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bucolic_frolic

(43,172 posts)
Tue Jul 5, 2022, 10:48 AM Jul 2022

I'm just gonna throw this out there

Transference is one of the most devious and unnecessary aspects of psychology. There are countless tales online of people who bought into the deception and were unable to disconnect, or felt harmed, or suffer long term emotional pain because they accepted the delusion and thought it was real. Some, worse, became involved with their therapists. Pulling on people's heart strings for medical care? To me an absurdity and avoidable if full disclosure occurred up front. The idea that it's good and is the only way to work on vulnerabilites in a therapeutic environment?

Jeffrey Masson's "Final Analysis" revealed a lot about the psychology profession by exposing Freud's compromises with Victorian high society. In my view, Masson did a great service to the misled masses.

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I'm just gonna throw this out there (Original Post) bucolic_frolic Jul 2022 OP
'Au contraire' empedocles Jul 2022 #1
He said it best bucolic_frolic Jul 2022 #2
Sigmund Freud has had a huge number of assertive 'analyses', over the years. empedocles Jul 2022 #3
And Freud's was his own opinion, yet we treat it as bedrock. He was first. That is all. bucolic_frolic Jul 2022 #5
Biggest scam on earth. Anon-C Jul 2022 #4
A real shame C.G. Jung doesn't get as much attention as fraud Freud. SheltieLover Jul 2022 #6

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
1. 'Au contraire'
Tue Jul 5, 2022, 11:07 AM
Jul 2022

" . . . In summary, as riveting a tale as Masson's maybe, we are nevertheless
compelled to conclude that it has no bearing on the scientific issues with whi ch
psychoanalysis concerns itself, owing to the inherent invalidity of ad hominem
arguments. Furthermore, Masson's case is weakened by his misunderstandi ng of
Freud's views on seduction and external reality, of the essence of the seduction
theory as Freud formulated it.
Finally, the imposing challenge of integrating the events of Freud's personal
life with the development of his ideas, in addition to assessing the accuracy of
Masson 's characterological data , remains to be met. In my opinion, it would be
most fruitfully undertaken by a psychologist of genius possessing not only the
requisite skills for historical investigation, but also a thorough understanding of
psychoanalysis.


https://jdc.jefferson.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1140&context=jeffjpsychiatry

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
3. Sigmund Freud has had a huge number of assertive 'analyses', over the years.
Tue Jul 5, 2022, 11:17 AM
Jul 2022

Perhaps, not as many as Thomas Jefferson.

Much opinionating.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
6. A real shame C.G. Jung doesn't get as much attention as fraud Freud.
Tue Jul 5, 2022, 12:36 PM
Jul 2022

Inconvenient as one has to dig deep & be aware. 😏

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