Do you ever use lead shot and does any of it go into the environment?

[CreekDog]

Just curious.

[tularetom]

1. Yes and probably

[littlewolf]

2. Use slugs. They are lead and yes they probably go into the environment. nt

[NoOneMan]

3. Only when Im plum out of DU rounds

[sylvi]

4. LOL

[guardian]

5. Just putting it back

into the ground from whence it came.

[CreekDog]

7. how do you put it in the ground? do you bury it?

does it come out of the ground in the same shape and size as when you return it?

[Eleanors38]

18. At shooting ranges, lead is "mined" out for re-use.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

6. Used to for trap . Nothing else is legal for use in competition

Shot is generally reclaimed and sold at most fields.

[CreekDog]

8. you mean in enclosed ranges? what about elsewhere?

[ProgressiveProfessor]

9. No I mean at outdoor trap and skeet ranges

The shot falls in predictable areas. It is dug up, washed, screened, and bagged. Reloaders buy it and use it. Its considerably cheaper than new.

[CreekDog]

11. but that's not all places where lead shot is used

correct?

[ProgressiveProfessor]

12. True, but there are a lot more shells shot in trap than bird hunting

Normally 250 a day per competitor.

[Eleanors38]

19. My guess is within 5 yrs lead shot for upland hunting will be banned...

It has been banned in all states for waterfowl for many years.

[ManiacJoe]

10. If I was still doing bird hunting,

I would be using steel shot. Not only is it better for the environment, but I am too lazy to try to figure out where it is still legal to use lead shot.

[ileus]

13. Only when I shoot or hunt.

[CreekDog]

15. isn't that obvious?

[iiibbb]

14. There was a study in Virginia a decades ago.

http://scholar.lib.vt.edu/theses/available/etd-09142002-113412/unrestricted/thesis.pdf

[jmg257]

16. Yes and yes. Bird, duck & rabbit hunting. The shot went into fields and

a tributary or 2. Also trap & skeet shooting.

Oh and plenty of rifle & pistol target shooting, with FMJ & lead bullets, often enough back then. A hillside was usually the backstop, even at PD ranges.

[holdencaufield]

21. But ... how do you know ...

... if it's Rabbit or Duck Season?

[jmg257]

22. Ha...the original Fudd. Nt

[Clames]

17. Everything I have is jacketed lead.

But I do most of my shooting these days in an indoor range with a state-of-the-art capture system so none of it gets into the environment. Be nice if the anti-gunners would stop their nonsense so I could get some M855A1 which is lead-free.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

23. M855A1 has a steel "penetrator tip"

If that qualifies as "AP", most indoor ranges would frown on it. Is it legal for non-military use?

Being lead-free, it's probably better for the general environment. In particular, it's better for the fish in Lake Erie, where the bullets fired through targets at Camp Perry splash down.

[Clames]

24. So does M855 green tip.

That's perfectly legal, depending on the state, as are many steel cored and steel jacketed milsurp ammo. I have a spam can of surplus M2 AP for my Garand. No, can't shoot the stuff at most indoor ranges.

[CokeMachine]

20. Do you really care??

Drain Hetchy Hetchy and pay for your water. We all lost a great canyon to SF's water demands. But it's only your crusade so explain it anyway you can.

[CreekDog]

26. I do care, or is your hate for the Bay Area the reason you don't care about lead in the environment?

and to show how wrong you are, I post on environmental topics and anti-poverty topics and civil rights topics all the time.

obviously when you're referring to me and a "crusade" you don't have any idea what you're talking about AND are likely mixing me up with someone else.

[CreekDog]

28. by the way, you and I have never interacted before on the Bay Area and/or Hetch Hetchy

I don't believe you have ever posted on this topic before (draining Hetch Hetchy) as well as the visceral hatred of the Bay Area that came out of nowhere related to water.

or have we we interacted on this topic before? hmmm?

[CokeMachine]

31. I love the Bay Area (north bay)

Been here 30+ years. I'm not a fan of SF (Giants excluded). I worked in SF when they built that long pipe line, at the end of Ocean Beach, out into the ocean to dump their sewage. It really turned me off on the City. I've done a lot of reading about Hetch Hetchy and understand that that canyon was as grand if not more grand than Yosemite. It pisses me off that it was destroyed to provide water to SF. Again, I love the Bay Area once you get outside of the concrete jungles.

[CreekDog]

33. then why did you say that my only "crusade" was about this issue with respect to the environment?

that's completely wrong.

you don't even know me.

[CokeMachine]

34. You are correct

I'm sorry -- Sometimes I spout off without thinking about what I'm saying. Take care

[CreekDog]

35. thank you. i've been there myself.

[montanto]

25. Yes and no.

I use lead shot, but I only shoot straight up, and it all goes into outer space.

[CreekDog]

27. that's the most vapid answer in this thread

you don't get a prize for that.

[montanto]

30. lol. ok

[krispos42]

29. Yes.

I shot some clays at a multipurpose shooting range (outdoor) and in my back yard, and I've been pheasant hunting. Bagged a few, missed a few more. Whatever didn't go into a bird went into the prairie.

[CreekDog]

32. when I was younger and shooting with some regularity, the lead issue turned me off shooting

i never felt good about putting lead shot into the environment and i stopped shooting with friends because of that.