Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumI own a couple of firearms and support rkba BUT...
these guys[link:
http:// www.youtube.com /watch?v=Dinl3ohoXtM
are the ones that scare me.
they are also why I support gun control.
Very immature. These are school shooters in waiting.
Obviously, I cannot figure out how to do the F'ing link.
Screw it.
Seen this video and immediately saw some kids who should not have the right to bear arms....
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)have to help me out here.
Bay Boy
(1,689 posts)And yes, I am serious.
brindleboxer
(53 posts)because a couple of dumb teenagers did a dumb parlor trick to mimic the appearance of fully automatic fire?
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)brindleboxer
(53 posts)Don't these kids seem as least moderately socialized and happy? I mean, I'm not saying they should have guns or that they hold a lot of promise as high functioning members of society, but they don't really seem to fit the school shooter profile.
GreenStormCloud
(12,072 posts)kudzu22
(1,273 posts)You can't spray fire from the hip without a pistol grip.
dtom67
(634 posts)yeah, I guess I don't like the trick, either. The only use for such a technique is if you don't care what you hit. ( i.e. shooting in a crowded cafeteria full of "Buhholes" , {to use the camera man's lingo} ).
The point is , I saw this video and immediately thought " wow! this is where school shooters come from ".
The " support gun control" thing was just an aside.
never understood what all the gun control ruckus was about-
I know that I will always be able to get guns, no matter what the law says. If there is a demand, there will be a supply...
maybe it would be better if fewer of us owned them.
besides, if the mass shootings happen with gun control. you would have your proof that there is something else at work here.
Yes, its the people- not the guns.
but it is the system itself that creates this dysfunction . That is what really needs to be changed.
Gun control would just increase my chances of survival if the shtf. You see, my firearms are to protect me and mine from the rest of you( not the government) as the system implodes. It is unsustainable. might not happen in my lifetime, but , as you say, "just in case" .
wasn't my intention to go off on a tangent; I just wanted to make fun of this video and see if anyone shared my assessment of the kids in it. Shoulda left the "gun control" part out, in order to maintain focus.
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)...by responsible adults. It should be offered in public schools for the benefit of young people who don't have access to a trusted family member or friend who is qualified to instruct them on the basic safety procedures and indoctrinate them into treating deadly weapons with due care and respect.
Under properly controlled conditions with appropriate safety procedures, a person who is sufficiently experienced in handling the M1 Garand can demonstrate the "Poor Man's Browning Automatic Rifle" trick without undue risk. The young man in the video clearly is not familiar with the weapon.
rdharma
(6,057 posts)It's a-holes like this that that give gun owners a bad name.
rdharma
(6,057 posts)And tell me what you see!
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)I wouldn't shoot in that location at all. That's a non-existent backstop.
rdharma
(6,057 posts)This guy is loading the rifle pointed down range as his buddy walks to check the target!
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Sort of looked like he put the empty en-bloc clip back in? In any case, his weapons handling is not acceptable for a cold range.
rdharma
(6,057 posts)..... into which he then inserts a loaded round!
Loudly
(2,436 posts)What would such a Constitutional reason be?
Why is the subject of arms mentioned in the Bill of Rights?
What inspires you to characterize it as a right?
holdencaufield
(2,927 posts)Ummmmm .... because it says so?
" the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." [Emphasis Added]
Or was this a trick question?
Loudly
(2,436 posts)And you cherry picked it to omit a well regulated militia.
You have a seriously heavy filter on it. To serve a very anti-social ends.
holdencaufield
(2,927 posts)... does it specify a purpose? Does it say
" the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed -- unless the people don't have a darned good reason for doing so"? Is there an unabridged version of the Constitution to which only you have access?
Courts -- and the President I ASSUME you voted for -- both have repeatedly affirmed that RKBA is an individual right, independent of militia membership. So, not germane to your questions about gun ownership being a right -- it is.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)holdencaufield
(2,927 posts)on both extremes
Loudly
(2,436 posts)There can be no right to the means of conveniently extinguishing all the genuine rights of others.
It might be a political indulgence of a particular personal kink. But it cannot be a right.
kudzu22
(1,273 posts)The right is there for the implied purpose of killing people. Protecting one's home, defending one's country, or in extreme cases overthrowing one's government. These are the purposes for which the founders included the second amendment, and they all involve killing people. Not hunting, not sport -- killing. The sooner we all admit that, the sooner we can have an honest discussion on violence.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)Bang 'em on the ground and look mean?
Or were the people to be trained and best-prepared to actually use them in defense of their liberties and to enforce laws?
It seems "the right to keep..." throws a bit of a kink in the 'bear arms = militia service only' argument, as militia service was a part time gig.