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Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 09:42 AM Aug 2014

Abbas to hold emergency meeting on Gaza

RAMALLAH (Ma'an) -- President Abbas will hold an emergency meeting in Ramallah Tuesday evening to discuss initiatives to end Israel's war on Gaza, sources told Ma'an.

The emergency meeting will take place at 7 p.m. and Abbas will discuss his latest visits to Qatar and Cairo.

It is expected that the president will announce a political initiative to demand that the international community intervene in the ongoing Israeli assault on Gaza, including issuing a timetable for Israel withdrawing from the occupied Palestinian territories.

Efforts are still ongoing to achieve a ceasefire proposal presented by Egypt, which is likely similar to previous initiatives but with minor changes, a Palestinian source said.

http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=723407
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Abbas to hold emergency meeting on Gaza (Original Post) Jefferson23 Aug 2014 OP
Israeli forces detain 12 PFLP leaders in West Bank Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #1
Palestinians protest closure of Hebron checkpoint Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #2
Hamas: 'The talks have finished, we've reached an agreement' Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #3
Palestinian sources: Gaza cease-fire to be announced on Tuesday evening Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #4
We will see. bemildred Aug 2014 #5
Hope so. n/t Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #6
Well, it can't go on. bemildred Aug 2014 #7
I agree, and it is that surface save face win he wants that worries me..what will it need to Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #8
It's all over the news now. nt bemildred Aug 2014 #13
Yea, cease fire to be announced. Israel still no comment: Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #15
You called it yesterday..here it is: Israel OKs truce, said to start at 7; Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #17
Yep. bemildred Aug 2014 #18
Good call, bemildred. The worst of the killing is hopefully behind them. n/t Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #20
Prediction is always a risky game, but sometimes you get lucky. bemildred Aug 2014 #21
Yea, the political war will be back, like never before in this conflicts history, I think. n/t Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #22
A real donnybrook, I expect. bemildred Aug 2014 #23
Yes, Deif for one. If he is alive he'll be trotted out when they feel his presence will give Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #24
Hamas' Meshaal says armed wing commander 'fine' after failed assassination attempt bemildred Aug 2014 #35
And: Gaza ceasefire to begin at 1600 GMT: Palestinian official bemildred Aug 2014 #19
Do they really think the international community is getting in the middle of that mess? hack89 Aug 2014 #9
They're already involved, up to their ears. n/t Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #10
iSIS is bad news for Hamas hack89 Aug 2014 #11
ISIS is not Hamas, that is Bibi spreading propaganda to justify what he did in Gaza. n/t Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #12
Not even the Arab world agrees with you hack89 Aug 2014 #25
Arab leaders one would hope you could distinguish from their citizens. That has nothing to do with Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #26
That is unfortunate hack89 Aug 2014 #28
Yea, well tell that to Bibi as Hamas was prepared to join the unity agreement and they Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #29
Time will tell hack89 Aug 2014 #32
Of course, it is far from over but the cease fire is here. n/t Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #33
ah yes nice to see who Hamas was most like was finally settled on azurnoir Aug 2014 #27
Yes, dumbass Bibi. He thinks this will help him, somehow or other. n/t Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #30
Yes the channel changed. nt King_David Aug 2014 #34
Once 'Best in the West', Israel's economy shows cracks bemildred Aug 2014 #14
snip* Hamas' deputy leader in Cairo, Moussa Abu Marzouk Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #16
LIVE UPDATES: Despite cease-fire announcement, rocket sirens sound in south Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #31

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
1. Israeli forces detain 12 PFLP leaders in West Bank
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 09:46 AM
Aug 2014
NABLUS (Ma'an) -- Israeli forces detained 12 leaders from the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine overnight Monday, sources in the group told Ma'an.

Ahmad al-Haj Muhammad Abu al-Nimr and Zahi Khatatba were detained in the Nablus town of Furik, while Kamal Ibrahim Abu Tharifa, Youssef Abd al-Haq Abu Shaddad and Moussa Salama were arrested in Nablus.

Amjad Hamayil, 37, was arrested from his house in Beta during a raid.

In Jenin, Israeli forces detained Fadaa al-Zugheibi, Muhammad al-Zugheibi, Abdullah al-Afif, Alam Sami Masad and Jaafar Abu Salah.

http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=723342

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
2. Palestinians protest closure of Hebron checkpoint
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 09:53 AM
Aug 2014
HEBRON (Ma'an) -- Dozens of Palestinians demonstrated in Hebron's Old City on Tuesday to protest the closure of a military checkpoint by Israeli forces, witnesses said, after it was burned down by a firebomb.

A sit-in protest was held in front of a checkpoint in al-Shuhada street in the city, which has been closed since Friday.

Israeli forces reportedly told Palestinian residents to "look for another way to cross the street," locals said.

The checkpoint is the only access point for students of the Qurtuba school.

Israelis soldiers fired stun grenades at protesters to disperse them.

http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=723388

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
3. Hamas: 'The talks have finished, we've reached an agreement'
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 10:00 AM
Aug 2014
Senior Hamas official Mousa Abu Marzook said Tuesday afternoon that, "The talks have finished, we've reached an agreement."

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4564261,00.html

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
4. Palestinian sources: Gaza cease-fire to be announced on Tuesday evening
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 10:04 AM
Aug 2014
Amid rocket fire and IDF strikes on Operation Protective Edge's 50th day, Hamas leader Haniyeh says, "We are approaching a diplomatic understanding that addresses the needs of our people."

snip* Khaled al-Batsh, Islamic Jihad’s representative to the Cairo cease-fire talks, said the Palestinian delegation was awaiting Israel’s response to the proposal, which was “acceptable in principle.”

Al Hayat quoted a senior Palestinian Islamic Jihad leader as telling the paper that the group wanted the agreement in order to “stop the brutal aggression” and avoid the deaths of Palestinian children, adding that the Israelis had “targeted civilians to put pressure on the resistance.”

The official said Israel was “eager to reach an agreement” despite its “arrogance,” noting that senior Israeli officials had been involved in indirect talks. He added that the Egyptian proposal would strengthen the role of the Palestinian Authority in Gaza, including by assisting in supervision of the Rafah crossing. He added that Israel had “failed to achieve its goals,” which were to “disarm the resistance and prevent tunnel construction.”

http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Palestinian-sources-Gaza-cease-fire-to-be-announced-on-Tuesday-evening-372386

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
5. We will see.
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 10:18 AM
Aug 2014

Bound to run out of things to bomb soon.

The apparent short time frame means we won't have to wait long.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
7. Well, it can't go on.
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 10:27 AM
Aug 2014

You have to understand the problem, Hamas is militarily a pipsqueak, and yet they have dragged the IDF (willingly to begin with it is true) into one of the longest wars in Israeli history, with substantial losses, and other costs foreign and domestic, and no end in sight. It's just not the image that "deterrence" demands for the end of this thing. The "Six Day War" this is not. And the longer that goes on, the worse it gets. Bibi is still looking for something he can call a win, and yet it has to end.

There are some amazingly lunatic opinions being bandied about over this thing too, and not just on the radical fringes.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
8. I agree, and it is that surface save face win he wants that worries me..what will it need to
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 10:31 AM
Aug 2014

look like to satisfy Bibi. His poll numbers just dropped again too.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
15. Yea, cease fire to be announced. Israel still no comment:
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 11:13 AM
Aug 2014

A Hamas spokesman tells Fox News that an extended cease-fire has been reached with Israel and both sides are awaiting an announcement from Egypt, which helped push for a deal.

A senior Hamas official who spoke to The Associated Press said the deal calls for an "open-ended" cease-fire, and an Israeli agreement to ease its blockade of Gaza to allow relief supplies and construction materials into the war-battered territory.

Talks on deeper issues, such as Hamas' demand to reopen Gaza's airport and seaport, would begin in a month.

The official said Egypt planned an announcement later Tuesday. He spoke on condition of anonymity pending the announcement. There was no immediate Israeli comment.

If the terms of the cease-fire are confirmed, it would effectively mean Hamas in the end settled for terms that are similar to those that ended more than a week of fighting with Israel in 2012.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/08/26/israel-targets-gaza-high-rises-as-egypt-pushes-for-new-talks/

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
17. You called it yesterday..here it is: Israel OKs truce, said to start at 7;
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 11:52 AM
Aug 2014

Israeli killed in mortar strike

Hamas claims ‘victory’; Abbas to announce ceasefire, statehood initiative later Tuesday, but Israel yet to confirm deal; rockets hits Ashdod preschool, Ashkelon house; six said killed in Gaza strikes

By Ricky Ben-David, Haviv Rettig Gur and Yifa Yaakov August 26, 2014, 12:35 am Updated: August 26, 2014, 6:34 pm

Read more: Israel OKs truce, said to start at 7; Israeli killed in mortar strike | The Times of Israel http://www.timesofisrael.com/day-50-hamas-confirms-talk-of-new-truce-rockets-from-lebanon-fired-at-galilee-idf-hits-back/#ixzz3BVvcWDa5
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bemildred

(90,061 posts)
21. Prediction is always a risky game, but sometimes you get lucky.
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 12:09 PM
Aug 2014

The war was already well past its sell-by date. Bibi has to cut his losses at some point.

But yeah, less killing will be good for everybody.

Now the investigations and recriminations can begin. Much more information should start coming out.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
23. A real donnybrook, I expect.
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 12:39 PM
Aug 2014

Particularly on the Israeli side.

Perhaps we will hear what happened to Deif.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
24. Yes, Deif for one. If he is alive he'll be trotted out when they feel his presence will give
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 12:55 PM
Aug 2014

maximum impact to their cause. Dead, he is still a martyr and one who Israel was only able to kill
while killing his wife and baby...something like that I expect.

It is the investigation wars I am most interested in watching too, and Abbas and all
the factions..will they work together and utilize their very real legal strengths for
the good of future generations of Palestinians. They have a great deal to work with,
so we'll see.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
35. Hamas' Meshaal says armed wing commander 'fine' after failed assassination attempt
Thu Aug 28, 2014, 01:59 PM
Aug 2014

DOHA - Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal described the condition of the group's military commander Mohammed Deif as "fine", after what it terms an Israeli assassination attempt on him earlier this month.

Hamas' military wing, the Izz-el-Din al-Qassam Brigades, had said at the time that Israel had missed its target and that Deif's wife and seven-month-old son were killed in the attack.

Deif was widely believed to be masterminding the Islamist group's military campaign from underground bunkers.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4565401,00.html

hack89

(39,171 posts)
9. Do they really think the international community is getting in the middle of that mess?
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 10:46 AM
Aug 2014

The map of the ME is being rewritten by ISIS as we speak with the world helplessly wringing their hands. They don't need another reason to look impotent.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
11. iSIS is bad news for Hamas
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 10:54 AM
Aug 2014

It is hard to support one fundamentalist terrorist group and fight another. Until the PA supercedes Hamas, it is hard to see a lot of international support. Abbas is using that perception to offer himself as the reasonable Palestinian.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
25. Not even the Arab world agrees with you
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 12:57 PM
Aug 2014

Hence their muted response to the war in Gaza. Hamas will go on the back burner until ISIS is sorted out. The entire war started over Hamas trying to break out of their perceived isolation. The overthrow of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt was a crushing blow as now they are surrounded by neighbors hostile to their goals.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
26. Arab leaders one would hope you could distinguish from their citizens. That has nothing to do with
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 01:01 PM
Aug 2014

what I said, Hamas is not ISIS, period. Maybe you should focus on the support Hamas has among
their own people..thanks to Bibi, it has grown.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
28. That is unfortunate
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 01:09 PM
Aug 2014

History is replete with the suffering of countries as they follow bad leaders. Widespread support does not automatically convey legitimacy or moral standing. Sometimes it is nothing more than the poor choice by a desperate people. And it often has an unhappy ending.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
29. Yea, well tell that to Bibi as Hamas was prepared to join the unity agreement and they
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 01:32 PM
Aug 2014

were at a low of support and agreed to have elections at the time of 6 months going forward. You kill thousands of
people they tend to revert back to who fights for them on their behalf.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
27. ah yes nice to see who Hamas was most like was finally settled on
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 01:01 PM
Aug 2014

the initial feelers sent out on this were that Hamas was just like Boku Haram or more like lSIS, I guess the Boku Haram thing didn't take wing or it was decided that they are all Arabs would go down more easily than they are all Muslims
in any event that Hamas and ISIS are the same is pure packaged BS for a willing and/or gullible audience

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
14. Once 'Best in the West', Israel's economy shows cracks
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 11:09 AM
Aug 2014

JERUSALEM, Aug 26 (Reuters) - For more than a decade, Israel's high-tech-fuelled economy has weathered the global financial crisis and several military conflicts with little impact on growth or the free flow of foreign investment.

But its strong run, which led former finance minister Yuval Steinitz to coin its justifiably upbeat tag as the 'Best in the West', may be coming to an abrupt end, with the era of sustainable high growth rates consigned to history.

The war against Hamas in Gaza, which ran into a 50th day on Tuesday, has taken a heavy toll, hitting tourism, slowing consumer spending as people stay indoors and denting manufacturing, especially in plants close to Gaza.

Even before the conflict began on July 8, growth was weakening. A preliminary estimate showed the economy grew an annualised 1.7 percent in the second quarter, down from 2.8 percent in the first, while unemployment inched above 6 percent from 5.7 percent in late 2013.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/08/26/israel-economy-idUKL5N0QW1Q920140826

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
16. snip* Hamas' deputy leader in Cairo, Moussa Abu Marzouk
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 11:26 AM
Aug 2014

said, according to Haaretz. "We are waiting for an official announcement to set the final hour and announce a cease-fire and an end to Israeli aggression."

Ziad Nakhala, a senior official in Islamic Jihad, another faction fighting in Gaza, told the Associated Press the truce calls for an "open-ended" cease-fire, and an Israeli agreement to ease its blockade.

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas will make the official announcement at noon ET Tuesday, the Palestinian Ma'an News Agency reported.

A senior Hamas official, speaking on condition of anonymity pending the official announcement, confirmed the terms to the AP.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/08/26/israel-hamas-gaza-cease-fire/14613107/

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
31. LIVE UPDATES: Despite cease-fire announcement, rocket sirens sound in south
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 02:00 PM
Aug 2014
Six Palestinians killed in IDF strikes on Gaza since midnight; southern Israel under heavy fire; Ashkelon building, yard of Ashdod kindergarten struck directly; rapid barrage fired at communities on Gaza border.

By Haaretz | Aug. 26, 2014 | 8:50 PM

On the 50th day of the Gaza operation, Israel and the Palestinians agreed to an Egyptian cease-fire proposal. However, rocket sirens continued to sound in Israel's south after 7 P.M., when the cease-fire was said to go into effect.

Earlier, a mortar shell fired from Gaza killed one Israeli and wounded six others in a town on the Gaza border, raising the Israeli death toll since the operation began to 69. The Israeli army continued to attack in Gaza, striking over 40 targets since midnight and killing over six Palestinian across the Strip. The Palestinian death toll has surpassed 2,100.


Latest updates Tuesday:

8:57 P.M. The United States cautiously welcomes the latest Israeli-Palestinian ceasefire and urges both sides to comply with the terms of the agreement, the State Department said on Tuesday.

"We call on all parties to fully and completely comply with its terms, and hope very much that the ceasefire will prove to be durable and sustainable," State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki told reporters at a daily briefing.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.612468
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