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The Philosopher

(895 posts)
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 05:14 PM Feb 2012

Virginia school district ponders banning cross-gender dress

from Reuters

A Virginia school district is considering banning cross-gender dressing in a move proponents said aims to protect students from harassment, but which civil liberties and gay rights groups said would amount to an assault on free speech.

Board members said they wanted to protect the children in the school district in Suffolk, about 20 miles from Norfolk, from the types of tragedies such as killings and suicides tied to bullying in other parts of the country.

The proposed dress code would prohibit students from wearing clothing "not in keeping with a student's gender" and that "causes a disruption and/or distracts others from the education process or poses a health or safety concern."

The board opted to pursue the ban after teachers at one of the district's three high schools said some male students were dressing like girls, prompting complaints from other students, district spokeswoman Bethanne Bradshaw said.


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Board Vice Chairwoman Thelma Hinton, in supporting the ban, cited the killing of a 15-year-old California cross-dressing student by another student in 2008 and the suicide of a 14-year-old gay student last year in New York after online bullying.

"When a situation is brought up to me, I'm going to speak out if I have to speak out, and take a stand," Hinton said Thursday at a board meeting, adding that she was more concerned about the safety of the district's 14,000 students than civil rights.

"It has nothing to do with a person's gender -- who they are," Hinton said. "Of course I don't want anyone's rights being violated, but I have done some research."


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After hearing board members offer general support for the ban on Thursday, the state ACLU plans to outline possible legal actions that could follow if it is adopted, Virginia ACLU Executive Director Kent Willis told Reuters.

James Parrish, executive director of Equality Virginia, suggested that district administrators needed education on issues related to lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender students.

"If a girl comes to school wearing jeans and a flannel shirt, is that considered cross-gender dressing?" he told Reuters, adding that a misunderstanding of the issues could actually make the students more susceptible to bullying.

"They're calling it cross-dressing, but if that individual was wearing clothes that reflect their gender identity, that's not cross-dressing, that's appropriate gender dressing," he said.


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Virginia school district ponders banning cross-gender dress (Original Post) The Philosopher Feb 2012 OP
Ruck 'em, if I was a student there, I'd wear my kilt. Ikonoklast Feb 2012 #1
Nice attempt at a band-aid qb Feb 2012 #2
Bad idea. Very bad idea. Initech Feb 2012 #3
After reading the appeals Court decision in Atlanta One_Life_To_Give Feb 2012 #4
Or they could, maybe, um... try to stop the bullying? Zenlitened Feb 2012 #5
No, no, no, stopping bullying makes too much sense. tammywammy Feb 2012 #6
ok... provis99 Feb 2012 #7
Obviously the ban would only be applied to males dressing in cross-gender fashion MNBrewer Feb 2012 #8

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
1. Ruck 'em, if I was a student there, I'd wear my kilt.
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 05:25 PM
Feb 2012

And let the lawyers for the school district try to explain to the court how that is *not* traditional male dress.

qb

(5,924 posts)
2. Nice attempt at a band-aid
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 05:35 PM
Feb 2012


Forcing children to change clothes does nothing to address bullying.

If I remember correctly, there isl an episode in Stephen King's in "On Writing", where he recalls a female classmate who typically wore old clothes and no makeup. She wanted to be like the popular girls, so she got a new hairstyle, clothes, and makeup. The change prompted her classmates to attack her ruthlessly.

If the bullies have it in for an individual, what he or she wears does not matter.

Initech

(100,080 posts)
3. Bad idea. Very bad idea.
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 06:16 PM
Feb 2012

These types of rules and regulations don't protect anybody and in fact actually *PROMOTE* the hate, bullying, and harassment they're trying to stop. Idiots.

One_Life_To_Give

(6,036 posts)
4. After reading the appeals Court decision in Atlanta
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 06:43 PM
Feb 2012

After reading the Judges ruling in the case of Vandy Beth Glenn. The only people who stand to win if this is passed is the lawyers.

http://www.ca11.uscourts.gov/opinions/ops/201014833.pdf

Page 7 Discrimination on the basis of gender non-conformity constitutes sex based discrimination under the equal protection clause.


Zenlitened

(9,488 posts)
5. Or they could, maybe, um... try to stop the bullying?
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 07:46 PM
Feb 2012


Anyway, important point by the ACLU rep regarding a student who might genuinely be TG:

"They're (the school officials) calling it cross-dressing, but if that individual was wearing clothes that reflect their gender identity, that's not cross-dressing, that's appropriate gender dressing," he said.

MNBrewer

(8,462 posts)
8. Obviously the ban would only be applied to males dressing in cross-gender fashion
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 10:51 PM
Feb 2012

Females dressing as males is acceptable, but the reverse must be discouraged at all costs. *sigh*

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