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oberliner

(58,724 posts)
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 05:14 AM Nov 2014

Series of blasts strike Fatah targets in Gaza: officials

A series of small explosions targeted the homes and vehicles of officials from President Mahmoud Abbas's Fatah movement in the Gaza Strip on Friday, members of the party and witnesses said, causing minor damage but no injuries.

The explosions came days ahead of the 10th anniversary of the death of former Palestinian president and Fatah leader Yasser Arafat, a memorial that has lead to tensions between Fatah and Hamas, the Islamist group that dominates Gaza.

Senior Fatah official Abdallah Abu Samhadana said the Nov. 11 commemoration would go ahead despite the explosions, one of which targeted the wooden stage where the event is to be held.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/11/07/us-mideast-gaza-palestinians-idUSKBN0IR0PB20141107

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Series of blasts strike Fatah targets in Gaza: officials (Original Post) oberliner Nov 2014 OP
the Hamas movement in a statement condemned the incident, calling it a "criminal act." azurnoir Nov 2014 #1
Hamas Prevents Two Fatah Leaders From Entering Gaza (2010) oberliner Nov 2014 #2
Criminal act? King_David Nov 2014 #3
Are terrorist acts not criminal acts, Dave? Scootaloo Nov 2014 #4
Hamas is involved , King_David Nov 2014 #5
Sure it's not the reds, general? Scootaloo Nov 2014 #6
If I'm so vociferous I'm sure you can link it up King_David Nov 2014 #7
I's six in the morning and I'm lazy Scootaloo Nov 2014 #8
Point proven King_David Nov 2014 #9
Do you not think Fatah is a terrorist organization Dave/ Scootaloo Nov 2014 #10
You have a lot of "mishaps "as you call it King_David Nov 2014 #11
I'm asking for your opinion, Dave. Let's clear it up. Scootaloo Nov 2014 #12
You were caught attributing an opinion to myself King_David Nov 2014 #13
I'm trying to find out what your opinion is, actually Scootaloo Nov 2014 #14
You should express your opinions here King_David Nov 2014 #16
No answer, huh? Scootaloo Nov 2014 #18
Yes you express your opinions and don't attribute King_David Nov 2014 #20
Didn't even read your reply n/t Scootaloo Nov 2014 #21
You need a course in logic... shira Nov 2014 #17
But wouldn't one support the action itself? Scootaloo Nov 2014 #19
PA security forces point finger at Hamas for Gaza blasts oberliner Nov 2014 #15
Hamas condemns Fatah for accusations of Gaza blasts responsibility Jefferson23 Nov 2014 #22
kick n/t azurnoir Nov 2014 #23

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
1. the Hamas movement in a statement condemned the incident, calling it a "criminal act."
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 05:23 AM
Nov 2014

Fatah spokesman Usama al-Qawasmi said that the explosions targeted the homes of Gaza Governor Abdullah al-Efranji, Fatah MP Faisal Abu Shahla, Revolutionary Council member Abu Juda al-Nahhal, Fatah spokesman Fayiz Abu Aita, and Fatah leaders Abd al-Rahman Hamad, Abd al-Jawad Ziyada, Sharif Abu Watfeh, Jamal Obeid, and Ziyad Matar.

Al-Qawasmi said the attacks "aimed to sabotage the commemoration of the anniversary of Arafat's death."

He and Fatah Central Committee member Hussein al-Sheikh blamed Hamas for the attacks.

But the Hamas movement in a statement condemned the incident, calling it a "criminal act."

It called upon security services in Gaza to investigate into the attacks and bring those responsible for it to justice.

http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=738248

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
2. Hamas Prevents Two Fatah Leaders From Entering Gaza (2010)
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 06:29 AM
Nov 2014

Abdullah al-Efranji, member of Fatah’s Central Committee, stated that as he and Rawhi Fattouh passed through the Israeli terminal and headed to the Palestinian side in Gaza, a number of security officers apologized to them and said that they have higher orders to prevent them from entering the Gaza Strip.

Al-Efranji added that President Abbas instructed them to hold talks with Hamas and several other factions in order to check on the situation of the residents in Gaza, and to try to prepare the atmosphere for reconciliation talks.

The visit was supposed to be held two weeks ago but was postponed due to internal Palestinian talks in Damascus.

Al-Efranji stated that Sunday’s incident does not serve the Palestinian national interests, and that Fatah is interested in restoring internal Palestinian unity.

“This visit was not planned as an alternative to Cairo talks”, he said. “It is a visit meant to boost the talks and to try to create a momentum for reconciliation and unity”.

Meanwhile, the Interior Ministry in Gaza held Fatah responsible for what it called “massacres committed by Fatah’s security forces against Hamas members in the West Bank”.

http://www.imemc.org/index.php/60036?redirect=article/60036

Abdullah al-Efranji was one of the people targeted in this attack.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
6. Sure it's not the reds, general?
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 09:18 AM
Nov 2014

Last edited Fri Nov 7, 2014, 10:00 AM - Edit history (2)

Check under your bed!

Also, given that you've been quite vociferous in your belief that Fatah and the PLO are also evil terrorists... don't you support whoever blew their shit up?

King_David

(14,851 posts)
7. If I'm so vociferous I'm sure you can link it up
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 10:04 AM
Nov 2014

If you never manufactured "facts" about me as you usually do.

Link it up ...

Go for it .

King_David

(14,851 posts)
9. Point proven
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 10:14 AM
Nov 2014

Best not to manufacture my opinion or anybody else's and stick to expressing your own here.


Cheers !

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
10. Do you not think Fatah is a terrorist organization Dave/
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 10:22 AM
Nov 2014

Please do tell me so we can possibly avoid such mishaps in the future. I'll bookmark your answer.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
11. You have a lot of "mishaps "as you call it
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 10:41 AM
Nov 2014

On a variety of topics proclaiming my "beliefs".

You should stick to posting your own opinions and let me post my own.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
13. You were caught attributing an opinion to myself
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 12:05 PM
Nov 2014

A clear fabrication.

And now want to desperately change the subject.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
14. I'm trying to find out what your opinion is, actually
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 12:57 PM
Nov 2014

Are you saying you do not believe Fatah to be a terrorist organization? I mean you seem really upset that I said you do. But you don't seem too willing to make it clear that you don't.

if you don't think Fatah is a terrorist organization, why not say so?

If you do think Fatah is a terrorist organization... well, I guess admitting that would be kind of awkward now, huh?

King_David

(14,851 posts)
16. You should express your opinions here
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 02:43 PM
Nov 2014

And not fabricate other people's opinions.

Good lesson for you.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
20. Yes you express your opinions and don't attribute
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 08:11 PM
Nov 2014

what you want others opinions to be especially if nasty.

Best let others express their own opinions.

That's the lesson you should take from all this.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
17. You need a course in logic...
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 02:55 PM
Nov 2014
Also, given that you've been quite vociferous in your belief that Fatah and the PLO are also evil terrorists... don't you support whoever blew their shit up?


Fatah and PLO are terrorists to this day. It doesn't logically follow that anyone who thinks they're terrorists supports other terrorists who attack them.
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
19. But wouldn't one support the action itself?
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 08:09 PM
Nov 2014

If blowing up a crowd of civilians to get one guy is acceptable, why not this?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
15. PA security forces point finger at Hamas for Gaza blasts
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 01:04 PM
Nov 2014

RAMALLAH (Ma'an) -- A spokesman for the Palestinian Authority security services on Friday accused Hamas of responsibility for the attacks targeting the property of Fatah leaders in Gaza, hours after the group's leaders condemned the incidents and denied any responsibility.

Spokesman Adnan al-Damiri said in a statement that all arms and explosives in the Gaza Strip are under Hamas control and alleged that it would have been "unlikely" that 15 explosions occur at the same time in the tiny enclave without Hamas authorities' knowledge.

Al-Damiri added that blowing up the platform set up to celebrate the anniversary of the death of Yasser Arafat in the attacks was an "unethical, un-religious, and unpatriotic act" and was a result of Hamas incitement against the Palestinian leadership and the president in recent days.

http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=738280

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
22. Hamas condemns Fatah for accusations of Gaza blasts responsibility
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 12:32 PM
Nov 2014

GAZA CITY (Ma'an) -- A top member of the Hamas politburo on Saturday condemned Fatah leaders for accusing Hamas of being linked to more than a dozen blasts across Gaza the day before, urging all sides to prevent rhetoric that could undermine national unity.

Khalil al-Hayya called upon Fatah leaders to hand over to Gaza security services the names of those that Fatah claims are responsible for the attacks targeting the homes and cars of Fatah leaders, condemning Fatah for having rushed to conclusions.

"If the cost of these blasts is avoiding reconciliation, we have the right to ask who is behind them," he said, stressing that Hamas is not "hiding" behind the blasts to avoid reconciliation.

He also condemned Fatah leaders for making unfounded accusations and holding Hamas responsible for the blasts "even before security services reached the results of their investigations."

http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=738419

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