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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:05 PM Feb 2013

Let’s Show the Gun Lobby the True “Connecticut Effect”

A lobbyist for a Wisconsin gun owners’ association reportedly told supporters at a local NRA meeting that they have a strong upcoming lobbying agenda, but that progress might be delayed due to the “Connecticut effect.” In other words, this lobbyist views revitalized national interest in stronger gun laws as a temporary blip in response to the December 14, 2012 massacre of schoolchildren and teachers in Newtown, Conn.—an inconvenience that will delay but not damage the gun lobby’s efforts.

The Sandy Hook massacre has indeed energized support for stronger gun laws. And those of us who support such legislation have a duty to make sure this energy is not a temporary blip, but the spark for true and lasting change. Statistical analysis suggests that deadly mass shootings, like the one at Sandy Hook, are indeed on the rise. Most mass shootings have involved the very weapons that advocates believe ought to be banned—assault-type weapons and/or high-capacity ammunition clips. And mass shootings are not the only concern. Since December 14, more than 1,700 Americans have died as the result of gun violence.

We owe it to the Sandy Hook victims and to the loved ones of those 1,700 dead Americans to redeem the term “Connecticut effect” from the gun lobby’s crass and calculated use.

Yeah, there’s a “Connecticut effect,” and it is this: Those of us who believe that it is possible to both uphold the Second Amendment and prevent some criminal gun use by passing common-sense gun laws, such as universal background checks and the banning of assault-style weapons and ammunition, will not give up. We will not forget the victims of Sandy Hook (or Aurora or Tucson or Virginia Tech….). We will not forget the thousands of people who have died and will likely die in less sensational but equally deadly shootings on our city streets or in back bedrooms or in domestic disputes gone terribly wrong.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/ellenpainterdollar/2013/02/itisenough-the-victims-of-gun-violence-deserve-a-vote/
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Let’s Show the Gun Lobby the True “Connecticut Effect” (Original Post) SecularMotion Feb 2013 OP
We can not allow these childrens memory to fade away, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!! Thinkingabout Feb 2013 #1
Very true. ... Deep13 Feb 2013 #3
The most fanatical gun owners see CT as an example of why gun control does not work... Deep13 Feb 2013 #2
The media turns the entire debate into a 30 second soundbite war bossy22 Feb 2013 #5
What the hell is assault style ammunition? bossy22 Feb 2013 #4
have not figured that out Duckhunter935 Feb 2013 #6
*shrug* 5.56mm? Deep13 Feb 2013 #7
maybe? bossy22 Feb 2013 #9
Buzz-word salad. ManiacJoe Feb 2013 #11
If the fanatics spent some of their energy towards safety as they are wanting to use their guns Thinkingabout Feb 2013 #8
LaPierre is a domestic terrorist. Deep13 Feb 2013 #10

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
1. We can not allow these childrens memory to fade away, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:14 PM
Feb 2013

The NRA seems only interested in selling weapons and this is not a good thing to have in the wrong hands, too many weapons are being sold to those with the attitude they need to use the weapons to attack innocent people. It does not matter the age of some people they are not mature enough to co troll their emotions.

Deep13

(39,154 posts)
3. Very true. ...
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:23 PM
Feb 2013

The background check needs to be more comprehensive and it needs to include all transfers.

Deep13

(39,154 posts)
2. The most fanatical gun owners see CT as an example of why gun control does not work...
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:22 PM
Feb 2013

But we have to base public policy on actual facts and not paranoid fantasies of fighting off Federal stormtroopers. That means 1. admitting that gun proliferation is a problem, 2. figuring out how to prevent guns from being used in crimes. Part of that will be restrictions and part will be educational. Part will be allowing law enforcement to do its job. It presently takes hours or even days for the ATF through phone calls and faxes to trace a gun from the manufacturer to the eventual end user. Sometimes they can't because of unregulated transfers. This is because they are not allowed to keep a list of who has bought a gun through a licensed dealer or not. That information is available anyway, but not quickly.

bossy22

(3,547 posts)
5. The media turns the entire debate into a 30 second soundbite war
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:50 PM
Feb 2013

If that stops maybe we will have a chance to do something constructive- instead of harping on stupid things like assault weapons.

Deep13

(39,154 posts)
7. *shrug* 5.56mm?
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 03:25 PM
Feb 2013

As you say, the Geneva Convention requires ammunition to be full metal jacket to avoid maiming soldiers hit with powerful rifle bullets.

Police, OTOH, carry hollow point pistol ammunition because it is safer than FMJ. There's less danger of over penetration and safer for the suspect since fewer shots will stop him.

bossy22

(3,547 posts)
9. maybe?
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 04:03 PM
Feb 2013

but it is probably just the term thata will be used to justify whatever type of ammunition they are attempting to ban

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
11. Buzz-word salad.
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 04:41 PM
Feb 2013

A little of this, a little of that, shaken together to be grammatically correct....

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
8. If the fanatics spent some of their energy towards safety as they are wanting to use their guns
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 03:35 PM
Feb 2013

We just might be able to get some good things happening. The US does not need LaPierre dictating to us what rules we should have with the information he has been giving.

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