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oberliner

(58,724 posts)
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 10:56 AM Nov 2014

Iran’s Khamenei: No Cure for Barbaric Israel but Annihilation

Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei took to Twitter to call for the destruction of Israel over the weekend. He first started with a string of vitriolic anti-Israel tweets that called for the destruction of the “barbaric, wolflike & infanticidal regime of Israel.”

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/11/09/iran_s_khamenei_israel_must_be_annihilated.html

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Iran’s Khamenei: No Cure for Barbaric Israel but Annihilation (Original Post) oberliner Nov 2014 OP
I wonder how people like juan cole will spin this Mosby Nov 2014 #1
A Sincere question, what do you mean by translation? Was it originally not in english? GoneFishin Nov 2014 #2
Translation azurnoir Nov 2014 #4
Do you have knowledge of what the word genocide means? azurnoir Nov 2014 #15
Sure Mosby Nov 2014 #17
apparently not in fact #2 specifically states that does not mean massacring Jews in the region azurnoir Nov 2014 #18
if there is going to be a peacful plebiscite Mosby Nov 2014 #27
You are right. potone Nov 2014 #42
Eye opening chart you posted hack89 Nov 2014 #50
oh and this - "Liberalism dies a little every day thanks to people like you azur." azurnoir Nov 2014 #23
well you did say "not supporting this statement" Mosby Nov 2014 #26
Sure, it's in the Hamas covenant & Iran aids, abets, & arms Hamas. shira Nov 2014 #25
And in English yet too azurnoir Nov 2014 #3
@Khamenei.ir is his English account, @Khamenei.ar is his Arabic account oberliner Nov 2014 #5
I'll bet it is at that :) azurnoir Nov 2014 #6
I don't understand this reaction oberliner Nov 2014 #7
What's his Farsi account? Scootaloo Nov 2014 #8
Lol yep :) azurnoir Nov 2014 #9
What is the joke? oberliner Nov 2014 #11
The joke is that they can't condem this genocidal/murderous garbage. Mosby Nov 2014 #12
Regimes are people, my friend n/t Scootaloo Nov 2014 #14
I always hold out hope they'll do the right thing.... shira Nov 2014 #16
+1 King_David Nov 2014 #20
Here oberliner Nov 2014 #10
so is he saying he is for eliminating Jews ala Hitler? yes no what? azurnoir Nov 2014 #13
No, in fact he specifically says the opposite oberliner Nov 2014 #22
Have you read your own thread recently? I am having that discussion with another poster azurnoir Nov 2014 #24
The Jews just have go back to where they came from hack89 Nov 2014 #51
I wonder how Poland will handle the influx of returning Jews oberliner Nov 2014 #52
He is not looking to dance the Hora with us, that is for sure.... King_David Nov 2014 #41
Kick King_David Nov 2014 #19
Netanyahu, the Prince of Peace: Jefferson23 Nov 2014 #21
Iran supreme leader touts 9-point plan to destroy Israel King_David Nov 2014 #28
Read the Likud charter, and ask yourself what Bibi should expect in response. Jefferson23 Nov 2014 #29
Well , allowing someone like this King_David Nov 2014 #30
Ignore the threats and promises kept by Bibi and his cabinet to make sure there is no Jefferson23 Nov 2014 #31
This dude doesn't care about a Palestinian state King_David Nov 2014 #32
There has never been one..so it's absurd to make statements like that. n/t Jefferson23 Nov 2014 #33
Iran, Hamas, etc. are into Islamic Caliphates not secular states... shira Nov 2014 #34
Khamenei's words as pointed out-Iran definitely does not want “the massacre of the Jewish people azurnoir Nov 2014 #36
Oh yes, you believe the Ayatollah now... shira Nov 2014 #37
it wasn't my comment I linked you to was it? azurnoir Nov 2014 #38
SoS different day. You go out of your way explaining away.... shira Nov 2014 #39
who's comment did I link you to? n/t azurnoir Nov 2014 #40
But he specificially says sabbat hunter Nov 2014 #45
why are you addressng me? wasn't my comment azurnoir Nov 2014 #46
I had to post my response to someone in the subthread sabbat hunter Nov 2014 #47
"9 key questions about the elimination of Israel" Mosby Nov 2014 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author shira Nov 2014 #35
Kick King_David Nov 2014 #43
Kick King_David Nov 2014 #44
Iran leader's call to 'annihilate' Israel sparks fury as nuclear deadline looms King_David Nov 2014 #49
... 840high Nov 2014 #53

Mosby

(16,366 posts)
1. I wonder how people like juan cole will spin this
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 11:05 AM
Nov 2014

Last edited Mon Nov 10, 2014, 03:25 PM - Edit history (1)

Bad translation?

False flag?


The Ayatollah's genocidal, murderous vision for Israel:



GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
2. A Sincere question, what do you mean by translation? Was it originally not in english?
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 11:18 AM
Nov 2014

If it was in another language then who translated it?

I honestly don't know the answer.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
15. Do you have knowledge of what the word genocide means?
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 04:44 PM
Nov 2014

please cut and paste the passage from hat you posted above that says Khameni plans genocide

not supporting the statement but a hyperbolic response to this isn't helpful either

Mosby

(16,366 posts)
17. Sure
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 04:55 PM
Nov 2014

"we do not expect the usurper Zionists to easily SURRENDER..."

"powerful CONFRONTATION"

"resolute and ARMED resistance"

"resolute and ARMED confrontation"

"the West Bank should be armed like Gaza..." (like the terrorists)


I hope this clears up your confusion.

The path to a PEACEFUL resolution is via UNSCR 242, 338 and 1515.

but by all means back up the crazy theocrat of Iran, it's the progressive thing to do, supporting genocide, ethnic cleansing and fascism.




azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
18. apparently not in fact #2 specifically states that does not mean massacring Jews in the region
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 05:04 PM
Nov 2014

but thanks for sharing your opinion

Mosby

(16,366 posts)
27. if there is going to be a peacful plebiscite
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 06:02 PM
Nov 2014

Why would the Jews need to "surrender"

Care to address that?

Keep in mind he would only let the "good Jews" vote (yeah, sure) the bad Jews don't get to vote.

I bet some of those Jewish Zionists would like their homes and property returned to them that was taken by the Persians.

potone

(1,701 posts)
42. You are right.
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 09:36 PM
Nov 2014

This is not a call to commit genocide but neither is it a realistic solution to the conflict. There is no way that any Israeli government would agree to such a proposal that excludes many of Israel's citizens from having a vote in the country's future, nor would the US allow such a plebiscite to take place. The Iranian government must know that this isn't going to happen; if they really care about the Palestinians they should work together with the Arab world to support a reasonable solution that would grant the Palestinians a state in return for peace. I don't see them contributing anything constructive to the process and I think that their actions are completely cynical. They need an external enemy as an excuse for the repression of their own citizens.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
23. oh and this - "Liberalism dies a little every day thanks to people like you azur."
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 05:36 PM
Nov 2014

Show me specifically where I support what was said and while your comment is a personal attack I prefer it remain and be s public as possible

Mosby
17. Sure

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"we do not expect the usurper Zionists to easily SURRENDER..."

"powerful CONFRONTATION"

"resolute and ARMED resistance"

"resolute and ARMED confrontation"

"the West Bank should be armed like Gaza..." (like the terrorists)


I hope this clears up your confusion.

The path to a PEACEFUL resolution is via UNSCR 242, 338 and 1515.

but by all means back up the crazy theocrat of Iran, it's the progressive thing to do, supporting genocide, ethnic cleansing and fascism.

Liberalism dies a little every day thanks to people like you azur.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/113486658#post17


Mosby

(16,366 posts)
26. well you did say "not supporting this statement"
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 05:59 PM
Nov 2014

Funny way to say you disagree with the ayatollah but I edited my post anyway.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
25. Sure, it's in the Hamas covenant & Iran aids, abets, & arms Hamas.
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 05:43 PM
Nov 2014

Actions speak louder than words.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
3. And in English yet too
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 11:42 AM
Nov 2014

Khamenei.ir @khamenei_ir
Follow

This barbaric, wolflike & infanticidal regime of #Israel which spares no crime has no cure but to be annihilated. 7/23/14 #HandsOffAlAqsa
6:15 AM - 8 Nov 2014


will wonders never cease

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
5. @Khamenei.ir is his English account, @Khamenei.ar is his Arabic account
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 01:29 PM
Nov 2014

If you want to see what is being tweeted in Arabic, try here:

https://twitter.com/khamenei_ar

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
6. I'll bet it is at that :)
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 02:25 PM
Nov 2014

oberliner
5. @Khamenei.ir is his English account, @Khamenei.ar is his Arabic account

View profile
If you want to see what is being tweeted in Arabic, try here:

https://twitter.com/khamenei_ar

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113486658#post6


Mosby

(16,366 posts)
12. The joke is that they can't condem this genocidal/murderous garbage.
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 03:27 PM
Nov 2014

because it would affect their Progressive street cred.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
16. I always hold out hope they'll do the right thing....
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 04:53 PM
Nov 2014

....by condemning this garbage and other similar incitement and hate against Jewish people.

They never do.

Guess the "zionists" have it coming...

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
22. No, in fact he specifically says the opposite
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 05:34 PM
Nov 2014

Did you not actually read the article linked in the OP?

In case you didn't:

Iran definitely does not want “the massacre of the Jewish people” but rather Iran has proposed “a practical & logical mechanism” to eliminate Israel through a referendum involving “all the original people of Palestine, including Muslims, Chrsitians and Jews” anywhere in the world.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
24. Have you read your own thread recently? I am having that discussion with another poster
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 05:38 PM
Nov 2014

who claims that Khamenei made genocidal threats

hack89

(39,171 posts)
51. The Jews just have go back to where they came from
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 10:55 AM
Nov 2014

They would also not be allowed to vote in the referendum that decides their fate. And UN mediation is out of the question. Sounds like a winning plan to me.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
52. I wonder how Poland will handle the influx of returning Jews
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 11:01 AM
Nov 2014

It will be interesting to see how that plays out.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
21. Netanyahu, the Prince of Peace:
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 05:30 PM
Nov 2014

Netanyahu will ask Obama to threaten Iran strike Israel ...
www.haaretz.com/.../netanyahu-will-ask-obama-to-threaten-iran-...
Haaretz
Feb 29, 2012 - Iran is Israel's problem, NOT the US's Bibi can deal with it all by himself. ... Netanyahu, you can ask Obama to threaten Iran as much as he ...

Netanyahu: Iran Threatens the Entire World - Arutz Sheva
www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/130723
Arutz Sheva
PM Netanyahu tells U.S. magazine that Iran threatens the entire world, warns that without support, Israel may be forced to ... A nuclear Iran would endanger not only Israel, but the entire world, Netanyahu warned. .... They will not listen BiBi!


* Show us your arsenal, Bibi.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
28. Iran supreme leader touts 9-point plan to destroy Israel
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 01:02 AM
Nov 2014

Ayatollah Khamenei says West Bank should be armed like Gaza, and Jewish population should return to countries it came from

“The Zionists should know that the next war won’t be confined to the present borders and the Mujahedeen will push them back,” he added. Naqdi claimed that much of Hamas’s arsenal, training and technical knowhow in the recent conflict with Israel was supplied by Iran.

Read more: Iran supreme leader touts 9-point plan to destroy Israel | The Times of Israel http://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-supreme-leader-touts-9-point-plan-to-destroy-israel/#ixzz3IjWM5veM
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Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
29. Read the Likud charter, and ask yourself what Bibi should expect in response.
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 08:01 AM
Nov 2014

Bibi has also done all he could to undermine Obama and the Iran negotiations.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
30. Well , allowing someone like this
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 08:05 AM
Nov 2014

Who makes promises like this about Israel to get a nuclear bomb is pretty scary.

He's not threatening Bibi or Likud , he's threatening all of Israel -- well all the Jews of Israel anyway .

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
31. Ignore the threats and promises kept by Bibi and his cabinet to make sure there is no
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 08:07 AM
Nov 2014

Palestinian state.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
34. Iran, Hamas, etc. are into Islamic Caliphates not secular states...
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 08:56 AM
Nov 2014

Iran awaits the 12th Imam who will kill all Infidels (that's all of us here at DU) in order to establish Shia Islam across the planet. That's what they're all about & it's even crazier than the Temple Mount Whackos who want to blow up Al-Aqsa and replace it with a 3rd Temple.

Really, let's allow them nukes. Lots of them.

They definitely want to fuck up all the Infidels' shit. From leftwing atheists to fundy Xtians and Jews. The Ayatollah and his loonies support Hamas and Hezbollah whose goals are to absolutely destroy Israel and kill its Jews. Not to mention millions of Muslims (see ISIS & the rest of the middle east).

Love how you wish to deflect from their genocidal intentions.

Just what I come to expect from anti-Israel progressives.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
36. Khamenei's words as pointed out-Iran definitely does not want “the massacre of the Jewish people
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 09:32 AM
Nov 2014

Iran definitely does not want “the massacre of the Jewish people” but rather Iran has proposed “a practical & logical mechanism” to eliminate Israel through a referendum involving “all the original people of Palestine, including Muslims, Chrsitians and Jews” anywhere in the world.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113486658#post22

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
37. Oh yes, you believe the Ayatollah now...
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 09:35 AM
Nov 2014

How cute. No way he could be lying, right?

Keep doing your worst....

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
39. SoS different day. You go out of your way explaining away....
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 10:41 AM
Nov 2014

...everything Israel's most hostile, backwards Jihadi enemies say and do while buying into every vicious lie and smear about Israel.

The pattern is well established. You mock Israel's whackiest extremists while siding with Israel's most vicious and hostile enemy Jihadi whackjobs dedicated to wholesale genocide, ethnic cleansing, apartheid, and gutter racism.

If there are ever 2 states you will support a Hamastan and defend it rigorously. If Israel becomes the most liberal, progressive nation on the planet you will continue to bash it daily, just like Hamas and their BDS friends promise.

I get it, no worries.

sabbat hunter

(6,835 posts)
45. But he specificially says
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 08:02 PM
Nov 2014

none of those that emigrated there.

The original people of Palestine aka all the refugees and their children no matter where they went after 1948. Or any jews that were there pre-1948. Any Jews that came after 1948 do not get a vote.

He wants to eliminate Israel and get rid of any jews currently living there (they should go back to teh countries they were originally from).

I am guessing that if they don't leave willingly they would be forced to leave or be killed in Khamenei's world.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
46. why are you addressng me? wasn't my comment
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 08:29 PM
Nov 2014

and you're free to to 'guess' anything you want as it's all figurative anyway

Mosby

(16,366 posts)
48. "9 key questions about the elimination of Israel"
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 01:05 AM
Nov 2014

With a chart going over every one, don't know how much more literal one could be.

How could you possibly see his statements as metaphorical?

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