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elleng

(131,063 posts)
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 01:04 AM Mar 2012

So what should I do?

Learned today my blood sugar is SLIGHTLY elevated; not aware of such issue in the past. May have to change my 'breakfast' of coffee w a morning sweet (ginger snaps, McD's apple pie.) Not sure what to do, AND

My diet contains a higher % of vegs than meat, but found this list of relatively high carb + sugar vegs. What to do? I used to HATE cooked carrots (as a kid) but like them a lot now, in soups/stews etc, and like potatoes in those dishes. And water chestnuts??? LOVE that crunch!

•Carrots (some diets flag carrots as a problem, though they are lower in carbs than others in this group)
•Beets
•Peas
•Winter Squashes, such as acorn and butternut
•Water Chestnuts
•Parsnips
•Potatoes in all forms
•Sweet Potatoes
•Corn
•Plantains

Do want my remaining senior years to be healthy, looking into a couple issues, so thought I'd check with y'all. May cross-post in Health.

Thx

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So what should I do? (Original Post) elleng Mar 2012 OP
See if fresh apples, etc. will satisfy your morning sweet tooth. And eat tons of greens. freshwest Mar 2012 #1
Thanks. elleng Mar 2012 #5
Eat protein in the morning. Baitball Blogger Mar 2012 #2
Thanks. elleng Mar 2012 #3
There are now eggs available without the bad stuff. Baitball Blogger Mar 2012 #6
Thanks, and wish I liked peanut butter, elleng Mar 2012 #8
It helps you metabolize your food more effectively. Baitball Blogger Mar 2012 #10
Thanks. elleng Mar 2012 #11
Egg whites (egg beaters) cook up quick. That gets rid of the cholesterol issue. MADem Mar 2012 #14
Thanks for the suggestion, but egg whites seem SO BORING to me! elleng Mar 2012 #15
I think it's all how you play 'em. You can make them sing with very little work. MADem Mar 2012 #37
do one egg, the rest egg white NJCher Mar 2012 #51
Yes, o'meal's good. elleng Mar 2012 #53
MADem, saw Ezekiel CEREAL at grocery this evening, elleng Mar 2012 #69
Mmmmmmmmmm!!! I'll have to look for that! nt MADem Mar 2012 #70
If you just took yourself off statins yellerpup Mar 2012 #16
Thanks. Will try to remember to discuss this w my doc, elleng Mar 2012 #19
If you weren't experiencing muscle pain yellerpup Mar 2012 #28
No muscle pain, elleng Mar 2012 #32
You Dad is 98! yellerpup Mar 2012 #35
Yes, and going to visit him elleng Mar 2012 #39
Moderation is the best way to go. yellerpup Mar 2012 #44
Thanks; gotta take my walk now, elleng Mar 2012 #48
ABSOLUTELY grasswire Mar 2012 #34
It made such a difference for me when I was sick. yellerpup Mar 2012 #36
I take 400 mg/day grasswire Mar 2012 #38
I'm going to check his website. yellerpup Mar 2012 #42
OH, HAPPY BIRTHDAY, YELLERPUP!!! elleng Mar 2012 #50
I'm dressing up and going out. yellerpup Mar 2012 #56
YAAAAY! elleng Mar 2012 #57
Sure want to ward off wrinkles! elleng Mar 2012 #40
I give myself a vitamin E facial yellerpup Mar 2012 #43
Oh, DEFINITELY, yeller, elleng Mar 2012 #46
Seems we have much in common! yellerpup Mar 2012 #47
Splenda. It is pretty good. I sometimes put it in my morning tea. ZombieHorde Mar 2012 #4
Thanks. elleng Mar 2012 #7
THANKS for the ideas, guys! elleng Mar 2012 #9
some self-educating now may save you a health issue later grasswire Mar 2012 #12
Thanks for all this info, grass; will take a while to digest!!! elleng Mar 2012 #13
complex v. simple grasswire Mar 2012 #33
very helpful link, gw NJCher Mar 2012 #52
V-8 NOW, thanks SO MUCH for the suggestion; really is good! elleng Mar 2012 #41
Grab a red cabbage and fat-free sour cream and you've got a wicked borscht on your hands!!! HopeHoops Mar 2012 #17
Right, but no BEETS???!!! elleng Mar 2012 #20
I thought beets were in the list! E-Gads. If not, get some. HopeHoops Mar 2012 #21
Beets are on the NO NO (or, HIGH CARB/Sugar list) elleng Mar 2012 #23
Stew that isn't red. HopeHoops Mar 2012 #24
Fuggetabotit!!! elleng Mar 2012 #25
Call it chowder. HopeHoops Mar 2012 #26
Right, but the right kind of chowder elleng Mar 2012 #27
"Right kind of chowder" is a "fightin' words" subject. Careful there. HopeHoops Mar 2012 #29
I KNOW, HOPE! elleng Mar 2012 #31
My advice would be to get blood sugar test equipment, learn to use it, bemildred Mar 2012 #18
67, :hi: don't know what's 'a touch heavy,' as never look at scale, elleng Mar 2012 #22
Weight is relative, it depends on your frame, age, etc. bemildred Mar 2012 #30
The American Heart Association publishes a glycemic index online Warpy Mar 2012 #45
Hi, Warpy! elleng Mar 2012 #49
I think you need to look at the list Warpy Mar 2012 #54
Thanks; will do. elleng Mar 2012 #55
I would reccomend going to your Dr. and get a oneshooter Mar 2012 #58
Thanks. Doc's office just told me, elleng Mar 2012 #59
Been a Type2 for 12 years now. Avoid or severly limit oneshooter Mar 2012 #60
Thanks; working on it. That's why I asked here. elleng Mar 2012 #61
Well, JMHO: kestrel91316 Mar 2012 #62
Thanks. Several have suggested Splenda, elleng Mar 2012 #63
Don't go crazy with the Splenda either. Eat too much and get a free pass to the Loo! oneshooter Mar 2012 #64
No prob, wouldn't hurt, elleng Mar 2012 #65
I use an average of 3-4 packets a day and it doesn't do anything to me. kestrel91316 Mar 2012 #66
Type 2 for about 20 years and the most important thing I learned... TreasonousBastard Mar 2012 #67
Oh, Cinnabon! elleng Mar 2012 #68
I couldn't remember if I told you about Dreamfields pasta MADem Apr 2012 #71
Thanks, MADem! elleng Apr 2012 #72
It's really amazing stuff--tastes just like "regular" pasta but without that MADem Apr 2012 #74
You mentioned that you don't use sweetners very often, but... Ruby Reason Apr 2012 #73
You can buy stevia in the store--Truvia is made of stevia, and it is great stuff. MADem Apr 2012 #75
Wow, I didn't know it was sold in stores pre-pakaged. Ruby Reason Apr 2012 #77
If there is a "Trader Joe's" near you, you can buy, for six or seven bucks, a container of stevia MADem Apr 2012 #81
Thanks, Ruby; will try it when I determine I need to. elleng Apr 2012 #76
I wish I'd noticed this thread earlier noamnety Apr 2012 #78
Thanks very much, noamnety, elleng Apr 2012 #79
The Sugar Busters Book is excellent for understanding the glycemic index. FarPoint Apr 2012 #80
To all of the kind Cooks and Bakers who provided suggestions, elleng Apr 2012 #82

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
1. See if fresh apples, etc. will satisfy your morning sweet tooth. And eat tons of greens.
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 01:14 AM
Mar 2012

I know it's very hard breaking the coffee, etc. habit but also that having it daily is a more psychological crutch. The coffee and sweets have little to no nutritional value, so you might want to wean yourself off of them. At least that's what I had to do.

elleng

(131,063 posts)
5. Thanks.
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 01:30 AM
Mar 2012

Will look for the right apple.

Bought a bunch of mangoes this evening, and THEN learned they're one of the high sugar fruits!!! But my friend LOVES them!

I have a good amount of greens in soups and stews, and as summer is coming, so will salads.

Baitball Blogger

(46,754 posts)
2. Eat protein in the morning.
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 01:19 AM
Mar 2012

Skip the sugar until the afternoon, once your body stabilizes.

Caffeine also accelerates the process.You might have to cut back, at least until everything falls into place.

These are minor adjustments. You have a very healthy diet, otherwise.

elleng

(131,063 posts)
3. Thanks.
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 01:27 AM
Mar 2012

I should have mentioned that I only drink decaffeinated coffee; cut the caffeine during a high-anxiety time, so its not the caffeine that I like or crave; its the flavor! And the habit of a hot cuppa.

Protein as in eggs??? Would be happy to do that, but also trying to watch cholesterol. Just took myself off a statin, with doc's OK. And toast? More carb, which I tend to have with lunch or dinner.

Baitball Blogger

(46,754 posts)
6. There are now eggs available without the bad stuff.
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 01:32 AM
Mar 2012

Peanut butter on toast would work too. Stick strictly to whole wheat bread. No white bread, ever.

The combination of protein and toast will stabilize you.

Also, get some probiotics at the GNC.

Try it for a week and see what happens. If it works for you, you'll know it right away.

elleng

(131,063 posts)
8. Thanks, and wish I liked peanut butter,
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 01:37 AM
Mar 2012

but once a year is more than enough for me!

What do probiotics do?

Baitball Blogger

(46,754 posts)
10. It helps you metabolize your food more effectively.
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 01:42 AM
Mar 2012

So your body absorbs what it needs. Many people also experience a weight loss.

elleng

(131,063 posts)
11. Thanks.
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 01:48 AM
Mar 2012

Guess what? On Charlie Rose, right now, Mark Hyman, author of ?The Blood Sugar Solution!
Not much info: 'Buy my book, Bill Clinton says so.' Not his fault; short interview.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
14. Egg whites (egg beaters) cook up quick. That gets rid of the cholesterol issue.
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 02:46 AM
Mar 2012

Put some garlic powder and oregano in 'em--breakfast in three minutes. Little s and p, and there ya go. Put it on a slice of toast and you can eat it on the go. Get Ezekiel bread (find it in the grocer's freezer--it's made from fresh sprouted grains/organic/very fibre-oriented so it isn't carby).

If you have more time, get some fresh or frozen peppers (vitamin c) and chopped onion and put those in the pan. Maybe a little bit of feta cheese in there too. Nice.

elleng

(131,063 posts)
15. Thanks for the suggestion, but egg whites seem SO BORING to me!
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 02:54 AM
Mar 2012

Will find out in a couple of months how my cholesterol is doing w/o statin; don't recall if I've heard those numbers from my doc. Never VERY 'bad,' I think, but will see.

Ezekiel bread sounds good, interesting, and the peppers + onion sound like major part of many of our dinners.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
37. I think it's all how you play 'em. You can make them sing with very little work.
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 01:26 PM
Mar 2012

I don't like them "plain" myself, but when I use them as a backdrop to other stuff, they work pretty well. I like putting cumin in 'em, and cooking them with the peppers, or tomatoes, or some fresh salsa, or maybe some cubed summer squash/zucchini. They are nice with a bit of curry, too, and a little side of chutney. The egg white really just serves to hold the other junk together, and you get some nice, pure protein w/o the dreaded yolk.

I have enviable cholesterol for my age, and I don't take any drugs. I do it by eating Mediterranean/Middle Eastern to a large extent--I should probably eat a little less to really do it right, but everyone needs at least one vice (not that I limit myself to just one...).

The Ezekiel bread really is a winner. It's a bit more in cost than an average loaf, but it lasts forever if you stow it in the freezer -- only one slice will fill you up. Call around to see if your store carries it--they sell it in lots of places now, not just the Whole Paycheck/Health Food stores.

http://www.foodforlife.com/




They make tortillas, pitas, English muffins, etc., too...

NJCher

(35,709 posts)
51. do one egg, the rest egg white
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 05:00 PM
Mar 2012

And get the egg whites that are yellow in color in the milk-type cartons. The color really goes a long way in convincing you that you're having regular-style eggs.

Also, I've been told you should not consume egg whites only anyway, as the egg and yolk combine for a complete food. Egg whites only doesn't accomplish that purpose.

What about oatmeal? It does wonders for leveling the blood sugar.

It also does a lot for cholesterol lowering.


Cher

elleng

(131,063 posts)
53. Yes, o'meal's good.
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 05:30 PM
Mar 2012

Silly that its been off my list this past winter! Make it with milk + water, serve it with pure maple syrup and a touch of milk.

elleng

(131,063 posts)
69. MADem, saw Ezekiel CEREAL at grocery this evening,
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 10:18 PM
Mar 2012

and now snacking on it! (Kind of like grape nuts, imo)

yellerpup

(12,253 posts)
16. If you just took yourself off statins
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 08:24 AM
Mar 2012

I want to share with you that back when I was struggling with achalasia I saw many gastro specialists. Every single doctor I spoke to (over a three year time frame) who was on statins also took CoQ10 to counter the effects of statin meds. Statins effect the muscles and CoQ10 replenishes what the muscles lose. The topic never came up until I told them I was on CoQ10 (recommended to me by a friend who is a pharmaceutical researcher) but they should be telling everyone. I wonder if being off statins recently is driving up your blood sugar. Good luck to you. Hope you are feeling tippy-top asap!

yellerpup

(12,253 posts)
28. If you weren't experiencing muscle pain
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 12:10 PM
Mar 2012

while you were on statins, it's probably not an issue. My family is riddled with diabetes juvenile and type 2, but the good news is that type 2 can be controlled by diet fairly easily.

elleng

(131,063 posts)
32. No muscle pain,
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 12:22 PM
Mar 2012

but balance issues. Taking B-12.
No diabetes in family that I can recall, but everyone's gone except Dad so I can't confirm. (Dad's 98, so I do want to remain 'healthy' for a while!)

yellerpup

(12,253 posts)
35. You Dad is 98!
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 12:37 PM
Mar 2012

Wow! Then you do have a lot to look forward to. Staying healthy is the best way to ride out 'old age'. You are doing the smart thing by taking steps now.

elleng

(131,063 posts)
39. Yes, and going to visit him
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 03:10 PM
Mar 2012

(in Iowa, where brother + his family are) next week, so my 'resolutions' may be for naught! (But but but, no, brother's family is vegetarian!!!)

Yes, Dad's age prompts me to do what I can to stay healthy. P.S., he's always been a meat + potatoes + dessert guy, but everything in moderation, and not because someone told him to do it that way, its just his nature.

yellerpup

(12,253 posts)
44. Moderation is the best way to go.
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 03:43 PM
Mar 2012

I deny myself nothing except for foods that I'm sensitive or allergic to. I backpack to the grocer a half mile each way, walk often, and work out with light weights for my upper body. My grandma made it almost to 99 and I had another ggranny on the other side of the family who lived to 107, so I have some genes for longevity. Have a great trip and enjoy your family!

elleng

(131,063 posts)
48. Thanks; gotta take my walk now,
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 04:03 PM
Mar 2012

but its nothing like yours, barely 1/4 mile, imo. Retirement took me out of the city, wherein I'd often walk good distances, from here to there. Now have to find OK places to walk to/from, and do it.

When I visited folks in Florida, few years ago, Mother was ill, I took evening walks along the beach, at Deerfield, and certainly miss it; followed stages of the moon, too!

Haven't denied myself anything either, but with this mini-warning from doc, I'm removing some items from menu (until I change my mind!) May not have any Starbucks mochas, certainly no whipped cream, no more Hamentashen and rugulah. (Oh, maybe THAT's the reason for the blood-sugar reading, PURIM!!!)

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
34. ABSOLUTELY
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 12:35 PM
Mar 2012

CoQ10 is something our body produces, but makes less of as we grow older.

I consider it a life changer, as do many doctors.

Good for bringing up coQ10, yellerpup.

yellerpup

(12,253 posts)
36. It made such a difference for me when I was sick.
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 01:11 PM
Mar 2012

I still take it because it doesn't interact with anything (although I am only on levothyroxine) and call me but I think it helps ward off wrinkles, too!

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
38. I take 400 mg/day
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 03:01 PM
Mar 2012

I follow the supplement recommendations of Dr. Stephen Sinatra, an integrative cardiologist who has a LOT of info on his web site about staying healthy.

yellerpup

(12,253 posts)
42. I'm going to check his website.
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 03:32 PM
Mar 2012

I take 200 mg/day per my friend's recommendation. None of the doctors objected to that amount, but they weren't very forthcoming one way or the other except to say they took it too. I had a colonoscopy last week and was interviewed several times beforehand. They were all amazed that the only medication I take at my age (63 tomorrow) is levothyroxine, which I have taken for 38 years.

yellerpup

(12,253 posts)
56. I'm dressing up and going out.
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 08:08 PM
Mar 2012

For dinner at Harper's, a locavore restaurant that serves duck rilettes at the bar along with their house pickled cornichon and baby carrots and radishes. They also serve potatoes roasted in duck fat, veal ravioli...mmm, all very artisanal. Monday through Thursday their house cocktails are half price, all sophisticated drinks made with house made syrups and bitters. Best of all, it's within walking distance so the worst possible trouble I can get into is singing too loudly on the way home. It's going to be a happy one!

elleng

(131,063 posts)
40. Sure want to ward off wrinkles!
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 03:17 PM
Mar 2012

VERY fortunate, again, to have few; use Vit. E cream around eyes and frown-area around mouth, and wrinkles not much of a problem now.

Take levothyroxine too, yeller!

yellerpup

(12,253 posts)
43. I give myself a vitamin E facial
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 03:36 PM
Mar 2012

every week or so. I could use a bit more shoring up than vitamin E provides, but am not willing to go through surgery for cosmetic reasons. I'm a chicken when it comes to elective pain!

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
4. Splenda. It is pretty good. I sometimes put it in my morning tea.
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 01:30 AM
Mar 2012

You can also buy plain yogurt, and put Slenda and fruit in it. Yum!

Greek yogurt is really high in protein. You may want to check it out if you haven't already.

If you feel uncertain about an artificial sweetener, you can probably try it the next time you go out to eat since restaurants usually have it.

elleng

(131,063 posts)
7. Thanks.
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 01:35 AM
Mar 2012

I'm not interested in artificial sweeteners. I don't use much refined sugar, in fact, and when I have coffee, I rarely finish a whole cup (which contains less than a full teaspoonfull of sugar.)

Haven't tried Greek yogurt, so will do so. I understand berries are a low carb/sugar fruit, so sounds like a good combo.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
12. some self-educating now may save you a health issue later
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 02:12 AM
Mar 2012

If your insurance will cover it, you might want to see a dietitian, although there is plenty of info available on what's good for you right now.

As someone who ate a healthy healthy diet but developed type 2 diabetes a few years ago anyway, here's what I learned.

Carbs are so so bad. Complex carbs are not quite as bad (they don't turn to sugar quite as quickly) but they still DO turn to sugar. But you do need some carbs in your diet to give you energy and make systems work right.

Water is important. Exercise is important.

Never eat a carb without also eating protein. Milk, cheese, nuts, etc. Carry some protein with you when you are away from home. I just toss a baggie of walnuts in my day bag.

Pay attention to your body. Are there times in the day when you feel fatigue come on? Pay attention. Keep a record if you need to, and jot down what you ate and how you felt.

Here's pretty much what I eat:

Breakfast: raw almonds or walnuts and a few dried cranberries, glass of milk or coffee with lots of milk. Sometimes I make some whole wheat banana bread and have a cube of that. Also, there is one cereal that I can eat: Alpen muesli. Just 1/2 cup with milk is very filling. Greek yogurt is delicious, but be sure you read the carb count on the label! Shoot for something that is under 20 carbs for a serving. You can also get it with zero fat.

Lunch: half a sandwich on rye bread (only 13 carbs/slice) and half a grapefruit. Sandwich might be grilled cheese, or tuna. I might make chocolate milk with nutra sweet -- the dark cocoa is a good thing and it feels like a real treat.

Snack: Big glass of V-8, a couple of whole grain crackers and a cube of cheese. Maybe a few slices of cucumber with cream cheese, or half an apple with peanut butter.

Dinner: Meat, vegetables or salad, or a meatless meal. Must be careful about carbs here -- very tempting to eat what is prepared for other family members.

Snack: Likely to be milk, maybe a cup of chicken broth, whatever. Cottage cheese perhaps.

I try to eat 50-75 carbs per day. That's not easy, and often I fail. But I know there's hell to pay if I really blunder because I won't feel good at all.

Trial and error will help you figure this out!

On edit: Also, we are here for you, always!

elleng

(131,063 posts)
13. Thanks for all this info, grass; will take a while to digest!!!
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 02:30 AM
Mar 2012

I drink water continually, throughout the day. As retired and restructuring my life, must incorporate exercise = walking, so must be in pleasant/interesting surroundings.

Used to eat muesli, after trip to Europe MANY years ago. That was also at beginning of advent of yogurt in U.S. (Dating myself!)

V-8, crackers and cheese definitely sounds like me.

So what's complex carbs, vs. simple ones???

THANKS!

elleng

(131,063 posts)
41. V-8 NOW, thanks SO MUCH for the suggestion; really is good!
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 03:22 PM
Mar 2012

and w cheese + multi-grain crackers. Cheese gets me protein, right??? Just returned from grocery!

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
18. My advice would be to get blood sugar test equipment, learn to use it,
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 10:59 AM
Mar 2012

and then watch my blood sugar several times a day under different conditions: right in the morning before you take anything (fasting), an hour or so after I eat, after meals of particular sorts (high carbs, high protein, high fat, lots of calories) etc. That should help you identify the problem (if any) and what to do about it (if anything).

WRT what to do, I'd look at weight loss, exercise, calorie restriction, dietary adjustments, etc. while I'm studying how my blood sugar reacts to different life style choices.

I'm 66, I've had to make a lot of adjustments since I turned 60, in particular i find that keeping the calories down and losing weight feel very good, and staying away from meat (just a little).

I assume you are a type two diabetic, if diabetic at all, because of the late onset, and possibly a touch heavy?

elleng

(131,063 posts)
22. 67, :hi: don't know what's 'a touch heavy,' as never look at scale,
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 11:37 AM
Mar 2012

doc hasn't suggested losing weight, just exercise. Weight may be high 130s?

Don't eat much meat, proportionately, mostly vegs w SOME meat. Prolly more carbs of various kinds. Blood sugar @ 103, doc's office said 99 is high end of 'normal,' and suggested 'watch diet and exercise.'

Thanks for suggestions!

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
30. Weight is relative, it depends on your frame, age, etc.
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 12:15 PM
Mar 2012

130 sounds fine for a woman your age unless you are short ( < 5' ), then I would not be sure. I haven't been small since puberty, and my judgement is not sound there.

"Lose weight and exercise" is generic advice for anybody and it means nothing specific about you at all.

My brother is a "late onset, brittle, type 1 diabetic", he's going on 73, doing pretty well. I can tell you that he is doing well BECAUSE he manages his own condition, doctors don't really have time to manage your health, and they are much too expensive anyway.

However, I know that his blood sugar moves all around during the course of the day and he checks it every 4 hours or so. the thing is that "high end of normal range" is a.) not abnormal at all and b.) likely to happen all the time right after you eat, when your blood sugar quite naturally goes up. It's sort of like the situation with blood pressure, what matters is when it stays up, never comes down, not whether it's high at the doctors office.

You sound like you are doing rather well.

PS: I was pretty overweight, so I am in the habit of looking at the scale.

Warpy

(111,319 posts)
45. The American Heart Association publishes a glycemic index online
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 03:49 PM
Mar 2012

While that doesn't mean you have to eliminate high glycemic foods, it means you need to be aware of which ones they are and eat them in lower quantities than you're used to. Unfortunately, the white potato is a fairly high glycemic food, a disaster to us Irish. Water chestnuts are not as problematic because it takes far less of them to provide that crunch in stir fries. You can also substitute jicama for them, although that doesn't buy you much in terms of high glycemic index.

What you need to start doing immediately is eliminate simple sugar foods like commercial cookies, pies, pastries, fruits in heavy syrup, and sugar in your coffee. Splenda works really well in a lot of foods, but if you must have a cookie in the morning, try the sugar free ones that are available in a lot of groceries.

It took you a lot of years to develop this, so treating it can be one step at a time. However, the simple sugar stuff has to go now.

(I had to work really hard to get my blood sugar up to borderline, 100 mgs. of solu cortef + septic shock. I think I'm safe for a few years)

elleng

(131,063 posts)
49. Hi, Warpy!
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 04:18 PM
Mar 2012

Have had no cookies today, bought whole grain crackers and bread, but also Polaner All Fruit Raspberry for times I want a sweet 'pastry.' Also bought fresh strawberries and blueberries, may have with cereal, and if it becomes necessary, may pick up some of those sugar-free cookies you mention; I'd forgotten about those. Thanks.

Will reduce amount of potatoes in our 'stews.' Not Irish, but potatoes are international! My friend the cook, Pakistani, uses them a fair amount. What do you think of carrots???

Warpy

(111,319 posts)
54. I think you need to look at the list
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 07:04 PM
Mar 2012

and just keep it in mind when you're shopping and eating.

Still, the big change you need to make now is no simple sugars and that means getting that bag of Splenda for your coffee and fruits that need it. You also need to get into the habit of reading labels and anything that ends in -ose is sugar, and you need to avoid it.

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
58. I would reccomend going to your Dr. and get a
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 09:30 PM
Mar 2012

Glucose Tolerence Test. That will tell you how well your body is handleing the sugars in your blood. This will tell you if you have Type2 diabetes.

Oneshooter

elleng

(131,063 posts)
59. Thanks. Doc's office just told me,
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 09:57 PM
Mar 2012

after 'fasting' blood test Friday, blood sugar 'slightly elevated,' 103 when 99 is high end of 'normal' range. Recommended 'watch diet and exercise,' so I asked these guys what to do.

Modifying diet accordingly, and will see in 2 months or so how things are going.

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
60. Been a Type2 for 12 years now. Avoid or severly limit
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 10:43 PM
Mar 2012

all products containing flour, rice, potatoes, corn is ok in limited amounts. Basicly a low carb diet, protien in moderation. All sugars are SUGAR, no matter if it are from beets, cane or honey,and are to be severly limited.

Sorry for the bad news, but if you want to avoid full blown diabetes, and even then you may not, it is best to start now.

Oneshooter
Armed and Livin in Texas

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
62. Well, JMHO:
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 12:02 AM
Mar 2012

A) Splenda

B) Can't you temper the glycemic index of those problem veggies by serving them with a fat to delay digestion? And/or high-fiber grains?

elleng

(131,063 posts)
63. Thanks. Several have suggested Splenda,
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 12:12 AM
Mar 2012

and I have no idea about B). Trying to avoid most fats, as just stopped taking a statin. Am adding high-fiber grains.

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
64. Don't go crazy with the Splenda either. Eat too much and get a free pass to the Loo!
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 08:42 AM
Mar 2012

It has been known to cause the runs.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
67. Type 2 for about 20 years and the most important thing I learned...
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 11:23 PM
Mar 2012

is that none of us are the same.

Sure, watch your carbs and get some exercise, but maybe you'll respond to cinnamon or alphalipoic acid, or maybe not. Maybe you'll eventually need meds, or maybe not. You'll learn about a1c, glycemic index, and the scams like Noni juice and chromium picolinate. You'll find out that snacking on Cheerios or low-carb whole wheat bread might cause spiking, or may not.

And, you should slow down on many fruits, since they taste so good because of all the sugar. Blueberries are OK, though, and have lots of other benefits. Bananas and grapes are no-no's. Raisins are especially bad, so say good-bye to rice pudding, which has the triple badness of milk, rice, and raisins. (I LOVE rice pudding, so that one really hurt!)

Listen to your doctor and dietician but realize that what they tell you is often fairly generic and in the end the only thing that you can really believe is your own blood sugar test results. (And some meters can be as much as 20% off at times, but they usually average out in the long run.)

But, you're in pretty good shape and sugar levels occasionally going a little over 100 at your age should be watched, but it's not a calamity so far.

FWIW, once in the past year I managed to get down to 115, and I still don't know how I did it.

(And I almost got thrown out of a diet class when we were talking about the benefits of cinnamon and I asked if it worked if it was in a Cinnabon...)


elleng

(131,063 posts)
68. Oh, Cinnabon!
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 11:47 PM
Mar 2012


Did some research, learned that my recent # ain't near that considered worthy of serious concern, that is, I was 103 last week, but saw that reading of 126 TWICE may be 'problematic.' Will be interested to see what happens to # in couple months, after I've done some modest changes.

Avoiding my cookies, switching to whole grain crackers, + occasional whole grain bread. Reducing potatoes.

Visiting brother's vegetarian family next week, for 4 days, and might be interesting to see numbers after that, but I'm NOT checking numbers; waiting to see doc.

Thanks

MADem

(135,425 posts)
71. I couldn't remember if I told you about Dreamfields pasta
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 03:28 AM
Apr 2012

I don't know about you, but pasta normally gives me a post prandial coma! This stuff, the Dreamfields pasta, is made in such a way that it takes its sweet time getting absorbed into your system. I found about about it at a diabetic website (I was doing some googling for a friend). Well, I will try anything once, so I tried this stuff--it is expensive as hell--over two bucks a box, basically (you can sometimes find it on sale, and that is the time to snap it up).

Anyway--to cut to the chase--the stuff is GOOD. I am very particular about pasta as I lived in Italy for seven years and I know good pasta from crap. This stuff is great and I don't get the post-prandial coma afterwards, so it does seem to live up to its name. There's not a lot of variety in shapes (penne, rotini, regular spaghetti--and at the military commissary I found lasagna noodles, cappellini, and one other shape that escapes me right now) but if the glycemic thing matters, this is the way to go, I think.

They sell the stuff in most groceries--you have to look to find it though--it is usually tucked in amongst the other pastas. Once you know their box design it becomes easier to find.

Anyway, thought I would pass that on to you if you're still on the lookout for low gycemic goodies....

Link to their site: http://www.dreamfieldsfoods.com/

MADem

(135,425 posts)
74. It's really amazing stuff--tastes just like "regular" pasta but without that
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 09:19 AM
Apr 2012

"dump" comatose feeling one gets afterwards. I will freely admit I was skeptical when I tried it, now I am a diehard fan (even at two bucks and change a box--and I am cheap, so if I spend the money, it's worth it).

We have a Type 2 family member so this is a good fit in that regard, too!

Ruby Reason

(242 posts)
73. You mentioned that you don't use sweetners very often, but...
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 09:02 AM
Apr 2012

if you need one, try Stevia. You can't buy it at a store. We grow it. But it is naturally sweet, we harvest and dry the leaves, and is sugarless. No bitter aftertaste either. You can get a plant at the garden center or order seeds. It is relatively easy to grow and you can harvest almost right away and all summer. It is an annual. My brother in law has sugar and he loves it. We mostly use it in tea.

All the artificial sweetner companies would love to be rid of it!

Good luck with your new challenge.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
75. You can buy stevia in the store--Truvia is made of stevia, and it is great stuff.
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 09:26 AM
Apr 2012

Also you can get it in "bulk" in a big shaker jar (about the size of a supermarket jar of parmesan cheese) at Trader Joe's for six bucks or thereabouts.

Stevia is a bit more expensive than Splenda or Equal but it is worth it for the taste alone. Stevia is another one of those "worth the extra expense" products.

Ruby Reason

(242 posts)
77. Wow, I didn't know it was sold in stores pre-pakaged.
Sat Apr 14, 2012, 08:21 AM
Apr 2012

We love growing our own anyway, but my brother-in-law may be quite interested in knowing this.
Thanks!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
81. If there is a "Trader Joe's" near you, you can buy, for six or seven bucks, a container of stevia
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 12:25 PM
Apr 2012

that looks like it is packed in one of those supermarket parmesan cheese plastic shaker jars. About that size, too. Lasts a good long while, too, that.

 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
78. I wish I'd noticed this thread earlier
Sat Apr 14, 2012, 10:20 AM
Apr 2012

I've spent the better part of the last year revising my diet, I had elevated (but not diabetic) blood sugar levels in my last blood test a year ago, and two books helped me sort things out a lot - Wheat Belly and the Four Hour Body.

Stuff I've learned - your instinct to avoid splenda and other artificial sweeteners is spot on. When we eat those, even though it's not sugar, our bodies are tricked into having an insulin response. So having splenda, aspartame, etc. can actually increase our appetite, which leads to overeating, and it's why people who use a lot of the artificial stuff don't statistically weigh any less than those using straight sugar. The consensus seems to be that stevia is okay. If you want a morning sweet with your coffee ... the first thing I'd suggest is weaning yourself off the sweet, but if you aren't mentally there yet, a better option than the fruit spread on toast would be something like roasted rhubarb with stevia and cinnamon (the cinnamon helps control the insulin response) and use a crumble topping made from unsweetened coconut flakes and crushed nuts. Or do a chia pudding, made with almond milk, several heaping tablespoons of chia seeds, cocoa powder, vanilla extract, stevia if you need it and let that all sit overnight in the fridge. The chia seeds will bloat up like tapioca and thicken it. I also put a scoop of unflavored unsweetened protein powder in it when I do that, it helps with the thickening and the protein's always good, especially if you are limiting meat consumption.

Don't be rushing off to regular whole wheat bread in an effort to lower your blood sugar. To put it in perspective, the glycemic index of whole grain bread is 50 - 70 (and white bread is about the same). Compare that to a snickers bar, with a glycemic index of 40. If you must have sweets, reach for peanut M&M's, they have the chocolate wrapped around the protein and the glycemic index is 32. Not saying peanut M&M's are necessarily a better option than bread but if you are purely looking at the effect on your blood sugar, recognize that bread is not a great option - not even if it says whole wheat on the package.

If you are going to indulge in the occasional sweet roll or jam on toast, do damage control. A few things that help control insulin response: a few ounces of grapefruit juice beforehand, cinnamon, alpha-lipoic acid, flaxseed (ground for better absorption, or get flaxseed oil).

I would google "cauliflower pizza crust" to get an idea of how people are making breadlike substances without the wheat. We also use "riced cauliflower" occasionally as a rice substitute, especially good for something with a sauce like a curry. Look for lentil-based pappadums if you want a potatochippy sort of crunch snack. And using an immersion blender to mash cooked lentils or chickpeas into soup broth will give you that thick soup feel as if it was potato based.

Think about roasted eggplant and zucchini instead of potatoes. If you want a more potato-like substitue, try baking jerusalem artichokes. I prefer them now over potatoes, when they are baked the inside is like a mashed potato but creamier. Raw or quickly stir-fried, I think they'd make a good substitute for water chestnuts. Introduce them into your diet slowly because they cause gas in some people. I lucked out and it's not a problem for me, but I wouldn't eat 50 of them in an initial taste test, you know?

Switch to spiced buttered coffee without sweetener: http://www.democraticunderground.com/11574852 I've tinkered with my spices since then, now I have a homemade mix I add to it of unsweetened cocoa powder, cinnamon, chili powder, ginger and black pepper along with the butter because I wanted some kick to it.

Check your dairy choices for lactose (hidden sugars). In pure terms of lactose, skim and regular milk are bad and cream and butter are good. There's a tradeoff, the higher fat options have the least sugars. As long as you aren't combining them with high carbs though, fats won't make you fat. I didn't really learn that until this year, and it took me actually testing this out for myself to internalize that.

Also - get used to googling carbs and glycemic index of things. That's how you will learn things like if you are jonesing for a winter squash, pumpkin is the best choice with 3.5 grams of carbs per half cup, butternut squash is a medium choice with 7g, acorn squash is worse with 10g.

Sorry if this is too long and know-it-allish, I've been reading up on all this stuff somewhat obsessively for the last 8 months.

FarPoint

(12,427 posts)
80. The Sugar Busters Book is excellent for understanding the glycemic index.
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 10:21 AM
Apr 2012

I think the original book came out in the mid-90's.....you can find one E-bay for just a few dollars now. It's got a great education chapter on blood glucose management with rationale. Additionally, it has recipes.

elleng

(131,063 posts)
82. To all of the kind Cooks and Bakers who provided suggestions,
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 02:56 PM
Apr 2012

fwiw, I appear to have lost some weight in the month or so since I've been watching! Don't yet know about blood sugar level, as not seeing doctor for a while. Weight hadn't been a major concern, then I washed an old pair of pants a few weeks ago and could BARELY zip them. Well, today I tried again and VOILA!

THANKS, all!

E

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