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Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
Mon May 21, 2012, 08:16 AM May 2012

Free Dharun Ravi !!! Kinda sorta.

I was wondering what it was that was bothering me about this case. Yeah... partly that the perp is 19 y.o. or so; jail will only serve to further fuck-up him.... and his family; he couldn't have really predicted the consequences of his actions ( i.e that Tyler would jump off the GW Bridge) etc.

But none of that is really "it."

It's getting a little spooky: Dan Savage seems... once again... to know what I'm thinking and WHY I'm thinking before I fully do myself. (HTF did he get up there anyway?!)

This is "it" ( or at least CLOSE to it.).


From today's NYT:


>>Dan Savage, a gay columnist whose video campaign, “It Gets Better,” began in response to other suicides of gay teenagers just before Mr. Clementi, 18, jumped to his death from the George Washington Bridge, argued that simply locking up Mr. Ravi was a lost opportunity to talk about the other institutions and people “complicit” in Mr. Clementi’s death.

“What was he told about being gay growing up, by his faith leaders, by the media, by the culture?” Mr. Savage said. “Ravi may have been the last person who made him feel unsafe and abused and worthless, but he couldn’t have been the first.

“The rush to pin all the responsibility on Ravi and then wash our hands and walk away means we’re not going to learn the lessons of these kids.”>>


In other words.... putting Ravi away serves to sweep all the anti-gay bullshit alive and abounding in the culture neatly under the rug. We shouldn't let them get away with that.

Good article. Read it. Or else.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/21/nyregion/Some-Gay-Rights-Advocates-Question-Rutgers-Sentencing.html?hpw


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Free Dharun Ravi !!! Kinda sorta. (Original Post) Smarmie Doofus May 2012 OP
Good points from Savage... vi5 May 2012 #1
The problem is that gay bullying is NOT illegal Fearless May 2012 #2
Ravi needs to be punished... WillParkinson May 2012 #3
I'd rather he were rehabilitated dickthegrouch May 2012 #4
How true. Other important missed follow-up detailed here: proverbialwisdom May 2012 #5
 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
1. Good points from Savage...
Mon May 21, 2012, 08:31 AM
May 2012

He's pretty much on the mark with this one. It's just always a lot easier for us to pin the blame on one person, punish them and be done with it.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
2. The problem is that gay bullying is NOT illegal
Mon May 21, 2012, 09:29 AM
May 2012

In most states. Ravi did do something that is illegal. So, it's easy to latch onto, particularly since the legal system can do nothing else.

WillParkinson

(16,862 posts)
3. Ravi needs to be punished...
Mon May 21, 2012, 12:35 PM
May 2012

Though I fully admit I don't know what would best serve him as well as help society to understand the consequences of bullying.

dickthegrouch

(3,184 posts)
4. I'd rather he were rehabilitated
Tue May 22, 2012, 12:19 PM
May 2012

Assigning him a gay teen outreach 'volunteer' position might be far more useful than jailing him.

proverbialwisdom

(4,959 posts)
5. How true. Other important missed follow-up detailed here:
Sun May 27, 2012, 11:05 AM
May 2012
http://www.northjersey.com/columnists/kelly/052712_Kelly_Four_questions_left_unanswered_in_the_Dharun_Ravi_case.html?page=all

Kelly: Four questions left unanswered in Dharun Ravi case

Sunday, May 27, 2012 Last updated: Sunday May 27, 2012, 9:34 AM

By MIKE KELLY
RECORD COLUMNIST


Sometimes, criminal trials prompt us to think beyond the walls of a courtroom and to raise questions that touch on other issues. The trial of Dharun Ravi in the Rutgers spycam case was no exception.

The trial — and the emotionally charged sentencing of 20-year-old Ravi last week — left us with more questions than answers, mostly about Ravi himself and why he spied on his roommate’s homosexual encounter with another man.

But here are four questions that call out for more examination...

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