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BETHLEHEM (Ma'an) -- Senior PLO officials on Wednesday strongly condemned the results of Israel's general election, as Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud party took 30 of the Knesset's 120 seats.Israelis walk past by campaign posters showing Israeli Prime Minister
Benjamin Netanyahu on March 12, 2015 in the Israeli city of Ramat Gan.
(AFP/Menahem Kahana)
"The results of the Israeli elections are the natural outcome of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's policies throughout his previous tenures of generating fear, hostility and distrust, as well as shifting the whole terrain of political discourse to the racist extreme," PLO Executive Committee Member Hanan Ashrawi said.
Netanyahu's policies are liable to plunge the whole region into more "extremism and violence," the senior official said, adding that under such a regime Israel will continue to be a "rogue state" which is contributing to its own "isolation and delegitimization."
"We believe it is the responsibility of the international community and its institutions, including the International Criminal Court, to end Israel's impunity, to curb Israeli violations and to prevent Netanyahu from carrying out his dangerous plans."
http://www.maannews.com/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=759972
FBaggins
(26,748 posts)It isn't rockets, terrorists, or suicide bombers that generate fear and distrust... it's government policies related to how to respond to those attacks.
Yeah... that makes sense.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)FBaggins
(26,748 posts)It takes two willing partners and it was clear that Hamas is not (and may never be) willing. They made noise about accepting a two state solution as they were negotiating with the PA... but all they ever accepted was the Palestinian half of the plan. They never went beyond agreeing to a temporary halt in hostilities (if that)... never close to recognizing Israel's right to exist.
It became pretty clear in the last several days that Netanyahu's failure to accept this reality and state the obvious corollary (that the 2-state plan is dead) was hurting him.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)There's never been much doubt that Bibi was in favor of permanent apartheid, at least now it's official.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)with Communism.
Israel is a nation of SAE frat boys.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Give my regards to the empire and apartheid.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)talks are now officially off the table and it was not the Palestinians who took them off, no matter what sort of excuses are made
Fozzledick
(3,860 posts)Abbas BRAGGED about how he would never ever recognize Israel or agree to a permanent cessation of hostilities after he walked out of negotiations.
Netanyahu is just acknowledging the reality that the Palestinians have chosen to create.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)http://news.yahoo.com/palestinian-leader-abbas-says-talks-israel-still-table-163041548.html
It was Netanyahu/Israel that definitively took talks off of the table
and oh in case you 'forgot'
the Palestinians recognized Israel on September 13, 1993.
Fozzledick
(3,860 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)Fozzledick
(3,860 posts)after Abbas' lieutenant bragged about how they had "duped the Jews" into releasing them with false promises to negotiate when their plan from the beginning was to walk out as soon as the last one was released?
Yeah, that pretty much sums up the PA's intentions and the reason for the current situation in a nutshell.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)if Israel did not want to release them it should not have agreed to it no amount of spin and confabulation can change that
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)so they didn't get a chance to stab him in the back?
Sounds like someone trying to justify Germany's invasion of Russia, because Russia would have invaded first otherwise.
Fozzledick
(3,860 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)I think attempts to goad him should stop, but he's a big guy and speaks for himself.
That said, I don't believe anyone is waving around straw men other than you. With a side of hyperbole.
Fozzledick
(3,860 posts)When it's that easy to hit a nerve, it must be really sore.
And whenever someone tries to put words into my mouth that I never said, I know they have nothing honest to say.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Where you falsely stated that Abbas tanked peace talks by refusing to recognize Israel. When the Palestinians have recognized Israel since 1993.
Given that most people here view President Obama and not Prime Minister Putinyahoo as their leader, perhaps you are a bit disoriented.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)It isn't "hitting a nerve" on the part of the person you are arguing with - you, for example. It is hitting a nerve when the person you are arguing with has a near meltdown (you, for example) and attempts to lob insults at anyone and everyone - for example.
As to your last sentence, the projection is so thick, gamma rays wouldn't penetrate it, and displays my point in stark relief.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)A poster with a Jerry Garcia icon celebrating the defeat of any and all hopes for peace in Israel/Palestine, and cheering for perpetual war and the total injustice of the settlement project.
There's no possible way to endorse what the Israeli government is doing and what Netanyahu demands(such as war with Iran, which is what bombing Iran would have to lead to) and still retain any Sixties values at all.
Could you at least do the decent thing and trade out Jerry for Toby Keith?
Fozzledick
(3,860 posts)But I understand that it's because you are unable to rebut what I actually said. It must be terribly frustrating for you, but I have no sympathy for dishonesty.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)fits isn't putting "hateful words" in anyone's mouth. It's just surmising exactly what you have already said before.
I think you will find that on DU, we take people at their word.
Please clear the air if this is erroneous, but without the personal attacks or dishonesty.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)In every post you've ever made here, you've been an unquestioning, undeviating defender of whatever the Likudniks have called for.
You've never condemned any of the West Bank settlements.
You've never condemned anything the IDF has done in the West Bank.
You never questioned anything that was done to Gaza.
And you've repeatedly equated any condemnation or questioning of any of the above as "anti-Israel" and, by implication, antisemitic).
You pretty much post the AIPAC line, day after day.
So what was in any sense inaccurate about anything I said in that post?
You do unquestioningly endorse the right-wing myth that the conflict is all the Palestinians' fault, and that they are driven by nothing but bigotry.
Fozzledick
(3,860 posts)but I can understand why you want to change the subject after you got caught at it.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)I simply provided full justification for what I said in that post.
And my point about your totally inappropriate icon stands. Jerry Garcia and the Grateful Dead would never have supported a militaristic government anywhere. You're insulting Jerry's memory by using him as an icon.
Fozzledick
(3,860 posts)And I'm not the one here advocating endless war.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)So yes, yes you are.
If you feel that anything I've posted is unacceptable, alert on it.
Fozzledick
(3,860 posts)Yes, your attempt to put your own hateful words into my mouth is truly sickening.
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Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)I didn't consider what you wrote their alert-worthy.
shaayecanaan
(6,068 posts)All your friends seem to have given up the ghost.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)1) The PA has recognized Israel for decades, so your first statement is a lie.
2) Abbas walked out of negotiations after Netanyahu refused to hold up his end of the bargain on trust-building measures. If he couldn't deliver prisoners, he sure as shit couldn't deliver a peace accord.
3) Israel is a rightwing racist state that wants to cage the Palestinians as animals, and views its own Arab citizens as alien invaders and enemies.
4) Netanyahu apologists and supporters are rightwing, racist scumbags. And if they don't like being called racist rightwing scumbags, they are free to out themselves as Republicans rather than pretending to be Democrats.
android fan
(214 posts)But agree with you on #3 and #4.
Bibi is what is ailing Israel. The elections should have removed Bibi from power, but it didn't.
The problem Bibi currently has right now, that he alienated almost every party, and will not be able to form a coalition.
If that's the case, the elections will be in a few weeks, and Bibi will be then unceremoniously thrown out in favor of someone who can work out a plan for a 2 state solution and leave Israel alone.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)and it isn't going to turn out well for relations between the US and Israel.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)android fan
(214 posts)Bibi is dead wrong about this. And he knows this.
Yes, the majority is Jewish, but it includes a lot of minorities that makes up Israel, and Israeli-Arabs happen to take about 20% of Israel's population and was the third largest vote getters (JAL at 11%)
He's just trying to rile up the hatemongers, but he's not going to succeed because he has no plan except to bomb Iran. And for 30 years "a year away from producing nuclear weapons" - bullshit.
The sooner the Likudniks gets rid of Bibi, the sooner a coalition will be formed, with the goal of a two state solution.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)even though only 75% of our population is Jewish seems a bit like the Republicans wanting the US recognized as an Anglo/Saxon state not something for the 21st century IMO
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)I wish I had your capacity for hope in this situation.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)For what it is worth, the results haven't come in yet, and I agree with you. Netanyahu's re-election is going to end up being a very dark day for Israeli-US relations.
Aerows
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geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)To my knowledge.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Well I sure as hell am not your mom - of that you can be sure!
H2O Man
(73,559 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)H2O Man
(73,559 posts)on if I may or may not be your father. Let's not even go there. Don't even bring it up.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)We could be such proud parents, H2O
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)with it.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)from Jerry Springer?
bravenak
(34,648 posts)You know a peach from a poison plum!
Aerows
(39,961 posts)how much I *adore* your avatar? It just rocks
bravenak
(34,648 posts)I just resized it from one I found. I'm a Stark.
Fozzledick
(3,860 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)and Dick Cheney as your leader.
Fozzledick
(3,860 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Bibi helped Bush drag us into invading Iraq, and now he's trying to drag us into a war with Iran,.
And he's an old-school Arab-hating Likudnik who doesn't believe that Palestinians have human rights.
Which is why only racist, rightwing war pigs support him.
Fozzledick
(3,860 posts)Blind hatred can be terribly self-destructive.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)or are you still trying to be the head of the class in Projection 101?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)on a Democratic website.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)any apologia for war makes one ... a person that desires war. And our war in the ME seems like it is endless due to the lives of loved ones we have lost.
The treasury that the American people has had squandered in their name.
The only dishonesty is attempting to provoke someone to fight a war that *you* want, but aren't willing to pay for in blood and treasure, while asking someone to fight the fight you picked to begin with.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Nothing but an apologia for endless war.
Fozzledick
(3,860 posts)Truly pathetic. I'd like nothing better than peace, which is why you keep attacking me. Your hatred appears to be an end in itself.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)and the settlements. And you wouldn't keep insinuating that criticism of Israeli security is antisemitism.
You need to accept that the Israeli side as at least as much to blame for the conflict as the "Palestinian leadership".
Fozzledick
(3,860 posts)You can try to twist that around all you want, but the nastier and sleazier you get about it, the more ridiculous you look, and the farther you get from the truth the harder it is to take anything you say seriously.
And when I see someone obsessively and fanatically vilifying Israel for defending itself against openly genocidal totalitarian aggressors in a manor that goes WAY beyond honest "criticism" to blatant incitement of hatred and violence consistent with a pro-war propaganda campaign, it does raise some very ugly questions about the motivation behind it that their usual cover stories don't begin to account for.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Palestinians have been fighting dispossession-that's something anyone would fight anywhere. And they aren't bigots for fighting that.
Yes, they have had horrible leaders(as has Israel, in equal measure-Palestinians have every right to regard the Occupation and the settlements as totally unjustified acts of collective punishment and oppression) but they also have legitimate grievances.
And for all the sanctimony about "terrorism", the Israeli government and the allegedly "world's most moral army" the IDF) have suppressed not only people engaged in armed struggle, but also almost all nonviolent protest. And they have harassed the Palestinian population collectively in completely unjustifiable ways-such as the destruction of solar panels built to provide energy for Palestinian villages just because the Occupation authorities hadn't approved the construction of those panels(even though there is no possible way to weaponize solar energy).
If you want Palestinian violence to end, you have to defend their right to resist nonviolently without getting violent repression in response. And the basic humanity of the Palestinian people has to be acknowledged, as well as their equally deep connection with the lands in question. This can be done without putting Israel's existence into question-and it must be done if there is any hope of getting Palestinians to change in the way you want them to change(and the way I'd like to have any reason at all to ask them to change).
And if you want peace, you have to back, at the very minimum, a two-state solution, and at the earliest possible date. It's only possible to get a more reasonable Palestinian leadership once they have gained independence. Keep them under Occupation, and all that can happen is the encouragement of the exact same "circle the wagons" mentality that just re-elected that murderous bastard Netanyahu(a man Palestinians have just as much right to consider a terrorist as Israelis have to consider the Hamas leadership one). If the Israel government keeps trying to block the creation of a Palestinian state, it has no right to expect or to ask the Palestinian people to try to change their leadership at all, and no right to expect the surrounding Arab states to make peace(it's impossible for them to simply abandon the Palestinians, since virtually everyone in the Arab/Muslim world is a committed supporter of Palestinian self-determination)and despite the cynical and insensitive attempts by the Israeli right to revive the idea, an Israeli-Jordanian confederation in which Palestinians are denied self-government will never be acceptable to any significant number of people in the West Bank-if they'd been ok with that idea, they would not have founded the PLO in 1964, at a time when the West Bank was still under Jordanian rule.
Finally, Israel has to be willing to accept at least partial physical RoR, with those who aren't allowed to return physically being given apologies for the expulsion of their ancestors in 1948 and an official acknowledgment that they have the right to identify as Palestine and to see Palestine as their home(in addition to compensation for any monetary or property losses). And Israel should be willing to accept those people, if they aren't allowed to move to their families' homes in pre-1967 Israel, being allowed to move to the West Bank and to at least visit the family homes they forfeited. It's cruel to say they can't ever see the places where their grandparents lived.
Israel has a right to exist(although Netanyahu's insistence that it be recognized by Palestinians "as a Jewish state"-a demand the Israeli negotiators NEVER made of Egypt or of Jordan, btw-is petty and childish, since simply recognizing the state by definition recognizes is as a Jewish homeland)but Palestinians equally have a right to self-determination in the West Bank and Gaza. And while the massive injustices done to European Jewry that led to Israel's creation still need to be urgently addressed(in some ways the creation of Israel may, unintentionally, have let Europe and North America's antisemites off the hook by pretending that the creation of this state, by itself, was enough to clean the slate) it needs to be acknowledged, in my view, that it was never really fair for Israeli propaganda to cast the Palestinians and the other Arabs as the successors in villainy to Hitler, the tsars, Torquemada, and the Roman Empire. The Arab/Palestinian position on Israel, while sometimes expressed in an antisemitic-sounding way(which was always unacceptable) was not driven by the same things that drove the murderous actions of Christian Europe and Pagan-then-Christian Rome-it was driven far more by questions of control of the land and by a wish to avoid Western influence in the region.
Both sides in the I/P dispute made a lot of mistakes, and both sides, equally, need to change.
But there's no way "staying the course" on the West Bank and Gaza can lead to positive change on either side. Preserving the status quo is the worst of all options, since it means preserving a complete lack of hope.
Fozzledick
(3,860 posts)That's why the Palestinians have consistently rejected every offer of a two state solution; they don't really want it. They think they can eventually achieve conquest if they just refuse to make peace, and so the war drags on without end.
To suggest that Israel can appease them by surrendering territory while they continue to press their attacks, or that a stable state can be created without a solid peace agreement and cessation of hostilities first is absurd. As we've seen in Gaza, it only reinforces their belief that violence is the way to success and encourages an immediate escalation.
And it isn't Israel that chooses to preserve the status quo. Their original plan was to withdraw from the West Bank as soon as Gaza stabilized, but the Palestinians choose to prevent that.
Hamas is happy with their Iranian-financed dictatorship in Gaza, and Abbas is perfectly content to divert foreign aid into his Swiss bank accounts. Neither of them want a real peace that would threaten their personal cash flow and local monopoly on power.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)the Likud bullshit you're spouting could be credible if one squinted hard enough.
But, people who insist that Israeli settlement building hasn't done severe harm to the potential for peace are some combination of blatantly dishonest and blinded by hatred for the Palestinians.
Which describes all of Netanyahu's apologists.
Fozzledick
(3,860 posts)Until then they have no one but themselves to blame for endlessly extending the war they started and lost decades ago.
And FWIW, I take your clumsy attempts to provoke a fight as an expression of your frustration at your own inability to make a meaningful rebuttal. Amusing but pathetic.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)settlement expansion policies are proof of that, as is his pronouncement that there will be no Palestinian state as long as he is PM.
"that will all be settled with land swaps."
No one here is stupid enough to believe that dishonest bullshit. The entire point of building those colonial outposts is to make a Palestinian state impossible, by carving up the Palestinian territory so that it's impossible for Palestinians to travel inside their own territory, let alone be self-governing.
To actually come out and say that this construction is actually driven by efforts to undermine a future Palestinian state is fairly dramatic, said the official. He added that the Obama administration is focused not just on Netanyahus comments but on his several-year record of action on this issue casting doubt on his desire for a peace agreement.
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/israels-america-united-116203.html
Israel's extreme rightwing government is explicitly pro-settlement expansion and dominated by the settler groups. The settlers are the ones who elected Putinyahu.
Anyone who suggests Netanyahu would deploy the IDF to evict those people has as much credibility as the Kremlin trolls who claim Ukraine shot down MH17.
And those who waved their pom-poms for the IDF's slaughter of children in Gaza really should not be heard to talk about Palestinian violence.
Fozzledick
(3,860 posts)Don't you know there aren't any?
"No one here is stupid enough to believe that dishonest bullshit." My my, you do tempt me, but I don't think anyone who's read your posts could take that claim seriously.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)whose sole purpose is to make a negotiated settlement impossible.
Go ahead. Your repetitive, unsubstantiated slurs against the Palestinians and knee-jerk defense of every crime Israel has ever committed has broken my will through sheer force of tedium.
Also, if I wanted to debate people with the extreme rightwing viewpoint, I would not be here.
Toodles.
Fozzledick
(3,860 posts)You can always just keep chanting "apartheid" and "genocide" over and over the way the Republicans do with "Benghazi" and "birth certificate". It's an easy propaganda technique for those with nothing of substance to say and no regard for the truth.
"Also, if I wanted to debate people with the extreme rightwing viewpoint, I would not be here."
Obviously, you're here to insult and vilify people with a progressive leftwing viewpoint that you can't seem to tolerate. I can only wonder why.
android fan
(214 posts)No we're not.
Over 3,000 rockets were launched from Gaza towards Israel.
Granted, most of them were crude, but their intent was to destroy Israel per their charter.
The fact is, that Israel has every right to defend itself. They target Hamas, not children. Unfortunately, Hamas decided to choose urban warfare and locate, through their UN connections (UNRWA, and UNHRC) to move rockets into schools, hospitals, homes, etc, causing unnecessary causalities that are 100% Hamas fault.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)to help Hamas kill innocent Jews.
If dead Palestinians bother you in the slightest, you do a very good job of hiding it. Because to your crowd the outrage isn't the IDF killing children, it's people pointing out that the IDF is killing children.
android fan
(214 posts)just spread more propaganda about Israel without checking their facts first.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)and then back those talking points up with batshit insane rightwing BIRTHER websites.
Let's see what else the lovely folks at your website believe:
http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/opinions/obama-backs-tehrans-push-for-hegemony/2015/03/16/
http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/analysis/obama-supports-anti-semitic-palestinian-agenda-of-jew-free-state/2014/10/02/
http://www.jewishpress.com/news/yoris-daily-news-clips/the-nice-lady-who-destroyed-obama/2012/05/18/0/?print
If it turns out as it probably has, now that Barack Obama lied to all of us about having been born in Kenya, we should not forgive him. Not because he's a liar but because he's stupid. Stupid enough to believe you can fool all the people all the time. Certainly not in the You Tube and Facebook era.
http://www.jewishpress.com/news/yoris-daily-news-clips/supreme-court-wont-hear-birther-appeal-obama-may-be-american-after-all/2012/06/12/
http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/opinions/stunning-insensitivity-from-michelle-obama/2014/02/11/
Etc etc etc.
Thanks for officially outing yourself.
We need better hasbara trolls.
android fan
(214 posts)They are facts.
Abbas is in his 10th year of his 4 year term. He has not even called for an election since he took the helm of PA.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Nobody outside of AIPAC headquarters will believe the Israelis are genuinely interested in a negotiated settlement until they stop expanding the settlements.
The current and next Israeli government oppose a two-state solution--they just vaguely pretend to in order to give cover to their shameless apologists in the US.
Netanyahu's two-faced solution this past week and his admission he built settlements to carve up the Palestinians' territory are per se proof of that.
Everyone on the planet knows this.
If they wanted a negotiated settlement with a Palestinian state resulting, they wouldn't be lustily expanding the settlements with the explicit purpose of making the Palestinian territories ungovernable.
When they're serious about peace, they'll stop that stuff. Doesn't cost them anything to stop making things worse.
But, until then it's just a lie.
NoJusticeNoPeace
(5,018 posts)can you imagine how bad it is gonna be there in Israel
Gonna be a war, for sure.
Or more war, Iran, etc
Little Tich
(6,171 posts)Israel will be taken to the ICC over alleged war crimes as well as the legality of the settlements and the occupation itself. Israel has pretended to negotiate for decades, but in the end Israel hasnt offered a single square inch of land, only demanded land from the Palestinians. There is no reason to see the absence of meaningless negotiations as a loss, IMHO.
The only good thing that comes out of this is that Netanyahu is already not very well liked internationally, and that he is seen as an obstacle to peace with the Palestinians.
I dont know if there is still time for a two-state solution, I feel that a one-state solution is perhaps easier and more fair to everyone. The problem is that if Netanyahu isnt stopped, the one-state solution will be the only solution left.
Damn, I really hoped that Israel could get rid of this bell end.