NC GOP: public hanging for abortionists

[niyad]

North Carolina GOP: Public Hanging For Abortionists

by Jessica Pieklo

There’s something about a public hanging that strikes me as very oh, I don’t know, “cruel and unusual” and offensive to every last bit of human decency. Not so for North Carolina Republican Larry Pittman. In fact, Pittman things bringing back public hangings would be a great deterrent for “abortionists, rapists, and kidnappers.”

Pittman expressed this view in an email to every member of the North Carolina General Assembly. From Pittman’s email: “We need to make the death penalty a real deterrent again by actually carrying it out. Every appeal that can be made should have to be made at one time, not in a serial manner,” Pittman wrote in the email. “If murderers (and I would include abortionists, rapists, and kidnappers, as well) are actually executed, it will at least have the deterrent effect upon them. For my money, we should go back to public hangings, which would be more of a deterrent to others, as well.”

Criminalizing abortion is of course the very goal of the right, so it is no surprise to hear that a conservative lawmaker would view abortion providers as criminals. What is more telling is that Pittman’s position is quickly becoming the “center” for the right on the abortion issue. Last year alone Republicans in Nebraska, Iowa and South Carolina all pushed legislation that would essentially criminalize abortion and 2012 promises even more such measures.

And the harder to the right Republicans go on the abortion issue, the more violent their rhetoric. The more violent their rhetoric the more violent their actions. To call Pittman lumping abortion providers in with murderers and rapists as those who are first in line for a public hanging irresponsible would be generous.

Health care providers are not criminals, and it’s time conservatives get a grip and stop trying to treat them as such.

Read more: http://www.care2.com/causes/north-carolina-gop-public-hanging-for-abortionists.html#ixzz1km2XGDfi

[TheMastersNemesis]

1. When Is Enough Enough?

There is no reason to hold back the counterattack against the racist and bigoted Republlcan party. I have mostly eliminated all associations that I can unless they are Democrats. There is nothing absolutely nothing that says that any decent human being can live with these evil bastards.

[Patrick_Bateman]

2. My wife had to terminate

her pregnancy 2 months in. She was so sick, extreme nausea, dehydrated and was diagnosed with Hypermesis Gravidarum. Her body was literally eating itself. Her hair fell out in clumps and she literally wanted to die.

Her misery was tough to bear. After we terminated, she was depressed for months. It could have been a child but at that moment in time it was a potentially fatal medical condition that risked her life! So many republicans believe that abortion is used as birth control and women don't think a lick about it. So unfair. Believe me, I am pleased to have a healthy wife.

BTW, we have a young daughter now who rocks our world!

[TheMastersNemesis]

4. The GOP

The GOP says that you wife would have to die. They support the Catholic church's view that the woman must be sacrificed at all costs. They maintain that stand even if the fetus will NOT survive. I was raised Catholic and never could understand that insane stance.

The GOP would have your wife and her doctor put in prison for life if they had their way. They are determined to make even birth control equivalent to murder with all the "personhood bills" they enthusiastically support. Here in Colorado we are facing voting on that for a 3rd time in 2012. It lost 2 to 1 in the last two go arounds. I guess they believe that with our GOP Secretary Of State fixing the election they will win this time.

Congratulations on your daughter.

[Patrick_Bateman]

5. Quite accurate.

All that was important to me was my wife's health and well being. We do all we can through voting and sharing our story with anyone who will listen to make people aware what the extremist are legislating in the GOP.

[TheMastersNemesis]

6. The Future

I am concerned that it will only get worse. We are facing a movement that will use even more violence to get their way. Obama is still naive in that he thinks he can still talk to Republicans who would do him in given the chance. This bunch is a murderous bunch.

Even though I might be accused of being over the top. I know I am right. As a war veteran I can recognize who the enemy is. The American people are like a domestic dog being confronted by a coyote. They simply do not understand that the country is in fatal danger from the GOP.

The rights of women are under as much threat as if the Taliban themselves were in charge. Unless the public starts attacking the GOP politically from all directions and we put an end to them as a party, our country will slide into GOP totalitarian theocratic fascism. They believe that they have already "fixed" this election. What we are facing is really much more serious than the terrorists. Just examine someone like Sanitorium and all of his dictums and what would happen if they came true. Mitwit Rawmoney is actually worse. He is stupid fool.

[niyad]

9. no, you are not over the top. the assault on women that is the hallmark of the reichwing is growing

every single day. you are absolutely correct that they are as real a threat--and actually more so, than the taliban. the taliban are thousands of miles away, and these hatemongering terrorists are right here.

[niyad]

8. I remember a scene from some movie (whose name I have forgotten) where some priest has to make

the medical decision for his pregnant sister. and yes, he says to let her go, but try to save the fetus. I was very young when I saw it, and absolutely horrified that he could do such a thing. eventually, I got ex-commed for being pro-choice.

the people backing these woman-hating "personhood" amendments, here in CO and elsewhere, say that, no matter how many times they are voted down, they will keep bringing them until they are passed.

[TheMastersNemesis]

14. The Movie

The movie was called "The Cardinal". It was directed by Otto Preminger and starred Tom Tryon and Carol Lynley. I was in a Catholic junior college and Kennedy was president.

In my 16 1/2 years of Catholic education I am more than familiar with ALL of the arguments for such a belief system. The Church has a lot of biblical scholars who help set Catholic dogma. There is a coda of Canon Law that has been established through the popes going back 2100 years. This coda is based on the Bible, writings and letters of the 12 apostles, Aristotelian philosophy, Greek ethics and logic. The coda also gets its sources from such studies as Cosmology, Metaphysics, Ontology, Symobolic Logic and other sophisticated philosophical disciplines.

One ruling body of the Catholic Church is called "The Curia". The Cardinals are the "princes" of the Church. Archbishops and bishops are also the enforcers of Catholic theology.

Other sources of this dogma come from writings of St. Paul, St. Albert, St. Francis and in particular St. Augustine. They are considered early fathers of the Catholic Church. The line of popes from St. Peter (the first pope) have the power to speak "ex cathedra" which means in the name of and authority of God and Christ. "Ex cathedra" teachings are like Islamic fatwas and cannot be questioned and must be accepted in their entirety by the faithful. To remain Catholic one must accept ALL teaching without question.

The arguments for interpretations of the Bible and the coda of developed Divine Law within the Catholic Church are very specific. The "evilangelicals" and "born again Christians" follow the dictates of the Church almost to the letter even though they hate "the papists".

Interestingly, I believe 6 of the 9 Supreme Court Justices are Catholic. Roberts, Scalia, and Alito, are are members of an extremely conservative cult in the Catholic Church called "The Opus Dei". In Latin it means "work of God". That means they are instruments of God's work in behest of the Catholic Church.

I just thought that this information would be helpful in understanding what is going on. The Church is actively trying to effect our public policy in relation to reproductive rights. Yet it and other churches pay NO taxes at all.

[Gormy Cuss]

18. I had the same reaction to that film

I wasn't Roman Catholic but I do credit that film with making me pro-choice.

[niyad]

7. I am sorry that you and your wife went through this, but so glad she is okay, and that you have

a wonderful daughter.

these cretins do not seem to understand, or want us to forget, that pregnancy itself can be a very dangerous, even fatal, condition. but that is okay, apparently, since women are only here to serve as brood mares.

[yellerpup]

3. The Republicon way-back machine wish.

They never tire of trying to turn back the clock.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

10. Prior related threads

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002232981

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002231324

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002230920

[niyad]

12. thank you for pointing out the prior threads, which some of us missed. this is a topic of serious

concern to all of us, so the more coverage, the better, don't you think?

[Patrick_Bateman]

13. Indeed.

This topic is matter of personal importance. I could discuss this every day.

Thanks for the thread.

[niyad]

16. you are most welcome. when we started this latest round of the battle with roe--I didn't think we

would be fighting an even stronger opposition 40 years later.

[niyad]

11. big surprise--this woman-hating cretin is a pastor

[WillyT]

15. K & R !!!

[aquart]

17. But not for bankers?

Really, who aborts more dreams, destroys more lives?