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Related: About this forumDenver Church stops funeral when Head Bigot realizes Deceased was a Lesbian
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_27312180/family-lakewood-church-refuses-funeral-service-because-womanA Lakewood minister refused to hold a memorial service on Saturday for a mother of two at his church because the woman was gay, family and friends said Tuesday.
"Her casket was open, flowers laid out and hundreds of people sitting in the pews," supporters said in a Facebook post. "He collected money for the funeral and has yet to return it."
Vanessa Collier was 33 when she died on Dec. 29, leaving behind her wife and children.
"You will not find Jesus at New Hope but you will find hypocrisy," said a sign carried at a demonstration outside the church Tuesday by about four dozen family members and friends.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)I reserve the right to judge that motherf*cker pretty harshly thanks.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Be interesting to follow this for a few days.
https://twitter.com/search?q=Lakewood%20Colorado&src=typd
RationalMan
(96 posts)Jesus walked among sinners of all stripes. He never judged.
Here we have a minister who thinks that Jesus didn't want him to minister to those that are different than him. Jesus never advocated this. Jesus would have been at that memorial service.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,726 posts)Welcome to DU, RationalMan!
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Sadly, lots of what goes on in so-called "Christian" churches nowadays has zero to do with following Jesus and doing what he told us to do.
niyad
(113,600 posts)progressoid
(49,999 posts)shenmue
(38,506 posts)oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)Jesus was massively inclusive.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)with Romans, the poor, tax collectors, the unclean, the sick, criminals...sinners in general.
The religious establishment hated him for that and....surprise!...they still do hate the people Jesus came to save yet they claim to be his followers. SMH
Some things never change.
Historic NY
(37,454 posts)TNNurse
(6,929 posts)Are so much worse than openly evil people.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)This pastor is the brother of 'Houston Lakewood Church's' Joel Osteen so these motherfuckers have a history of this bigoted shit.
http://www.towleroad.com/2007/08/church-denies-n.html
fbc
(1,668 posts)Christians have a right to be close minded a-holes. Her family and friends have the right to not patronize a church that condemns people based on sexual preference. Why are they giving these people money for a funeral in the first place?
niyad
(113,600 posts)Lancero
(3,015 posts)The church was paid in advance. The church was provided a video, a week before the service, to be played during the service showing her life - It included footage of her with her wife.
The church was well aware of her 'lifestyle'. They had ample opportunity to call the family beforehand to cancel. They decided instead to halt the service as it was in progress.
Try justifying it if you wish, but the church had been given ample... well... warning about vanessa's sexuality.
rurallib
(62,460 posts)OneCrazyDiamond
(2,032 posts)That is awful.
niyad
(113,600 posts)OneCrazyDiamond
(2,032 posts)Last paragraph:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/national/wp/2015/01/13/colorado-church-refuses-to-hold-funeral-for-lesbian-woman-after-dispute-over-affectionate-photos/
Collier died on Dec. 30, when her gun went off while she was cleaning it
niyad
(113,600 posts)sarisataka
(18,793 posts)to do with stopping the service?
OneCrazyDiamond
(2,032 posts)I don't see a direct connection. They are both awful, and should not have happened.
sarisataka
(18,793 posts)benld74
(9,911 posts)VA_Jill
(10,008 posts)the church didn't mind taking her money while she was alive....
cstanleytech
(26,332 posts)BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)The funeral-goers refused Chavezs terms and the pastor canceled the ceremony altogether 15 minutes after it was scheduled to start. Fortunately the family and friends gathered were able to move the funeral flowers, programs guests, casket and all to another location nearby.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/colorado-pastor-halts-lesbians-funeral-when-family-refuses-to-hide-all-signs-that-she-was-gay/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
He is a thief and a despicable human being.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)And he's getting it good right now......
NHMofdnever- New Hope Ministries
tjl148
(185 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)people. I wish Americans would wake the F up, and realize what these flock leaders (some) are about, and some are clearly disciples from hell dressed in disguise using their professed religion as a veil.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)JackInGreen
(2,975 posts)could tar, feather, and ride someone out on a rail. This guy deserves to be nailed to that rail, but carrying him out and dumping him in a waller would be just as good.