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DFW

(54,372 posts)
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 06:33 PM Nov 2022

Just on general priciple........

Because of my cholesterol situation, we eat a lot of fish. Now, fish is rather expensive here in Germany, so we are fortunate to be able to afford it. Comparing the cost of Monkfish, a favorite here in Europe, it is about €6 per 100 grams, where down in Spain, it is €23 for a whole Kilogram, or €2.30 per hundred grams.

But our local fishmonger here saves the bite-sized pieces off of filets that were just too big for someone's liking. It is very German to ask for a piece of fish weighing 300 grams, and if there are 20 grams over, they will say, no, I only want the 300 grams, and the vendor has to cut off that tiny piece that no one will buy by itself.

So, late in the morning on farmers market days, he tosses the scraps into a dish, and sells the 300 or 400 so grams of meat for 6 euros, more than enough to feed the both of us. Last Saturday, it was filet of Salmon, Cod, and Monkfish. My wife said it's ridiculous NOT to buy that, so she did, and we had a gourmet cheapo feast.

You can only get this if you have a fish counter where big pieces come in regularly, and customers buy exactly what they want, but in a country where the cost of food is anything BUT cheap, there are still bargains to be had. We don't HAVE to do this, but no one says we can't, either! Most Germans wouldn't touch an offer like that out of general principle, though the same people would order it for €30 at a fancy restaurant labeled "mixed seafood grill." Go figure.

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Just on general priciple........ (Original Post) DFW Nov 2022 OP
Usually I'm not a fan of fish stories... unweird Nov 2022 #1
The one that didn't get away.......... n/t DFW Nov 2022 #2
I had a job with lunch provided. Tetrachloride Nov 2022 #3
I love most fish--thanks for the story! Nt spooky3 Nov 2022 #4
Do you care for sardines? Small fish that are heart healthy. I love Norwegen Brislings the mitch96 Nov 2022 #5
I WISH I liked sardines DFW Nov 2022 #10
Humm How do you feel about salted Norwegian Cod? The Portuguese love their cod... mitch96 Nov 2022 #12
There aren't many cod dishes I DON'T like DFW Nov 2022 #15
From what i've read there is a 24 hour "de salting" process and most times the cod has NO salt mitch96 Nov 2022 #16
Our main fish guy here has some arrangement with agents for a few small boats DFW Nov 2022 #17
Sounds like you are a candidate for a Mediterian style diet.. A good book I read years ago was mitch96 Nov 2022 #18
We're aware of it, and we sometimes come close to adhering to it DFW Nov 2022 #20
Sounds like you are on the right path... what ever "right" is...😉..nt mitch96 Nov 2022 #21
If you ever find out, let me know! n/t DFW Nov 2022 #22
In the US they would put them on a skewer and sell it for double the price by weight Major Nikon Nov 2022 #6
This particular guy is only still in business due to his entrepreneurial spirit DFW Nov 2022 #9
I was joking about the differences to the US Major Nikon Nov 2022 #13
The larger ones aren't set up to give a rat's ass, you're quite right. DFW Nov 2022 #14
Back in New England, it was salmon and cod cheeks Warpy Nov 2022 #7
Good question DFW Nov 2022 #8
OMG a cod cheek po'boy would be out of this world...nt mitch96 Nov 2022 #11
Just call me "Ish" DFW Nov 2022 #19

Tetrachloride

(7,839 posts)
3. I had a job with lunch provided.
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 07:00 PM
Nov 2022

i didn’t like Ramen Wednesdays, so the chef started me with plates of leftovers. Fantastic.

mitch96

(13,895 posts)
5. Do you care for sardines? Small fish that are heart healthy. I love Norwegen Brislings the
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 11:24 PM
Nov 2022

best. Alton Brown has a good recipe for Sherry vinegar sardines on toast. YUM!!
https://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/alton-brown/sherried-sardine-toast-recipe-1949095
I suppose if you can't get avocado you can use pumpkin or squash instead. Hummus?.YMMV
I don't eat much meat for health reasons and when I do it's usually fish.. Good omega 3 fats
in sardines, mackerel and salmon.. Cold water fish...
m

mitch96

(13,895 posts)
12. Humm How do you feel about salted Norwegian Cod? The Portuguese love their cod...
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 09:29 AM
Nov 2022

The salting gives the cod a unique texture and flavor.. A good washing de salts the fish.
A thought...
m

https://www.simplyrecipes.com/recipes/portuguese_salt_cod_stew_bacalhoada/

https://www.saveur.com/salt-cod-recipes-gallery/

DFW

(54,372 posts)
15. There aren't many cod dishes I DON'T like
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 09:47 AM
Nov 2022

I'm not a big fan of salt, but if it tastes good, I'm a fan no matter what. That goes against the cardiologist's admonition, by the way: "if it tastes good, spit it out!"

mitch96

(13,895 posts)
16. From what i've read there is a 24 hour "de salting" process and most times the cod has NO salt
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 11:03 AM
Nov 2022

to speak of. Some recipes even say to add some salt!!
I can't get salt cod where I live so it's mail order for me...
m

DFW

(54,372 posts)
17. Our main fish guy here has some arrangement with agents for a few small boats
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 11:19 AM
Nov 2022

These boats regularly make the Iceland-Hamburg run. When they dock, the fish is cut up and immediately put on ice for trucking to the various markets around Germany that they serve. Skrei (Norwegian cod) is one of their specialties. The price varies widely, presumably with the availability. After my cardiac near-miss in 2004, my wife was called in for a bedside conference, and my "new rules" were laid out: red meat, bad. Fish, good (except crustaceans and invertebrates). Poultry, acceptable. Among my favorite fish are, of course, crustaceans and invertebrates (i.e. squid and octopus).

Almost all the fish we eat is fresh from the boats, same with when we're in Cape Cod. It helps that my wife is an expert gourmet chef. She could probably make last week's hot dogs taste like a $75 main course, so you can imagine what she can do with a fresh Skrei filet. As long as we have an ample supply of fresh ginger, garlic, onions, olive oil, Hungarian Paprikas (or Cajun spice), and black pepper, we'll never run out of ways to make almost any fish taste like it came from some five star place in San Ferancisco or New Orleans.

mitch96

(13,895 posts)
18. Sounds like you are a candidate for a Mediterian style diet.. A good book I read years ago was
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 11:32 AM
Nov 2022

about the Blue zones around the world. It's about the people around the world that live a long and healthy life right up to the end...
https://www.bluezones.com
The regions are
Loma Linda, California, United States.
Nicoya Peninsula, Costa Rica.
Sardinia, Italy.
Ikaria, Greece.
Okinawa, Japan.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_zone
I've been trying to eat and exercise this way for most of my life..
Then again nobody's perfek
I feel great, no meds and hope it works. BTW I'm 73..
m

DFW

(54,372 posts)
20. We're aware of it, and we sometimes come close to adhering to it
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 01:09 PM
Nov 2022

But my wife and I both like to vary the styles and tastes. She makes plenty of Mediterranean-style dishes, but she also likes to make Indian style dishes, northern German style fish (dill and herbs), BBQ Texan style chicken, Japanese style terriyaki, Stroganoff (chicken, due to my beef restriction), veggie dishes with Indian Brinjal Pickle and eggplant slices, and a LOT of etc. Sometimes, we'll just boil large atichokes (one for each), and eat them with olive oil and sea salt.

No matter whether what we're eating is good or bad for us, the chances of tomorrow's dinner being similar are practically zip.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
6. In the US they would put them on a skewer and sell it for double the price by weight
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 11:37 PM
Nov 2022

You have to hand it to the Germans for their efficiency and precision, but they seem to be lacking in the old entrepreneurial spirit.

DFW

(54,372 posts)
9. This particular guy is only still in business due to his entrepreneurial spirit
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 03:36 AM
Nov 2022

He had a seafood shop here in town until his landlord decided he could rent the place out for double, and gave the guy an ultimatum. The guy couldn’t make expenses at double rent. He was forced to close it. So he got himself a mobile shop truck, and now sets up at outdoor farmers markets six days a week, three of them in our town. He works his ass off, and finds it a more efficient use of his time to be rid of his excess bits quickly, and give his customers a break every mow and then. We certainly buy from him whenever we can. Although the outdoor market stands are in general more expensive than the supermarkets, we still try to support them when we can. It’s an 800 year old tradition here, and a meeting point for friends to get together as well. The market is held in the center square in town, which is surrounded by several cafés and bakeries.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
13. I was joking about the differences to the US
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 09:39 AM
Nov 2022

Where small business that would do that sort of thing get squeezed out by larger ones who will throw things like that out before ever cutting you a deal

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
7. Back in New England, it was salmon and cod cheeks
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 12:26 AM
Nov 2022

which is exactly what the sign said, the strong masseter muscle that allows a fish to chomp down on its pr I found them a little chewier than cubed fillets, but they made fantastic chowder. They were cheap, a lot of people feel queasy about eating anything off a fish's face.

Ask your fish guy about those if you love fish chowder.

DFW

(54,372 posts)
8. Good question
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 03:23 AM
Nov 2022

I can even pronounce “Kabeljaubacken,” which most non-Germans have to work at. That’s how “cod cheeks” would be said here.

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