, but is sort of a wobbly word - it can mean a lot of things and covers a lot of topics - Jim Crow was democide, but so was the Holocaust, and if you don't specify where you're going with the term - which can be difficult when, hello, the language doesn't support doing so! - it can go haywire.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
8. Did you bother to think before you posted?
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 12:53 AM
Jul 2014

Apparently not. Israel's strategy is gradualism--the gradual ethnic cleansing of the West Bank (and Gaza if feasible). They aren't just going to start killing Palestinians en masse throughout the occupied land. They need a pretext. This time Hamas gave them one.

Don't worry, they'll get to the West Bank in due time.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
9. Define "no problem" if you mean IDF isn't actively bombing
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 02:09 AM
Jul 2014

could be because there are 500,000 Israeli citizens living there. Just about anything else is up for grabs there was recently Operation Brothers Keeper in which Israel used the pretext of first searching for the missing teenagers and then routing out Hamas because they according Bibi were responsible for the kidnapping, turns out they knew differently all along but who's counting to search (vandalize) the homes of hundreds of Palestinians, shoot and kill at least 5 Palestinians

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