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Related: About this forumOur old girl is on borrowed time
Jessie "the Chessie" (Chesapeake Bay Retriever), pictured about five years ago (yes, she was wearing her seat belt), was diagnosed with an "aggressive" cancer after we took her to the vet recently. She has a large growth on her rear end, nearly pear sized and shaped, along with numerous lipomas or fatty tumors elsewhere. We're taking it day by day before making the decision to take her back in to be put to sleep. For now, she seems as she always has - happy to be here, "woo-woo-WOOing" for her dinner or just when one of us comes home at the end of the day. We adopted her at the pound when she was about 1-1/2 to 2 years old. She will be the 4th dog and the 3rd Chessie we have had to put down in 20 years. None of them have been easy, but this girl has been special and may be our last animal.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)They add so much to our lives
zbdent
(35,392 posts)I recently lost a cat (20 years old) who appeared to suffer a seizure ... after holding her in my arms and comforting her, she was able to get on her feet. But I knew that I couldn't let her go through that again, and I knew it was time.
From your post, you will probably know this much better than I. (We also have a 14-year-old dog whom we thought we were going to lose last year, but made a recovery - kidney infection. She's still with us and still loved and cherished. But when the time comes, Mrs. ZBDent will be crushed, and I, too, will cry.)
IDemo
(16,926 posts)The most important thing now is obviously not to let her suffer simply because we want her with us. It sounded as if the cancer will hit the lymphatic system and then the lungs in a fairly rapid manner. I don't want to wait until she is in pain before doing the right thing. This is the worst part of being a pet owner, feeling as if you're killing your own child.
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)You will know when it was time....and it sounds as if that time is not here yet. She still seems to be enjoying life and happy, so she is not in any pain. Just love on her and be happy for each good day. I hope it is a long time before you have to make that decision.
fadedrose
(10,044 posts)After I lost mine many years ago, her spirit was still at arms' length at my side in bed for years. Cooking supper, she shows up once in a while now in the doorway to the dining room - especially when I cook chicken or beef..she was a lab-retriever mix....also cancer.
Dogs are the best thing that we were given by...whoever gave....
The miracle is that they can stand us...
TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)And I wondered if I might be going a bit bonkers. I just KNOW there were many times were both my deceased fur babies were right there with me (not at the same time though, but I always knew immediately which one it was). I SWEAR they were there though I couldn't see them. I KNOW they were. Just a few days ago I was sitting on the couch reading when I just knew there was a big doggie sitting in a very specific spot watching me and wanting something. Boo, the deceased one, used to do that in that exact spot but Yoshi, the current one, does it too. I absolutely expected to look up and see Yoshi there... I could hear his breathing and feel the heat coming off his body and the slight blocking of light... but Yoshi was outside in the yard and when I looked up there was nothing there... but I KNEW there still was though I just couldn't see it. I know it was Boo. I just know it. Though I felt very silly afterward out loud I told him of course I love him, I would always always love him, and he seemed satisfied and then he just wasn't there anymore, and I could tell the very moment that he left just as I can all the other times this happens.
Damn, I had always thought this was just a strange thing that only happened to me! What a relief it is to know that I'm not the only one!
CountAllVotes
(20,876 posts)I still hear my mom's Sheltie in the hallway at night. He used to groan when he was asleep.
As for the late Old Kitty and Mr. Flame, I still hear their very Siamese moans out in the yard where they are buried at times.
It is comforting to me to know they are still around and keeping an eye on things around here.
I just wish they were all still here physically but they aren't.
Just knowing that they haven't really "left" you is comforting I think.
It is sort of like the belief that the soul never dies. I believe this way personally. The soul never dies and everything that is alive has a soul, everything.
mopinko
(70,127 posts)dogs are a human achievement. something we should be very proud of.
fadedrose
(10,044 posts)I guess it's true. We haven't had much success with other animals, except kitties - and it's not just feeding them that does it. They respond to being pet and talked to, and they become more loyal than your family members - kids, husbands, wives, etc....
Lucky to be on this planet, I guess.
TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)Is this bone cancer? It sounds similar to what Boo had though his big tumor was in one of his knees. He ended up lasting a good deal longer than anyone thought. I don't know if it was shear stubborness on his part, the pain drug combo he was getting, dumb luck or what.
With any cancers other than pain control the hardest thing is to keep weight on them. Cancer just eats you. Boo was eating nearly three times what he normally did when he was healthy yet still lost weight and I was never able to get much more on him. At least there were times when he seemed to stop losing for a period though.
As my vet said, treat every day as a gift and try your hardest to assess their condition objectively and continually so you can make the right decisions at the right time. I ended up getting WAY WAY more gifted days than I ever expected, which on the one hand was fabulous, but on the other hand made me feel like each of those days brought me closer to losing him.
I'm sooooo terribly sorry for you and your fur baby! It sucks a WHOLE LOT.
IDemo
(16,926 posts)It's a large pink lump right underneath her tail, I regret I can't recall exactly what the vet called it.
You're right, it's one more day each day, but one less remaining at the same time.
TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)I can't remember what it's called either. Some cancers are just very sneaky and very aggressive, and it just totally sucks.
Feel free to PM me any time or post in here if you need a shoulder. I wish I had done a good deal more of that when I was going through losing Boo, but I didn't really think of it until after I had come back from the vet after having to put him to sleep. I'm not sure if it would have helped or not, but I wish I had at least thought of it.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)The steroid treatment really helped shrink the tumors but they are coming back and its a matter of weeks now.
I had to go back on the road so my wife and I packed everything up and now they are on the road with me.
IDemo
(16,926 posts)Just that she was beyond help from surgery. Was that a one-time injection?
grantcart
(53,061 posts)and after about 4 months its now half a pill a day.
Not only did it have a tremendous impact on the tumors it was generic and only cost $ 15 a month.
I am guessing that the difference is that we did catch it very early because she had a lump under her jaw that we caught very early and it sounds that her tumor was more concealed so that it was too far developed for steroids.
TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)It's just the pits going through losing a pet and knowing each day may be THE day. Losing a beloved pet is the pits however it comes about. It just plain sucks and hurts so much.
As I said to IDemo, feel free to PM me any time or post in here if you need a shoulder. And that goes for anyone else, too.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)My wife is going to be a complete wreck and that fact oddly keeps me from getting too emotional about it. I am bracing for being prepared for her devestating reaction.
She is Thai and their grief process is different. It is like a damn collapsing. Unconsolable for a few days and then they get over it faster than we do.
CountAllVotes
(20,876 posts)Thanks, and I do mean that (still going through hell here ....). Grief SUCKS!
Texasgal
(17,045 posts)What a beautiful baby. I am so sorry.
Jessie looks like he is loved. :hugs:
Kisses and lots of hugs here. I am so sorry for the news.
Stinky The Clown
(67,808 posts)I wish all of you peace. We watched our neighbors go through the very same trial with a Chessie that looked very much like that picture of Jessie.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)That's all any of us can hope for, I guess. Deciding when it's the right time is the hardest thing.
CountAllVotes
(20,876 posts)He had a huge tumor under his front leg. I had it surgically removed and it came back in less that one year.
I got very bad and he was in a lot of pain and crying a lot. He'd lie on his back and stretch the leg out to show you the tumor as if to say "help me!".
It all ended in 2005 when I had him put down.
He is buried in my backyard with his friends, the late Old Kitty and Mr. Flame.
I have never adopted another dog. This dog I had was my late mother's dog and I promised her I care for him for the rest of his life before she died; a promise I kept.
You'll know when the time has come, believe me on that one.
Chessie is one beauty of a dog you have there btw. You have my sympathy, believe me.
michaz
(1,352 posts)We were able to buy her 7 extra months with a regimen of Prednisone and Benadryl. She was not in any pain for all that time. It seemed to hold the tumor at bay and when it didn't anymore and it started to bother her and she didn't want to eat, she seemed to tell us it was time. My heart aches for you as I know this is so painful for you. We still miss her terribly even though we continue to have our dogs.
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ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)It just isn't fair that we get them for such a short time. My heart goes out to you. My Sheltie is named Jessie and we will keep your Jessie in our thoughts.
Chemisse
(30,813 posts)My girl is getting closer to her time as well, although I have no diagnosis in hand. I've never loved a dog so deeply, so I am pretty scared about the painful times ahead.
Best of luck to you getting through this. May your girl's last months be filled with peace and love.
IDemo
(16,926 posts)I spoke with the vet yesterday about measures we could take either to deal with the tumor itself or alleviate pain. Because of the location and size of the tumor (anal gland area) and her age, surgery isn't seen as an option. Steroids carry several risks as well, so the decision was made to try to lessen pain and keep an eye on her for signs of worsening. She will be on two Vetprofen (not Ibuprofen!) daily for now with other options available if these don't work.
Your responses have been greatly appreciated!
fadedrose
(10,044 posts)And the more it hurts, the greater the relationship with the animal. Wouldn't trade a minute - from the pup's crying the first night to the actual wagging of the tale and licking face and fingers....
I think we can all agree that losing our pets was sadder than losing a human contact, not in all, but in most cases....and you bring tears back to our eyes reliving and sharing...
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)I had to put my beloved Rottweiler down 1-1/2 years ago. She had liver and bone cancer. She was almost 13 years old. But when the pain and the other meds were not working any longer, she let me know that it was time for the final trip to the vet.
I know it will be heartbreaking for you to send Jessie to doggie heaven, but you will know when the pain gets the best of her.
phylny
(8,380 posts)I hope things go smoothly for all of you!
BeHereNow
(17,162 posts)My old girl has the same tumor on her tail- the last three
dogs we had all had it- makes me suspicious.
So far, Jinda Lee's tumor has biopsied negative, but I know
that could change. Too make matters worse, she pulled a ligament
in her rear knee protecting me and my daughter from some dumb asses
walking a giant wolf hound past our house OFF leash. NOT cool of them
at all.
I know you already know- all we can do is make their lives as enjoyable as
possible for as long as possible.
I know it is expensive, but I am all for letting them pass at home
in a safe and familiar environment.
I will never let one of my fur babies go to sleep in a vet's office again.
No matter the cost.
Hate to sound morbid, but I am putting a little away every month
should the time come for Jinda Lee.
I put my last dog down at home and she never saw it coming and
died with a smile as I fed her turkey in my lap...
Tears at the memory and dread knowing I'll have to do it again.
BHN