"Leave you sex drive at home for a week." (GOOD NEWS UPDATE!!!)

[Behind the Aegis]

Last edited Fri Aug 2, 2013, 02:07 PM - Edit history (1)

Response as to whether there should be a boycott of the Russian Olympics.

Believe it or not, that expression has been used twice, by two different posters!

Gay people = sex in the minds of some, so-called liberals/progressives/democrats.



But there is no homophobia here, it is just in our over-active, overly sensitive minds!

If there is not a "stay at home" boycott, then I would like to see all athletes and their supporters, gay or straight, wear the pink or black triangles (from Holocaust notoriety) on their sleeves as a form of protest of the anti-gay Russian progrom!

ETA:

southernyankeebelle
Posting Privileges Revoked
Made anti-gay comments, and then doubled-down in the LGBT group and in ATA. History of insensitive comments about various groups of people going back to DU2 -- probably should have been banned back then.

NA-na-na-na. Na-na-na-na. Hey, Hey, GOODBYE~!

[southernyankeebelle]

1. Please get it straight. When I said leave the sex drive at home for a week I didn't just say

gays. Please read my comment again. It seems to me every time a person disagrees with a gay person they are automatically against the gays. That is further from the truth. I just don't think its fair to stamp on peoples dreams. Like I said I don't believe in boycotts. I do like your last comment that people should wear ribbons to support the gay community. I like that idea. That shows support and people can choose the wear them. I would encourage my friends and family if they were going to wear them. Also about the sex thing is we send them there to do their jobs and that is what they should be doing.

[Pab Sungenis]

2. But the Russian prohibition

is not only on homosexual activity. The mere presence of an LGBT person in the Olympic Village could lead to an arrest.

Why? An openly gay athlete is a role model for children, which can be seen as propaganda to kids under the Russian law.

Sexual activity has NOTHING to do with it.

[southernyankeebelle]

4. So everyone should be prevented from going and that settles it. Screw peoples

dreams so long the LGBT community gets what they want.

[Lex]

7. Yeah and why didn't Rosa Parks just sit at the back of the bus so people

could get home that day? Screw people wanting to get home on the bus.

WHAT.THE. FUCK.

[southernyankeebelle]

10. What the fuck you say. Yep life is so f**king unfair. Get over it. Sorry Lex. But face

they aren't going to boycott the games, period. Lindsey Graham already wanted to try that and Bonner said no way.

[Pab Sungenis]

11. You have a right to say what you want

but not in a support group. Get the fuck out of here.

[Pab Sungenis]

22. LGBT is a support group.

This is a group, not a forum. Groups often serve as safe havens for members who share similar interests and viewpoints.

Anti-gay posts are not welcome here. You can post them all you want in DU, but not here.

[Lex]

12. I wasn't addressing boycotting the games. I was addressing your offensive statement:

"Screw peoples dreams so long the LGBT community gets what they want."

Disgusting comment.

[Pab Sungenis]

14. Maybe you can alert on her post.

I would, but now it takes 6 homophobes instead of just one to re-activate the "LGBT aren't allowed to alert on DU" feature from DU2.

[southernyankeebelle]

18. Are you kidding me. This is how the community works when a person says something

you don't like. Put an alert. Really? I have been told to fuck off and that is ok with you?

[Pab Sungenis]

19. Read the top of the page.

This is a group, not a forum. Groups often serve as safe havens for members who share similar interests and viewpoints.

LGBT is a safe haven support group. Take your homophobia and get out.

[Lex]

21. Why are you whining about getting called on your homophobic comments

IN THE LGBT GROUP?

[Pab Sungenis]

24. Are any of the hosts handy?

If not, can someone bring the Admins in on this? This person needs to be locked out of the group if not off of DU entirely.

[Behind the Aegis]

25. I am the only one right now, and it would be a conlfict of interest for me to act.

I am hoping another LGBT host will step in, but it is family time, so many may not be around.

ETA: DSC popped in, and she has been blocked from the group.

[Pab Sungenis]

27. I'm locked out of alerting on her to the admins

because 6 homophobes voted to keep the original "keep your sex drive at home" post.

Can you escalate it to the Admins, then?

[Behind the Aegis]

31. You may not have seen my edit, dsc took care of it. And for piece of mind....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1137&pid=29477

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Thu Aug 1, 2013, 09:45 PM, and voted 5-1 to HIDE IT.
Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT and said: Hide for name calling and personal attack. I don't like the white on rice crack either.
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT and said: and LGBT group might want to ban SouthernYankeeBelle. I agree that going into a protected group and hassling the members is wrong.

Thank you.

[ZombieHorde]

44. The jury results...

So everyone should be prevented from going and that settles it. Screw peoples
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1137&pid=29459

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This is the lgbt group. It is protected, and homophobic comments such as this have no place here.

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Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: I wouldn't go as far as calling the remark, "homophobic".... It's just insensitive. Assholery aside, I'd leave the idiot's comment.

[Ian David]

56. "Belle" is a misnomer for you. All I see is ugliness. n/t

[Pab Sungenis]

8. "LGBT community gets what they want."

Yeah, like not suffering from genocide?

If the nations of the world had boycotted Munich in 1936 and drawn attention to Hitler's atrocities, maybe things would have come out better.

[Behind the Aegis]

3. This is what you said...exactly...

Sorry. If I had a young man or lady that was my child who worked very hard for years

and maybe this would be his last chance why should anyone say you he shouldn't be allowed to go because of some boycott? How dare anyone want my child to give up their dreams to satisfy your wishes. Everyone should go whether they are straight or gay and do what they are sent there for. Everyone leave their sex drive at home for a week. It won't hurt a bit.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3389052

This was in response to the boycott of the Russian games, which is EXACTLY what I said. Did you know there is more to being gay then who we fuck? And hey, what if you had a gay kid, would that matter to you if they could be arrested for being gay?! Whether you intended it or not, your comment was very offensive, even if you did include straights. The other person who said something similar, did not include straights, but I guess he could claim the same.

[southernyankeebelle]

5. Continue. Everyone should go whether they are straight or gay and do what they are sent there to

do. EVERYONE (I mean gay and straight in case you didn't get that) do what they are sent there to do. Again I said everyone leave your sex drive at home. I meant BOTH sexes. You read what you wanted to read into it. I have a close family member who is gay buddy and I got news for you. Not all gays think alike. He happens to agree with me. He said he wouldn't want a kid who worked many years to give up his dream because he is gay. I call that unselffish. But I see you see it different. That's ok. But because we disagree doesn't mean I hate the gay community and am sick of hearing it. Life is very unfair. Believe me I know how unfair life can be.

By the way I knew your comment would be made by someone just like you. Your offended because I stated what is the truth. I'm sick of hearing how some seem offended. Well the offense works the other way. Put yourself in a persons shoes whose family scarficed everything to help their kid get to the world stage. Yes am offended if you ask me to give that dream up. I would be willing to wear a ribbon and not shop in the local stores to support the gay community. But if I had a kid going well then it is another story. I don't think its fair to ask that of a person.

[Behind the Aegis]

9. I am gay without having an OUNCE of sex!

I read exactly what you said, and I know what it meant. It was offensive. And you are right, not all gay people think alike, and this gay person is saying what you wrote was fucking offensive as hell! Prior to what the Russian lawmaker said, I was against a boycott, but when an implied threat is made against gay athletes, it isn't being selfish, it is being concerned about the safety of gay people, but you see the safety issue as different. That's ok.

ETA: You spoke "the truth?" OK. :eyes" Yes, you are correct though, your "truth" was fucking offensive.

[southernyankeebelle]

13. Just like I said before. If a person says something you don't agree with you all do a mass

jump on. Well sorry your offended I meant no offense. But I am also offended by your comment. But this subject is now closed for me. No matter what I say the wagon has arrived for the attack dogs. So I'm finished talking this subject. Sorry I offended you and leave it at that.

[Behind the Aegis]

15. Keep digging, you are not helping your case at all.

I am sorry you are offended by the truth.

[Vanje]

52. Dude!

She wears RIBBONZ!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1137&pid=29456

[Pab Sungenis]

17. What, we're picking on you now?

YOU CAME INTO OUR PROTECTED GROUP. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE JUMPED UPON GET OFF OUR LAWN.

[Lex]

23. Yes, YOU. nt

[NuclearDem]

61. AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service

Crazy group. I am getting off your lawn you have way to much shit on it.
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This person was called out on her remarks and can not handle it and she goes off on the group. Her homophobia is showing.

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[Vanje]

50. This gay person agrees

This individual was well blocked.
I'm appalled that she is able to continue to spew in the DU community at large.
Has anyone contacted MIRT?

[Behind the Aegis]

51. I am MIRT, but she is outside of our range.

Glad you are back. I missed you!

[Ian David]

58. Start a thread in MIRT to discuss it, and then send Skinner a link to the thread.

There's some trash that needs to be brought to the curb.

[Vanje]

60. Hey. Thanks.

My new secret to the DU experience is to block nearly everyone who really really pisses me off.

[Behind the Aegis]

62. Glad I don't piss you off...yet. heehee

[mitchtv]

86. you've been quiet lately

or is it me?

[Vanje]

88. I've taken a long break from DU.

It was helpful.

[LonePirate]

26. By all means, let one athlete pursue their dreams while another faces jail simply for showing up

Who could support such an event? Straight athletes can embrace their significant others after competing, but if a gay athlete does the same thing, they face the prospect of some gulag in Siberia, if not something worse. They can't talk about their lives publicly or be that beacon of hope and light for other people across the world because they have been forced back into the closet for 2-3 weeks.

I'm sorry, but one person's dreams are secondary to another person receiving basic human decency without facing the stress and pressure in their life as soon as they step onto Russian soil. Yet, according to you, that shouldn't matter because someone else's dreams might not be fulfilled. If American athletes cannot respect or expect the freedom and human dignity of their fellow athletes, then they are serving as pretty poor representations of American values.

[Behind the Aegis]

28. BRAVO!!!!

WAY TO GO!

AWESOME!

YOU ROCK!

[Vanje]

47. BOTH sexes!

Lesbians too?!

[Marrah_G]

71. What you said is fucked up

Yet you keep on digging.

[Tien1985]

6. Ugh that's disgusting

It seems to be that kind of week, this and the pope wearing a speedo to pride comment.

If we're talking about dreams how about the dreams of thousands who wish to see an equitable world where people do the right damn thing and stick up for minorities when they are getting arrested without cause.

[TDale313]

33. Yep, very disturbing.

The "why can't you people just crawl back in your closets for a week so the party can continue as planned without us worrying about people being arrested for spreading gay propaganda" attitude is kinda jaw dropping. The playing the victim card when the expected pushback occurs is infuriating.

[Tien1985]

54. Also, there really

Needs to be some kind of unwritten social understanding that the moment someone uses "I have a ______ family member/friend/pet/mailman and he agrees with me, so you're wrong!" In an argument for basic human rights, that person has lost the argument. For crap's sake, they could at least come up with something better than that.

[TDale313]

59. But, but, but...

Some of my best friends are (fill in the blank) ...

Yeah, pretty pathetic.

[JustFiveMoreMinutes]

29. Anyone know if the poster/s would be Male or Female?

Seems something more Male inclined since the Little Head of Straight People do most of their thinking and wives are just holes for their amusement.

[Pab Sungenis]

32. "belle"

would indicate a woman. That's why I've been referring to her as "she."

But this is the internet. You could be a squirrel hitting keys at random for all we know.

[JustFiveMoreMinutes]

75. Ah, then 'she' must be wearing a 'Sperm Receptacle' Tshirt...

... since evidently she considers herself a sex-toy instead of a full person.

[Niceguy1]

30. one should be careful

When protesting in countries that don't have the fisrt admendment. The penalty can be quite harsh.

[Behind the Aegis]

34. The "protest" for some is actually just being gay.

[mitchtv]

87. all "events" should be well planned and well timed to cause maximum embarassment

with least risk

[William769]

35. Remember the "Sodomites" post?

I sent a PM on that one to the Administrators. This is what I heard.

[Behind the Aegis]

77. Oh yeah! I remember that one!

So it was you! I keep scrolling up and down, swearing I saw the word "sodomite" and couldn't locate it. I was about to run a scan!

[hrmjustin]

36. I hope the hosts consider banning this person from this room.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113729455#post20

[Behind the Aegis]

37. We usually act in concert, this would be an exception.

Since I was actively involved, it wouldn't be proper for me to ban her, but dsc took care of the situation.

[hrmjustin]

38. Glad to hear it.

I can not believe how she went off the rails like that.

[Behind the Aegis]

39. Let's see if the other person who made a similar comment will react the same.

I purposely did not do an exact quote because two posters used a similar remark and I wasn't trying to call out anyone in particular. I was calling out the attitude, which is homophobic and heterosexist, IMO.

[William769]

40. I can. It's not been the first time.

[hrmjustin]

41. I have never really interacted with that poster.

Just infuriating!

[William769]

42. If I remember correctely, the last time was in General discussion.

Incidents like that I never forget.

[hrmjustin]

43. I can not believe a jury kept the original comments 0-6.

[William769]

46. Unfortunately it happens. I alerted on a post in this thread but someone beat me to it & they did

not check TOS (although that would not have done any good).

[pinto]

45. My take -

I'd like to see the USOC support individual athlete's decision, publicly. And support ally teammates who choose to voice support for their teammates who have stood aside in protest of Russia's regressive, inflammatory legislation in re: homosexuality in their country. Sorry Putin, you're on the world stage hosting the Olympics. And gay athletes can use that same stage to shine some light on your repression.

It's called reality, get used to it.

Otherwise, I'd support a boycott. Truth be told, though, I'd rather see the teams enter the stadium with some visible support of their gay teammates whether present or not.

(cross post from - http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3390106 )

[Behind the Aegis]

49. I can agree to a public display.

Despite it being "Godwin", I would prefer to see them all with the Nazi armbands (the triangles, not the swastikas). I don't agree with boycotts of the Olympics in regards to politics, but when the athletes are threatened, then I become really concerned. I am also appalled at the insensitivity some have demonstrated in regards to the treatment of gay people.

[Vinnie From Indy]

48. K&R

That post was reprehensible and I would have voted to hide it! I will stand with LGBT folks on this issue for sure! Good post!

Cheers!

[mitchtv]

53. "the best of DU part 7"

just saying. see youz guyz

[Tien1985]

57. +1

I had completely forgotten about that.

[mitchtv]

65. heh, dig one up

and you'll probably find some familiar characters

[Ian David]

55. If only there was a way to alert on some of the jurors. n/t

[Behind the Aegis]

63. You can...well, kinda...alert on results, and target the juror number.

It goes straight to the admins. But, if it isn't your results, you can copy and paste to the "Ask the Admin" group and pose a request there. (I know you know this, but in case someone else doesn't.)

[dbackjon]

89. That only works for "Chosen" posters

The rest of us, Skinner ignores.


And if the alerted juror was a pet poster, it doesn't matter - they are free to do what they want.

[theHandpuppet]

64. This quote seems appropriate here

“The first question which the priest and the Levite asked was: 'If I stop to help this man, what will happen to me?' But...the good Samaritan reversed the question: 'If I do not stop to help this man, what will happen to him?”

― Martin Luther King Jr.

[Warren DeMontague]

66. Hope you folks don't mind me chiming in here: Fuck that noise. And fuck the bigoted Russian law.

The idea that the stupid fucking Olympics are somehow more important than equality and human rights, is crap.

I stand with my LGBT brothers and sisters, on and off DU.

[Pab Sungenis]

67. You don't have to be LGBT*.* to be in here

just accepting.

[Behind the Aegis]

69. We always apprecaite real allies here!

[Fearless]

70. +1

[Fearless]

68. NOTICE TO EVERYONE: The poster has been blocked from the group.

And several posts have been successfully juried. While not all have, some semblance of order has been restored.

As I'm sure the other hosts would agree, this kind of behavior will never be tolerated in our safe haven group.

-Fearless


And, PS: Don't boycott anything. Show up in droves. Win a whole bunch of medals and stick it to them. And if necessary, pack the fucking jails. Let them eat their words. But most of all, show the LGBT Russian population that they are not alone, they should not be afraid, and they should NEVER give up their human rights.

[Violet_Crumble]

72. I saw one of those posts this morning and was appalled at the jury results...

I saw the jury results posted in the thread and had an internal rage at the jurors who voted to leave that homophobic post alone. This one in particular had me going WTF? Since when has bigotry been 'thought-provoking'? 'The response is disturbing, but thought-provoking. No one was attacked, not TOS were violated. If you disagree, explain why you disagree. We can't hide under the bed every time something scares us.'

There is homophobia at DU, and I'm really sorry posts like that and the other one were left standing. I would have voted to hide both because it's a no-brainer that both were bigoted. That the people who posted them, as well as the majority on each jury can't see it is really disturbing

[William769]

73. The trash has been taken out.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=230521&sub=trans

[Morning Dew]

74. Woot !

Long past time.

[stevenleser]

78. +1000000 T.S version nt

[Ian David]

79. Yay! Good riddance!

[Vanje]

80. Skinner!

Thank you.

[uppityperson]

82. Good. thank you Skinner and I agree, about time.

[Fearless]

83. I knew I'd recognized the sn before

But I couldn't place it until now.

DU2. Ugh, boy do I remember now.

Good choice.

[bullwinkle428]

94. Her relentless defense of Paula Deen should have been enough

of a tip-off for most people, but as the old saying goes, better late than never!

[Smarmie Doofus]

76. It's hard for many straights to jump this hurdle:

>>>Gay people = sex in the minds of some, so-called liberals/progressives/democrats. >>>>

They find out you're gay and they immediately start trying to picture what it is exactly you do in bed.

Whereas we... and they (heteros).... think of straight relationships as friggin' Romeo and Juliet... music and poetry and love everlasting. No tongues, sweat, orifices or "tingly, engorged naughty parts."

But from what I *hear*.... all that stuff's generally involved. But what do I know? Heteros: please confirm.

[Bluenorthwest]

81. This poster once attacked me for living in the NW. Not the real world, the South is

really America. I don't know real America because of my State of residence. This was her opinion.

[Lex]

85. She also attacked North Carolina as being beneath her

and was a complete jackass about it. It's my home state so it got under my skin but I let it go. So she was clearly just trolling posters here trying to find a way to be a douche once she knew anything about them.

[Fearless]

84. I will be removing her from our block list currently

Once ppr'ed we might as well not have to look at the name anymore.

[RKP5637]

90. Gone!!! Excellent!!! They went over the top, way over the top in a protected group. n/t

[Zorra]

91. Finally. Obvious troll is obvious. nt

[Capt. Obvious]

92. K&R

[WorseBeforeBetter]

93. I'm a little late to the party...

and would have missed this had I not just popped over to Ask the Administrators, but GREAT NEWS! I'm amazed SYB lasted as long as she did, but finally, good riddance. If I'm not mistaken, she was chief instigator in that epic "breastfeeding in uniform" thread. Yep, an equal opportunity offender...