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Dulcinea

(9,493 posts)
Mon Nov 24, 2025, 06:51 AM 17 hrs ago

'Nobody wants to come': What if the U.S. can no longer attract immigrant physicians?

(NPR) Michael Liu grew up in Toronto, Canada, then moved to the U.S. for college and medical school because, to him, America was the premiere destination for fulfilling his aspirations to become a physician and researcher.

"You know, in chase of the American Dream, and understanding all the opportunities — that was such a draw for me," says Liu, who attended Harvard University. He is now 28 and has deep personal and professional roots in Boston, where he's an internal medicine resident at Mass General Brigham.

But this spring, he was shaken by the Trump administration's cuts to scientific research at the National Institutes of Health and staff at the Department of Health and Human Services. "That was a really striking moment for me," Liu says. "It made me question where, professionally, it made most sense for me. I still have strong connections to Toronto and mentors."

Then, in September, Liu was doing rounds with two doctors from Mexico and Costa Rica, when the administration hiked fees nearly 30 fold for H1B visas, which are for highly trained professionals, to $100,000. He watched his colleagues' tearful reactions to the sudden uncertainty that thrust on their careers, knowing that employers like hospital systems are unlikely to be able to afford to pay for such dramatic increases.

https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/11/24/nx-s1-5618291/immigrant-physicians-foreign-born-doctors-trump-h1b

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'Nobody wants to come': What if the U.S. can no longer attract immigrant physicians? (Original Post) Dulcinea 17 hrs ago OP
Make Med School Free OC375 15 hrs ago #1
Immigrant doctor numbers in the USA are around 50%. twodogsbarking 15 hrs ago #2
Trump is trying to collapse everything that is good in our nation. nt Trueblue Texan 15 hrs ago #3
Not just everything "good".... mountain grammy 14 hrs ago #9
All according to plan. OldBaldy1701E 15 hrs ago #4
And nurses ... Bmoboy 15 hrs ago #5
So true ninjanurse 14 hrs ago #12
we'll die off quicker without health care. barbtries 15 hrs ago #6
it's definitely active eugenics where they are trying to kill off anyone they deem as weak LymphocyteLover 14 hrs ago #8
it will. barbtries 14 hrs ago #11
I feel that, as I am getting up there too. But I do feel a major backlash coming and feel like this regime is not going LymphocyteLover 8 hrs ago #15
Who will clean up the mess ninjanurse 14 hrs ago #13
this psychopathic evil administration DOES NOT CARE LymphocyteLover 14 hrs ago #7
The Talibanization of the USA NBachers 14 hrs ago #10
A contrarian view OrangeJoe 13 hrs ago #14

OldBaldy1701E

(9,609 posts)
4. All according to plan.
Mon Nov 24, 2025, 08:16 AM
15 hrs ago

Immigrants are more likely to have morals and to vote blue.

That and the regime wants to make healthcare only available to the rich.

All according to plan.

Bmoboy

(581 posts)
5. And nurses ...
Mon Nov 24, 2025, 08:46 AM
15 hrs ago

And staff for nursing homes, home care aides, X ray techs, medical assistants, etc.

It's not just the surgeons and researchers, it's all the support staff that actually provide the day to day personal care.

Immigrants provide the backbone of American health care.

That's one way to reduce the population, especially those old people who are sucking up those Social Security and Medicare dollars.

ninjanurse

(120 posts)
12. So true
Mon Nov 24, 2025, 09:11 AM
14 hrs ago

We are poaching nurses from other countries where they are needed, and for recent immigrants to the US, health care is a good employment option. We are lucky we have so many immigrants interested and able to fill health care jobs, because there has been a nursing shortage for decades and this administration is making the work less attractive with job insecurity. We need to fix the first rungs of the nursing ladder so there is opportunity for everyone who has the right stuff to advance to more training and better pay. Then we won’t have a shortage of workers, but will they find jobs?

barbtries

(31,002 posts)
6. we'll die off quicker without health care.
Mon Nov 24, 2025, 08:51 AM
15 hrs ago

i'm convinced this is their plan.

they've already killed around 600,000 people by destroying USAID.

LymphocyteLover

(9,108 posts)
8. it's definitely active eugenics where they are trying to kill off anyone they deem as weak
Mon Nov 24, 2025, 09:05 AM
14 hrs ago

I can only hope it backfires and bites them in the ass hard

barbtries

(31,002 posts)
11. it will.
Mon Nov 24, 2025, 09:10 AM
14 hrs ago

they don't seem to realize that when they take it all down they will go down with it.

all i'm unsure of is how long. how long, how long, how long. I'm 70 and not convinced I will live to see the restoration of democracy in the USA.

LymphocyteLover

(9,108 posts)
15. I feel that, as I am getting up there too. But I do feel a major backlash coming and feel like this regime is not going
Mon Nov 24, 2025, 03:35 PM
8 hrs ago

to last too much longer in their current form. Maybe not even another year.

OrangeJoe

(546 posts)
14. A contrarian view
Mon Nov 24, 2025, 10:21 AM
13 hrs ago

I’ll probably get grief for this but here goes. I think it is morally wrong for the US to recruit skilled individuals from both middle income and especially lower income countries. These nations spend scarce resources educating outstanding individuals and then just when they are ready to help their communities we come along and dangle piles of dollars in front of them.

Note I don’t blame the people accepting these jobs I blame greedy America for poaching them and leaving their countries in even more dire straits.

I spent most of my career working in developing countries and no matter how much people here cry about shortages of skilled professionals you’ve never experienced anything like a real shortage of doctors or engineers.

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