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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 10:54 AM Jan 2012

Gun laws must be driven by common sense

I'm a strong 2nd Amendment advocate, absolutely. But, every right and every law must be driven by common sense. The idea of opening up college campuses to guns cannot be reconciled with wisdom. Just ask those who will be forced to manage the consequences.

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"Weapons on campus create a whole, other dimension," Corich says. "Currently officers try to be very understanding." But if there's a high potential of weapons, of suspects being better armed than police, he says, tactics will change.

My straw poll shows strong opposition from faculty. Barry Vaughn, spokesman for the Maricopa Community College Faculty Association, points out that faculty who carry would be viewed as protectors, as "quasi-law enforcement personnel ... contrary to the nature of higher education faculty." He says, "We are teachers and scholars, not police."

Something parents and students need to remember: Police and lives depend on clarity in a violent situation.

http://www.ahwatukee.com/news/valley_and_state/article_f0d75ccc-debc-54cc-b8cb-92c31fe597e2.html

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Gun laws must be driven by common sense (Original Post) SecularMotion Jan 2012 OP
My problem with common sense is that there is no such thing as common sense slackmaster Jan 2012 #1
What actual increase in violence has been seen in the 70+ campuses.. X_Digger Jan 2012 #2
No one has made a case for why 21+yr olds who meet the criteria for concealed carry off campus... aikoaiko Jan 2012 #3
Your definition of common sensing being "whatever opinion I have"? ? S_B_Jackson Jan 2012 #4
Have legal, permitted carriers been the source of significant amounts of crime on college campuses? PavePusher Jan 2012 #5
The "common sense" of the gun control groups is rl6214 Jan 2012 #6
Don't expect an answer, or at least an honest answer. oneshooter Jan 2012 #7
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slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
1. My problem with common sense is that there is no such thing as common sense
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 10:57 AM
Jan 2012

If there was really a shared sensibility among humans that produced accurate answers to tough questions, then why do we have things like reason, logic, and the scientific method?

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
2. What actual increase in violence has been seen in the 70+ campuses..
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:37 AM
Jan 2012

that do not restrict concealed carry?

You have an empirical data set to analyze. Should be a piece of cake.

*taps foot*

aikoaiko

(34,172 posts)
3. No one has made a case for why 21+yr olds who meet the criteria for concealed carry off campus...
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:42 AM
Jan 2012

...are somehow more dangerous on campus and therefore on campus carry should be prohibited.

Police must assume that anyone is armed when they approach people on campus whether concealed carry is allowed or not.

S_B_Jackson

(906 posts)
4. Your definition of common sensing being "whatever opinion I have"? ?
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:55 AM
Jan 2012

When you can demonstrate that concealed carry on the many college campuses where it is already legal, perhaps I might be persuaded to your view. But the fact is that it has not presented as an issue.

Civil liberties should not be curtailed or infringed by the government absent a compelling state interests - and interest which you have yet to reasonably articulate.

 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
5. Have legal, permitted carriers been the source of significant amounts of crime on college campuses?
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 12:27 PM
Jan 2012

Yes or no answer please.

 

rl6214

(8,142 posts)
6. The "common sense" of the gun control groups is
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 12:32 PM
Jan 2012

we keep getting new laws passed against concealed carry and different types of weapons and the pro gun side gets nothing in return...take, take, take and then take some more.

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
7. Don't expect an answer, or at least an honest answer.
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 12:35 PM
Jan 2012

As such does not support his agenda.

Oneshooter
Armed and Livin in Texas

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