Israel/Palestine
Related: About this forumI wonder why there's no problem in the West Bank right now?
You think it just might have something to do with HAMAS? Maybe? Just a little bit?
I mean, if Israel is so into "genocide", why aren't they bombing the West Bank too?
JI7
(89,260 posts)Response to Bonobo (Original post)
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Bonobo
(29,257 posts)Not to mention they want all of the West Bank too, right? So wouldn't that mean they would be bombing the West Bank too?
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(14,732 posts)msongs
(67,432 posts)Scootaloo
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Bonobo
(29,257 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)The english language isn't exactly replete with words for "pointless mass killing" that aren't either threadbare and trite ("massacre" or really, really big ("Genocide" . There's also the subtext of, say, between those two terms - a massacre is any killing of a number of people, while "genocide" carries definite political and social connotations beyond just the killing. It's a frustrating gap in the language.
No, "Genocide' isn't really the right word. but there just aren't a lot of words to fall back on, and discussions on the topic tend to remind me of the 2004 presidential debates - "Nuance? WTF is nuance?!"
There's the term "democide" which fits, but is sort of a wobbly word - it can mean a lot of things and covers a lot of topics - Jim Crow was democide, but so was the Holocaust, and if you don't specify where you're going with the term - which can be difficult when, hello, the language doesn't support doing so! - it can go haywire.
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)Apparently not. Israel's strategy is gradualism--the gradual ethnic cleansing of the West Bank (and Gaza if feasible). They aren't just going to start killing Palestinians en masse throughout the occupied land. They need a pretext. This time Hamas gave them one.
Don't worry, they'll get to the West Bank in due time.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)could be because there are 500,000 Israeli citizens living there. Just about anything else is up for grabs there was recently Operation Brothers Keeper in which Israel used the pretext of first searching for the missing teenagers and then routing out Hamas because they according Bibi were responsible for the kidnapping, turns out they knew differently all along but who's counting to search (vandalize) the homes of hundreds of Palestinians, shoot and kill at least 5 Palestinians