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SheltieLover

(73,557 posts)
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 02:08 PM Jun 2025

I just learned of a new non-12-step program that friends tell me is fabulous

https://recoverydharma.org/

Based on meditation and the principles of Buddhism.

The 12-Step programs do not work for everyone, so here is an alternative for those of you who might fall into that group.

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I just learned of a new non-12-step program that friends tell me is fabulous (Original Post) SheltieLover Jun 2025 OP
Most therapists strive to adjust people to society. usonian Jun 2025 #1
Very true. Many people take exception to giving up power in 12-step progams SheltieLover Jun 2025 #2
There's one in my town! Thank you SL. I may check out a meeting. Clouds Passing Jun 2025 #3
Check it out, Clouds, & let us know what you think. SheltieLover Jun 2025 #4
I will. Clouds Passing Jun 2025 #8
A lot of people don't feel like they fit in 12-step programs. SheltieLover Jun 2025 #11
Here is a helpful meditation to relieve anxiety I use. multigraincracker Jun 2025 #5
Ty, MGC SheltieLover Jun 2025 #6
I loooove Meditative Mind. I do the chakra meditations, chants and solfeggios. Thanks for posting mgc! Clouds Passing Jun 2025 #7
I was walking around in the Hollywood hills in 1967 and I heard this coming from a house. multigraincracker Jun 2025 #9
A former roommate was a buddhist. She did the chant. I should have started then! Clouds Passing Jun 2025 #10
For some reason I always remembered the words. Much later I started saying them. multigraincracker Jun 2025 #12
They flow so beautifully Clouds Passing Jun 2025 #13
Life is strange. multigraincracker Jun 2025 #14
Me too with the Tao te Ching. Also tai chi as a form of moving meditation. Clouds Passing Jun 2025 #16
30 years ago I took a class in tai chi. multigraincracker Jun 2025 #17
Highly recommended Clouds Passing Jun 2025 #18
Seniorplanet.org has free classes online daily, incl tai chi SheltieLover Jun 2025 #22
Thank you for the link. multigraincracker Jun 2025 #15
Yw! SheltieLover Jun 2025 #20
I think it's been around for a while. bif Jun 2025 #19
Yup. SheltieLover Jun 2025 #21

usonian

(20,321 posts)
1. Most therapists strive to adjust people to society.
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 03:05 PM
Jun 2025

But in many ways, society is deluded and tells us stories about ourselves that are manipulative, like "You've got to be rich or you're a nobody" or the common: "You're born a failure and can never find happiness" and so on.

These really are manipulative, and we largely accept them.

The Buddha addressed not just the symptoms of our problems, but the root of our problems, such as the fleeting nature of things, while we try to cling to them, and the stories we are taught, in which we are "stamped" as weak and doomed, when in fact the story he tells is one of inner light and infinite potential. (In the Lotus Sutra)

But on a simpler plane, if the world practiced just 4 of the 8 steps on the path, it would be a much richer and happy place.

From the free book there:

1. Wise Understanding
2. Wise Intention
3. Wise Speech
4. Wise Action

Wow. Imagine. 🪷

Wishing everyone success and happiness, because we are not so isolated as society says (for profit). We're all in this world together and can join hands to pull each other up, or not.

SheltieLover

(73,557 posts)
2. Very true. Many people take exception to giving up power in 12-step progams
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 03:16 PM
Jun 2025

I love the dynamics of empowerment in this recovery progrsm & in Buddhism in General.

Very healthy stuff!

Tyvm for sharing!



SheltieLover

(73,557 posts)
4. Check it out, Clouds, & let us know what you think.
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 04:00 PM
Jun 2025

A friend attended one & said first 15 min is a mindfulness meditation, followed by a discussion of Buddhist principles &, presumably, how to apply them in everyday life.

SheltieLover

(73,557 posts)
11. A lot of people don't feel like they fit in 12-step programs.
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 04:25 PM
Jun 2025

They work for a lot of people & others not so much.

Whatever works for you!

I think you will like it.

multigraincracker

(36,257 posts)
5. Here is a helpful meditation to relieve anxiety I use.
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 04:01 PM
Jun 2025

I got clean in 1990, went to 3 meetings and never went back. I didn't have a higher power. Found out I was self medicating, and found a better way. I still have some anxiety and depression and have found this very helpful. Get comfortable, turn down the lights and relax to this Buddhist meditation.

Clouds Passing

(5,720 posts)
7. I loooove Meditative Mind. I do the chakra meditations, chants and solfeggios. Thanks for posting mgc!
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 04:11 PM
Jun 2025

multigraincracker

(36,257 posts)
9. I was walking around in the Hollywood hills in 1967 and I heard this coming from a house.
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 04:15 PM
Jun 2025

Someone came out and asked if I'd like to come in and that's how I learned it.

multigraincracker

(36,257 posts)
14. Life is strange.
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 06:02 PM
Jun 2025

I’m more of a student of the Tao te Ching, but has a lot of interest Buddhism.
One time the Dali Lama was in town giving an interesting talk. During the question period a person commented that it was all so complicated and his Holiness said, it is very simple-Be Nice.

Clouds Passing

(5,720 posts)
16. Me too with the Tao te Ching. Also tai chi as a form of moving meditation.
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 09:07 AM
Jun 2025

I become trancelike when I am in flow with the movements of myself and the group. We can all feel it when we’re in sync with each other. It’s very cool 😎

multigraincracker

(36,257 posts)
17. 30 years ago I took a class in tai chi.
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 12:29 PM
Jun 2025

Did it for about a year or so. Have time now, may take it up again.

bif

(26,217 posts)
19. I think it's been around for a while.
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 04:53 PM
Jun 2025

I attend SMART recovery meetings, because I'm an agnostic and the whole God thing about AA really bugs me. Been doing them for 6 1/2 years. Whatever works, I always say.

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