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Eugene

(61,894 posts)
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 10:42 AM Apr 2019

Judge rules New York county can't ban unvaccinated children from schools, parks

Source: Washington Post

Judge rules New York county can’t ban unvaccinated children from schools, parks

By Frances Stead Sellers April 6

Ten days after a New York county banned unvaccinated children from public places in an effort to stem the rise of measles cases, a state judge put the injunction on hold.

“Children are hereby permitted to return to their respective schools forthwith and otherwise to assemble in public places,” Judge Rolf Thorsen wrote in his Friday decision.

The controversial ban, announced by a spokesman for Rockland County Executive Ed Day, was an effort to address an outbreak in Rockland County, where 167 confirmed cases of measles had been reported as of Friday.

Officials in the county declared a state of emergency, as Lindsey Bever reported in The Washington Post last week, announcing that the ban would remain in place for 30 days or until unvaccinated minors receive the MMR vaccine to protect them against measles, mumps and rubella. Unvaccinated minors, official said, would not be permitted in enclosed places like churches, schools and shopping centers.

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Thorsen’s decision, Reiss said, rested on the question of whether the outbreak was an emergency. With an outbreak of such a highly contagious virus, she said, “There is a reasonable argument that it is an emergency.”

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Judge rules New York county can't ban unvaccinated children from schools, parks (Original Post) Eugene Apr 2019 OP
So One Group Can Endanger The Entire Community? Me. Apr 2019 #1
Look at the population statistics, they tend to pander to religious groups..... Historic NY Apr 2019 #2
So they don't vaccinate against anything? greymattermom Apr 2019 #3
If you knew anything about the Hasidic community where this is going on customerserviceguy Apr 2019 #6
I used to live in Orange County, near Kiryas Joel, but not near enough phylny Apr 2019 #7
Well, then, how many immune-compromised folks dying will comprise a big enough crisis to catbyte Apr 2019 #4
Good question, but immune compromised PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2019 #5

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
2. Look at the population statistics, they tend to pander to religious groups.....
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 11:10 AM
Apr 2019

meanwhile the cases rise daily, including the maternity wing of a hospital. Apparently the Judge feel that the needs of a few outweighs the health & safety of the many.

[link:https://www.lohud.com/story/news/local/rockland/2019/04/05/measles-nyack-hospital-exposures-announced/3376312002/|]

[link:https://www.lohud.com/story/news/local/rockland/2019/04/06/measles-whats-next-after-judge-halts-rockland-emergency-declaration/3385858002/|]

Seems the Health Commissioner order stands.

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
3. So they don't vaccinate against anything?
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 11:20 AM
Apr 2019

Won't one of the really bad diseases catch up with them soon? Is this their chosen method of population control since they don't allow abortion or birth control?

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
6. If you knew anything about the Hasidic community where this is going on
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 03:18 PM
Apr 2019

(I used to live there), you'd know that the words, "population control" are not in their vocabulary.

phylny

(8,380 posts)
7. I used to live in Orange County, near Kiryas Joel, but not near enough
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 06:14 PM
Apr 2019

to be threatened with our land being taken over. The community has a ton of clout, partially because they vote as a bloc.

catbyte

(34,386 posts)
4. Well, then, how many immune-compromised folks dying will comprise a big enough crisis to
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 11:23 AM
Apr 2019

qualify as "an emergency?" I'm so sick of ignorant, arrogant, entitled people threatening the health of others.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,857 posts)
5. Good question, but immune compromised
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 12:24 PM
Apr 2019

people are a small enough percentage of the population, that no one will really notice if they start dying in large numbers. Plus, I'm guessing for the most part many of the immune compromised are sufficiently savvy and careful that they aren't often around those who don't vaccinate. Also, if the immune compromised either had the childhood diseases in their youth, or were vaccinated themselves, their risk isn't as bad as it might be.

Whereas unvaccinated kids who get measles or whatever are more or less grouped together in schools, and so when they get sick it's very noticeable.

Religious objections to vaccinations should be eliminated. There are kids who cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons, but if everyone else is, they'll be reasonably safe.

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