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kurtzapril4

(1,353 posts)
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 11:02 PM Jan 2013

The knife and the mandoline.

People who know me well know that I am very capable in the kitchen. Oh, I’m an okay cook, but what I really excel at is maiming myself. Cuts, burns, tripping over cats…I can do it all. Watching me in the kitchen is rather like watching a Peckinpah movie….lots of spurting blood and profanity.

Why, just last week I almost excised the tip of one of my fingers whilst cutting potatoes. The knife is on my shit list. It is on a time out. It is in the dish strainer, glinting at me as I type. She devil! It’s probably a bad thing that I have my back to it at this time. A few months ago, Dan bought me a mandoline. A mandoline is a food cutting device that gives you neat, uniform slices of food, which helps insure that each slice cooks at the same rate. I haven’t used it because it is sharp. Very, very sharp. I am afraid of it like I am afraid of power tools and people educated in northern Europe.*

Last night, I was going to cook a dish that required julienned carrots. I was going to have to make a terrible decision. The knife….or the mandoline. Now, the knife is a known. I know that using it will cause some small blood loss, and some very bad words. It’s a comforting routine. The mandoline is so sharp that I know that even a hint of an inkling of a twinge of a thought of using it will cause my fingers to start bleeding spontaneously. But I also know that it will give me neat, uniform slices of my fingers, which will insure that each slice cooks at the same rate. So I choose the mandoline.

The mandoline came with an instruction booklet. It must be made by Ikea, because there are no words, only pictures. This is not good. I figured it would come with an instructional DVD. The box was certainly big enough. I mean, everything comes with an instructional DVD these days. There was one in the last set of bath towels I bought, I’ll have you know. The mandoline comes with a few different sets of blades, which when used in their various configurations gives you different results. Slice, crinkle cut, and julienne, which is the one I wanted. Now the pictures show the blades easily being popped out and moved around into these various configurations. Well sure! An hour, a screwdriver and some percussive finesse later, I had the correct configuration of blades set up.

This infernal machine came with a finger guard. It’s a disc with four sharp prongs on the bottom of it. You impale the food to be cut on the prongs, and then slide the food down, and over the blades. Your fingers are protected. Carrots are long and skinny. The prongs are an inch or so apart. So the carrots kept falling off the prongs, and I had to keep re-sticking them. Did I mention that the prongs are very sharp? I l have a sheet of paper towel that proves it. After some wailing and gnashing of teeth, and some swearing, I very gingerly passed the carrots over the blades by hand until I had enough. I am still not sure whether all the sweating I was doing was from terror or hot flashes.

I then had to clean the machine, a process which, judging by the illustrations in the booklet was fraught with danger. I was able to nick my finger by merely thinking about pulling the blades out and cleaning them.

All in all, I’d have to say that my first mandoline experience was okay. Not too much blood was lost, which is a good thing, because normally by this point I’d be a bit woozy and a quart low. I think I’ll use the mandoline more often. I worry, though, what will happen if the knife finds out about it. I’ll start banking some of my own blood now, just in case.

*Unlike the US, Europe seems to have a great education system. Ergo, they’re smarter than me. Ergo, I’m afraid of them.

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The knife and the mandoline. (Original Post) kurtzapril4 Jan 2013 OP
Knife safety is something that takes a lot of vigilance Major Nikon Jan 2013 #1
One thing I realized after doing homemade slasher plots Warpy Jan 2013 #2
Brilliant post! Glassunion Jan 2013 #3
Thank you, Glassunion! kurtzapril4 Jan 2013 #9
If you're prone to kitchen accidents, the mandoline is no tool for you. Stinky The Clown Jan 2013 #4
Kevlar gloves. I won't use a mandoline without one on my hand. Retrograde Jan 2013 #5
My s/o bought me a kevlar glove kurtzapril4 Jan 2013 #10
+1 Retrograde. Jazzgirl Jan 2013 #14
I am rating this post 10 ++ auntAgonist Jan 2013 #6
Thank you very much, auntAgonist! kurtzapril4 Jan 2013 #13
I cook for a living, and I have cut myself exactly once with a knife Scootaloo Jan 2013 #7
I think I'm probably kurtzapril4 Jan 2013 #11
Raises (bloody) hand murpheeslaw Jan 2013 #20
Sliced carrots - buy the frozen version csziggy Jan 2013 #8
I love Good Eats! kurtzapril4 Jan 2013 #15
MMM, that sounds good! csziggy Jan 2013 #16
Well done! I am also afraid of my mandoline and have used it only once cbayer Jan 2013 #12
So it that what they mean when chefs say they "put a little of themselves into every dish?" guardian Jan 2013 #17
sur iz hrd tping w ths stmpzs -- MFM th kltzz MiddleFingerMom Jan 2013 #18
Oh lord, can I relate. Lugnut Jan 2013 #19
I have a mandoline Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #21
thank you very much, mojorabbit! kurtzapril4 Jan 2013 #22

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
1. Knife safety is something that takes a lot of vigilance
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 11:17 PM
Jan 2013

One of the worst times I ever cut myself was with a mandoline and I was using the hand guard.

Warpy

(111,336 posts)
2. One thing I realized after doing homemade slasher plots
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 11:27 PM
Jan 2013

was that bigger knives resulted in fewer lacerations. I discovered this when I got a Chinese cookbook that was very persuasive about developing skills with the Chinese cleaver. I found that using the cleaver to peel ginger and fresh water chestnuts was a snap and I kept all five fingers. Peeling them with a peeler had been most unsatisfactory.

The next thing I got along that line was a $2.95 mandoline at a Chinese grocery. I still use it for angel hair coleslaw. It didn't come with a finger guard but did come with instructions in Chinese, illustrated, that promised loss of limbs if one didn't stay vigilant while using it.

I graduated to a real mandoline with a food grabber. Yes, it's not much good for carrots, but practice with the Chinese job has allowed me to survive without grating my fingers.

I could, of course, use the food processor for all this stuff (except peeling water chestnuts and ginger), but it's a lot more trouble to clean than knife or mandolin are.

Still, if one is lacking practice with this gear and still bleeding profusely into the food, styptic pencils and Nu Skin can work real wonders in the kitchen, the former to stop the bleeding and the latter to cover the wound.

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
3. Brilliant post!
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 11:35 PM
Jan 2013

However, unlike you the knife is my friend. I respect the knife as if its a frothing badger who has been cornered. Not that scary unless you move suddenly. I whack out a mountain of diced onions, carrots or potatoes without any issue. Just don't startle the badger.

My kitchen nemesis is heat. Want to lay a filet in a searing pan of oil... Let me spit some hot oil in your face. Want to drop some potatoes in a searing pan... Let me sear the skin off your knuckles. Want to broil some scallops... Let me make you forget that your stainless pan was in a 500 degree oven as you grab the handle of the pan and now your palm is branded with with a mirror image of the words "all clad".

My father's nemesis is the same as yours. The sharp knife. If you stacked all the skin he ever lost off his knuckles, it ISS would have to adjust its orbit. My nemesis is heat. I think every chef/cook has an enemy. Some are powered kitchen tools, some fire or heat, others sharp implements, and some the kitchen itself. I came home once to find my wife with angel food cake batter on her back. Her nemesis is the hand mixer. At least she cleaned it off the ceiling and cabinets.

kurtzapril4

(1,353 posts)
9. Thank you, Glassunion!
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 12:05 PM
Jan 2013

Your reply made me laugh hard. I like the line "I respect the knife as if it's a frothing badger who has been cornered."

My neighbor bought me a pressure cooker for Christmas. Gulp. Stay tuned for that story, if I live to tell it.

Stinky The Clown

(67,818 posts)
4. If you're prone to kitchen accidents, the mandoline is no tool for you.
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 11:37 PM
Jan 2013

They are dangerous in skilled hands. If you're unsure of yourself, it is best you avoid working with it. By the way, worse than a big, ultra sharp, professional mandoline is a kinda sharp, less than *really* sturdy amateur mandoline.

You might want to think about a mezzaluna. It forces your hands to be out of the danger zone. The downside is, while it is excellent for chopping, it isn't very good for slicing.

Retrograde

(10,153 posts)
5. Kevlar gloves. I won't use a mandoline without one on my hand.
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 12:01 AM
Jan 2013

I've run my gloved hand over the blade - not a scratch. I find them easier to use than the guard that came with the device: you can hold the carrots and run them down to the nub.

We got ours IIRC from Amazon.

kurtzapril4

(1,353 posts)
10. My s/o bought me a kevlar glove
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 12:09 PM
Jan 2013

because of my bloody wars with my chef knife. Do I forget to wear it...yes! I'm such a dope sometimes.

Jazzgirl

(3,744 posts)
14. +1 Retrograde.
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 01:54 PM
Jan 2013

I have two mandolins and one is professional. I never use them without that little Kevlar glove. That guard gets in the way.

auntAgonist

(17,252 posts)
6. I am rating this post 10 ++
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 12:22 AM
Jan 2013

My husband says I'm a danger to myself in the kitchen. I don't own a mandoline and I think I'll keep it that way

You should write more!

aA
kesha

kurtzapril4

(1,353 posts)
13. Thank you very much, auntAgonist!
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 01:26 PM
Jan 2013

Last time I wrote something was the last paper I had to do for school. It was on a much less fun subject, and the profs don't appreciate jokes very much, LOL! They expect "scientific language" and you can't use terms like "bummer" or "for reals?" and "sweet!"

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
7. I cook for a living, and I have cut myself exactly once with a knife
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 01:03 AM
Jan 2013

However, I have cut myself on absolutely everything else in my kitchen. Including the back of a knife. And a soap dispenser. Aluminum foil is like razor wire in my hands. But I can juggle those knives and mandolines and food processor blades and all that other stuff with nary a nick.

kurtzapril4

(1,353 posts)
11. I think I'm probably
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 12:58 PM
Jan 2013

a bit of a clod, LOL! I have actually cut myself on cardboard. And that stupid bubble pack stuff that encases just about everything you buy today. I've gotten cut bad on that stuff.

That's so cool that you cook for a living. If I could do my life all over again, I'd probably be a cook, maybe even a chef. It's a very interesting life!

csziggy

(34,137 posts)
8. Sliced carrots - buy the frozen version
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 01:58 AM
Jan 2013

But I watched a Good Eats the other night in which Alton Brown wanted thin strips of carrot. Ultra neat - he took a vegetable peeler and used it to get wafer thin strips! The trick was - hold the thin end of the carrot with the carrot flat on a cutting board. Run the vegetable peeler away from you and turn the carrot with each stroke so you don't end up with wide flat strips. He ended up with a big pile of fettucine size strips of carrots in no time!

Alton made carrot salad with his carrot strips.

Here is the whole episode:



The part I'm talking about starts after 5:30.

I'm with you on the sharp objects. I buy pre-sliced mushrooms. That is because the scar from the six stitches in my right forefinger remind me of what happens when you try to use a supposed dull knife to slice mushrooms when not paying attention.

kurtzapril4

(1,353 posts)
15. I love Good Eats!
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 02:16 PM
Jan 2013

His recipes always turn out well for me. I like the science behind the cooking that he shows, it appeals to the nerd in me. An Armenian friend of mine taught me this recipe.

One lb of carrots, peeled down with a carrot peeler
1 tbsp. Olive or canola oil
1/2 tsp. salt
2 cloves of garlic minced, to taste
1/2 to 3/4 cup heavy cream
2 or 3 green onions, including green parts
Cooked spaghetti

add oil to hot skillet. Turn down heat to medium, add onions, cook 2 minutes. Add garlic, cook 1 minute. Add carrots and salt. Turn heat down a little, and cover. Stir occasionally. Cook until desired doneness. I usually go on the tender side of crisp-tender. Remove pan from heat and add heavy cream. Stir in. Serve over hot spaghetti. This is the basic recipe, you could probably add various herbs and it would still taste awesome.

csziggy

(34,137 posts)
16. MMM, that sounds good!
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 02:24 PM
Jan 2013

I'm the same about Good Eats - love the science.

I'm adding that recipe to my list to try when I have two good hands.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
12. Well done! I am also afraid of my mandoline and have used it only once
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 12:59 PM
Jan 2013

since purchasing it.

OTOH, I absolutely love my new knives and have been accident free since purchasing them (knock on wood).

 

guardian

(2,282 posts)
17. So it that what they mean when chefs say they "put a little of themselves into every dish?"
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 02:25 PM
Jan 2013

I use cut resistant gloves when working with a mandoline. They are cheap to buy. Effective at preventing cuts. And can be washed in the washing machine. I also don't bother with that stupid little safety hockey puck finger guard...just use the gloves as it is much easier.

Lugnut

(9,791 posts)
19. Oh lord, can I relate.
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 02:59 PM
Jan 2013

I buy Bandaids in industrial size boxes. One of the quirks of the spinal cord injury I have is the lack of protective sensation in my extremities. I've been known to hack a pretty deep slice in a finger and not realize it until I see blood. One of the tricks I've learned is to never take my eyes off what I'm cutting. It works most of the time. Mandolines are totally off limits. A woman has to know her limitations.

Mojorabbit

(16,020 posts)
21. I have a mandoline
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 09:38 PM
Jan 2013

and have only used it once years ago. It sits gathering dust. I type this with my left index finger wrapped in gauze after an unfortunate encounter involving my extra sharp paring knife and a whole chicken last night. Loved your post.

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