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mindem

(1,580 posts)
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 05:42 PM Jul 2018

My Pies

I'm just showing off a little. Our town has a pie baking contest that I enter every 4th of July. This year my Strawberry Rhubarb pie took first place in double-crust and my Ambassador Black Bottom pie took second place in the cream/custard pie category. The contest is a good fundraiser for our local library.



One of my pastry roses.



Ambassador Black Bottom Pie

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My Pies (Original Post) mindem Jul 2018 OP
Congratulations! They look delicious! I love livetohike Jul 2018 #1
Congratulations! elleng Jul 2018 #2
Thanks mindem Jul 2018 #3
WOW! SkyDaddy7 Jul 2018 #51
Yes, mindem Jul 2018 #57
Beautiful! cilla4progress Jul 2018 #4
Those look georgeous! I'd feel awful eating them, but even the rosettes look delicious. Squinch Jul 2018 #5
Wow!!! Liberal Jesus Freak Jul 2018 #6
Whoa! Those are beautiful! Laffy Kat Jul 2018 #7
Congratulations on your prizes! csziggy Jul 2018 #8
It's a pretty rich pie mindem Jul 2018 #31
Wow - what a great job! csziggy Jul 2018 #36
Booze can really help a flavor profile mindem Jul 2018 #37
Here are some Kieler Braune Kuchen mindem Jul 2018 #39
By the way, Scarsdale Jul 2018 #46
Both mindem Jul 2018 #47
I didn't know, so I had to look it up, because...... BobTheSubgenius Jul 2018 #49
I've figured the calorie count mindem Jul 2018 #55
That seems both reasonable... BobTheSubgenius Jul 2018 #62
You definitely have a gift. badhair77 Jul 2018 #9
Those look amazing!! JDC Jul 2018 #10
Can't get enough strawberry rhubarb! Saviolo Jul 2018 #11
You are an artist. NBachers Jul 2018 #12
Wow! Look delicious but too beautiful to eat! CousinIT Jul 2018 #13
They look great, TNNurse Jul 2018 #14
In total awe... calimary Jul 2018 #15
Oh, they are gorgeous. montana_hazeleyes Jul 2018 #16
I'd like to place an order for one of each. Thank you. 😋 sprinkleeninow Jul 2018 #17
Congratulations to you and kudos on your beautiful creations. You've really japple Jul 2018 #18
ok. i ain't winning any awards for presentation. at least mine are tasty. pansypoo53219 Jul 2018 #19
mmmmm PIE! BadGimp Jul 2018 #20
The Eyes mindem Jul 2018 #30
Congratulations! democrank Jul 2018 #21
That's fantastic.... paleotn Jul 2018 #22
Call me crazy, but I feel if we can still make pies like these beauties, mindem, peequod Jul 2018 #23
I'm pretty old fashioned mindem Jul 2018 #34
That takes the idea farther, I like it peequod Jul 2018 #41
Oh, yum! You're an artist! Honeycombe8 Jul 2018 #24
Now you've made me hungry! pruple Jul 2018 #25
You are a culinary artist! panader0 Jul 2018 #26
Yum Yum, almost too pretty to eat. nt intheozone Jul 2018 #27
wow!! samnsara Jul 2018 #28
Those are gorgeous! Ohiogal Jul 2018 #29
yummmmm! handmade34 Jul 2018 #32
OMG!! KT2000 Jul 2018 #33
Wihen can I come over? sweetroxie Jul 2018 #35
And not one recipe.... Lochloosa Jul 2018 #38
I am so impressed!!! They look incredible! Maraya1969 Jul 2018 #40
YUM!!! Congrats!! emmadoggy Jul 2018 #42
How many WW points? lol Oppaloopa Jul 2018 #43
Well they wouldn't be my choice of pie, but it sure is civic-minded!! bucolic_frolic Jul 2018 #44
Congratulations! Scarsdale Jul 2018 #45
Amazing! n/t Brainstormy Jul 2018 #48
I would interrupt my low card diet to eat those. sellitman Jul 2018 #50
Nom nom nom nom! denbot Jul 2018 #52
You are invited to my house for dinner. Bayard Jul 2018 #53
Well, now you should expect company to drop by .... eppur_se_muova Jul 2018 #54
He would be welcomed with open arms. mindem Jul 2018 #58
Dayum! Those are beautiful lillypaddle Jul 2018 #56
yummmmmmmm. you did save us some, yes??? niyad Jul 2018 #59
Pie is one of the greatest substanaces known to man SpankMe Jul 2018 #60
I love the rosette idea. I never thought of that. Vinca Jul 2018 #61
They're so beautiful area51 Jul 2018 #63
Happy to see this beautiful, delicious thread is still active! elleng Jul 2018 #64
They look so delish!!!! blue-wave Jul 2018 #65
That strawberry-rhubarb especially has been awaking cravings Hortensis Jul 2018 #66
They look gorgeous. Beacool Jul 2018 #67

elleng

(130,895 posts)
2. Congratulations!
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 05:48 PM
Jul 2018

Strawberry Rhubarb is my favorite pie, and as it's rarely around, I'd 'walk a mile' for yours!

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
51. WOW!
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 11:34 AM
Jul 2018

Your pies look wonderful!! …Just curious, are the flowers on the top of one of them the same as the crust? Tasty!

mindem

(1,580 posts)
57. Yes,
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 12:44 PM
Jul 2018

the flowers are made from the same crust as the pie and sculpted with pretty much the same technique as fondant flowers.

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
5. Those look georgeous! I'd feel awful eating them, but even the rosettes look delicious.
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 05:53 PM
Jul 2018

You have a talent I wish I had.

Liberal Jesus Freak

(1,451 posts)
6. Wow!!!
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 05:54 PM
Jul 2018

The pastry roses are gorgeous and the black bottom pie looks amazing! Congratulations...do you share recipes?

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
8. Congratulations on your prizes!
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 06:17 PM
Jul 2018

Your pies look wonderful - I think I gained weight just looking at the photos.

No wonder - I looked up the black bottom pie and the recipe I found, while sounding delicious shocked me: " Calories per serving: 4095" (https://www.bigoven.com/recipe/ambassador-black-bottom-pie/772073)

mindem

(1,580 posts)
31. It's a pretty rich pie
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 08:24 PM
Jul 2018

The base recipe I used came from the Augusta Kohrs recipe collection. I did some work for the National Park Service to contemporize her handwritten recipe collection, some of the recipes were written in old German and were quite a challenge to decipher. It's always a challenge to work with recipes from the 1800's because they list only the ingredients and no method. Eventually, the recipes and photography I did will be published by the Park Service. In the meanwhile, I have a nice collection of old dessert recipes to use for my cottage baking business.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
36. Wow - what a great job!
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 09:05 PM
Jul 2018

I know I ran into an old recipe from about 1834-40 by one of my g? grandmothers.

No name for the recipe, not even what it was supposed to be. DUers and a local friend helped me figure it out and it makes some mean pecan cookies. (My original thread on the recipe: https://www.democraticunderground.com/115738449)

The entries in the book are between 1812 and about 1842. This recipe was in the book:

2 or 3 tea cups of sugar
1 or 2 of butter and
1 of pecans
3 Eggs
1 Teaspoon of perlash *
3 tea cups flour
brandy to your taste.

*(Pearl ash or potassium carbonate was an early raising agent but when added to fats could make soapy tasting baked goods. Substitute baking powder.)

It sounds as though it would be some sort of cake. I'm thinking of trying it when I get home, using baking powder.


I worked with it and got this:

Modern adaptation:
1 1/2 cup light brown sugar
1 cup (two sticks) salted butter
3 large eggs
1 teaspoon vanilla extract or brandy or Irish Mist
2 cups chopped pecans
2 1/4 cups all purpose flour
1 tsp baking soda

Preheat oven to 350 F. Cream together butter and sugar until fluffy. Add eggs and vanilla and beat until well blended. Stir in pecans. Add 1 cup flour and baking soda, mix until just blended. Add rest of flour, mix until just blended; scrape sides of bowl, blend.

Drop by teaspoons on ungreased cookie sheets, 2 inches apart. Bake for 10 minutes. Allow to cool for a few minutes, then remove to rakes to cool completely. Makes 4 dozen cookies.

Notes: I used salted butter since that is what my husband brought home. I was going to add 1/2 teaspoon of salt but with the salted butter I omitted it.

The original recipe called for "brandy to your taste" but I used vanilla extract with my first try. While the cookies were OK, they needed something. The second time I used Irish Mist and they were much more interesting. Since then I have made it with a tablespoon of brandy and that was really good.

mindem

(1,580 posts)
37. Booze can really help a flavor profile
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 09:19 PM
Jul 2018

I used real rum for the Black Bottom Pie instead of rum flavoring and it put the custard over the top. Potash or perlash was used quite a bit in German recipes as a leavening agent. Some of the recipes I worked on called for heartsbane, it felt like reading the instructions for a potion vs. a recipe.

mindem

(1,580 posts)
39. Here are some Kieler Braune Kuchen
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 09:30 PM
Jul 2018

Last edited Mon Jul 9, 2018, 10:20 AM - Edit history (1)

I worked out that called for both perlash and heartsbane. It's quite a process because the finished dough calls for being aged at room temperature for a week or more. They taste great though.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
46. By the way,
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 07:53 AM
Jul 2018

speaking of the brandy, is that for the pie, or the baker?? I gave a friend a little do-dad that said "I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food"

mindem

(1,580 posts)
47. Both
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 08:06 AM
Jul 2018

Good cooks always sample as they go. In fact, it may be necessary to taste more than one type of brandy, rum, whiskey to ensure the perfect fusion of flavors. Just sayin'.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
49. I didn't know, so I had to look it up, because......
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 10:46 AM
Jul 2018

...that calorie count seemed incredibly high. Two days RDA of calories in one piece of pie?

I don't know the serving size, but let's assume 100 grams. A different source gave a calorie count of just under 300. It gave the same number for a slice of cheesecake.

I LOVE the sound of that pie, and hearty congratulations on an amazing showing! Those kinds of contests bring out some pretty fine competition, so you were up against good bakers and still did incredibly well!

badhair77

(4,217 posts)
9. You definitely have a gift.
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 06:27 PM
Jul 2018

They are beautiful and they look delicious. Thanks also for supporting your local library. Budgets are tight everywhere.

Saviolo

(3,282 posts)
11. Can't get enough strawberry rhubarb!
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 06:54 PM
Jul 2018

And those little pastry roses are lovely and look delicious. It's still rhubarb season here, so we might make another video in addition to the apple rhubarb compote I posted earlier.

CousinIT

(9,244 posts)
13. Wow! Look delicious but too beautiful to eat!
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 06:57 PM
Jul 2018

And for a great cause too. Strawberry-rhubarb - mmmmmm...

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
14. They look great,
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 06:59 PM
Jul 2018

but the test is in the taste. I would give them a try. I am sure they are as good as they look.

japple

(9,824 posts)
18. Congratulations to you and kudos on your beautiful creations. You've really
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 07:18 PM
Jul 2018

done it up right. Wish I could sample just a tiny sliver of each!

Two thumbs up!

peequod

(189 posts)
23. Call me crazy, but I feel if we can still make pies like these beauties, mindem,
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 07:37 PM
Jul 2018

I feel there is hope for this great nation. Thank you for your artistry on a sunny summer’s afternoon.

mindem

(1,580 posts)
34. I'm pretty old fashioned
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 08:36 PM
Jul 2018

I think if we started to bring back things like pie and ice cream socials people would get along a little better.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
24. Oh, yum! You're an artist!
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 07:43 PM
Jul 2018

I've never understood the interest that many have in baking & cooking. I have no interest in it at all. It's torture to me to have to cook something. But I sure like to partake in the goodies that others make!

KT2000

(20,577 posts)
33. OMG!!
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 08:28 PM
Jul 2018

Gorgeous! The rosettes on the strawberry/rhubarb are beautiful. Congrats! My favorite is S/R.

mindem

(1,580 posts)
58. He would be welcomed with open arms.
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 12:48 PM
Jul 2018

In fact, I'd be inspired to create a signature pie for the occasion.

Vinca

(50,270 posts)
61. I love the rosette idea. I never thought of that.
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 05:18 PM
Jul 2018

Pies are one of my favorite things to make, but I've never made one quite as pretty as yours. Sometimes I cut out apple shapes to put on apple pies, but that's about the extent of it. They never last long enough to appreciate the artwork anyway. LOL.

elleng

(130,895 posts)
64. Happy to see this beautiful, delicious thread is still active!
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 10:17 PM
Jul 2018

SAD to say I saw (and bought) one yesterday, at a 'community' sale (@ my doctor's office/group), and it was AWFUL! SHOULD have known, the crust LOOKED bad/boring, but as strawberry rhubarb pies are rather rare, I couldn't resist. Will continue to look.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
66. That strawberry-rhubarb especially has been awaking cravings
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 05:36 PM
Jul 2018

for days now. I haven't gotten into baking, but you reminded me that learning to throw together a great strawberry-rhubarb crisp has been on my list since my last piece of pie (last summer). Most recipes I looked at then apparently had a problem with excess liquid, according to reviews.

Just beautiful, Mindem.

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