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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 01:31 AM Feb 2013

Debbie Halvorson goes down in special election. She blames Michael Bloomberg's anti-gun super PAC

Debbie Halvorson got an 'A' rating from the NRA. Robin Kelly got an 'F' rating from the NRA and she was proud of it.

Debbie Halvorson concedes, says PAC money played a role

February 26, 2013 (CHICAGO) -- Former U.S. Rep. Debbie Halvorson has conceded in the Democratic primary to replace ex-US Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr., saying it's clear that outside money played a role.

Halvorson said Tuesday night that she's called the primary election winner, former state legislator Robin Kelly.

Halvorson tells the Associated Press it's clear that money poured into the campaign by New York City Michael Bloomberg's super PAC affected the race.

The PAC spent $2 million on anti-gun ads targeting Halvorson for her position on gun control, including her opposition to a ban on assault weapons. Kelly is a strong supporter of gun control and supports such a ban.


http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/politics&id=9008581
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Debbie Halvorson goes down in special election. She blames Michael Bloomberg's anti-gun super PAC (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 OP
The NRA's candidate goes down, I am truly heartbroken. hrmjustin Feb 2013 #1
Good News.. Permanut Feb 2013 #2
Message auto-removed Floyd R Turbo Mar 2013 #29
Wingnut policies are "fiscal responsibility, supporting the constitution? Hhahhahahha uppityperson Mar 2013 #30
I'll say it again real slow.. Permanut Mar 2013 #31
When did it become OK for anti union billionaires to pour money in out of state elections? gejohnston Feb 2013 #3
Agreed, Lets not get carried away here bottomofthehill Feb 2013 #4
Robin Kelly who won is the progressive candidate endorsed by mucifer Feb 2013 #6
Thanks for the info, mucifer Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 #10
Thank you! nt Mojorabbit Feb 2013 #16
NRA superpac was busy? sigmasix Feb 2013 #5
It's surprising to see such a big fan of the Citizen's United decision on DU DonP Feb 2013 #15
Big money can buy elections! JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2013 #7
Another progressive D goes down....sad for the people of IL. ileus Feb 2013 #8
Robin Kelly was endorsed by Progressive Democrats for America Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 #9
Eleven teens die every day in car crashes while texting rangatang Feb 2013 #17
Texting while driving has been banned in numerous states Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 #18
Yes, you're correct...and shooting other people has been banned in all of them. rangatang Feb 2013 #21
The notion of banning the instrument? Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 #22
not today gejohnston Feb 2013 #23
Not exactly "nobody"...I've seen a lot of posts right here calling for total bans, but rangatang Feb 2013 #27
Maybe you missed all the anti-texting laws? uppityperson Feb 2013 #19
In in Chicago, what a shock n/t Pullo Feb 2013 #11
Halvorson was leading in the polls Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 #12
A pro gun control candidate wins a Democratic primary in Chicago Pullo Feb 2013 #13
Also consider who she is replacing TupperHappy Feb 2013 #14
and it cost him 2 million in Chicago just think how much he will have to spend else where. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2013 #20
that's before you get to some of his other projects gejohnston Feb 2013 #24
Who's afraid of the NRA? jpak Feb 2013 #25
Question for those happy with this outcome. Wyattbw09 Feb 2013 #26
This falls under the rubric of IOKIYAD rangatang Feb 2013 #28

Permanut

(5,609 posts)
2. Good News..
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 01:45 AM
Feb 2013

Time after time we see the wingnuts blaming somebody, anybody, libruls, the Prez, anybody for their failures. They would have us believe that their losses are simply a matter of strategy, of not placing the money smartly enough, or of not countering the librul media effectively. Never do we see them attribute their losses to their policies (which have been dissected in many threads here).

Response to Permanut (Reply #2)

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
3. When did it become OK for anti union billionaires to pour money in out of state elections?
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 02:04 AM
Feb 2013

He poured two million in one race against a dark horse that was going against the one favored by TPTB. I disagree with her that Bloomberg made much of a difference.
and when did Democrats become "wing nuts"?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debbie_Halvorson

bottomofthehill

(8,332 posts)
4. Agreed, Lets not get carried away here
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 02:08 AM
Feb 2013

This woman was not a right wing nut, she was a Democrat from a conservative district and still voted with the party 94 percent of the time. She was not the devil.

mucifer

(23,545 posts)
6. Robin Kelly who won is the progressive candidate endorsed by
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 06:23 AM
Feb 2013

Progressive Democrats for America for a lot more than just the gun issue.

Here are some positive things about her other than the gun issue thing:

Kelly has worked in public service[vague] in Illinois for 25 years. She was Director of the Crisis Nursery at Crittenton Care and Counseling Center from 1984 through 1987, then Associate Director of The Youth Shelter from 1987 through 1990. From 1990 through 1992 she was Minority Student Services Director at Bradley University. From 1992 through 2006 she served as a Director of Community Affairs in Matteson. She is co-founder and past president of the Unity Coalition of the South Suburbs.

Kelly has served as a Commissioner on Human Rights in Cook County since 1998, and a Board Member of the Hate Crimes Commission since 2005. She has been a board member for the Rich Township Food Pantry since 1994 and the Illinois Theatre Center since 1993.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_Kelly

sigmasix

(794 posts)
5. NRA superpac was busy?
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 04:22 AM
Feb 2013

The nuts with the NRA like to brag about how they support pro-NRA politicians with loads of political spending and voter education outreach. Why didn't the NRA folks come out in support of the pro-NRA politican? I guess super pacs are only evil when they support the enemy.

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
15. It's surprising to see such a big fan of the Citizen's United decision on DU
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 05:45 PM
Feb 2013

Bloomie's Super Pac is a direct result of the SCOTUS CU decision.

I admire your courage, since most DU members are viruelntly opposed to people like the Kochs, Karl Rove and the other Super Pacs that CU made "legit".

Or do you just love it when it's used against a Dem you consider not suitably anti gun?

FWIW, I don't think the NRA supports anyone in local primaries and didn't support Halvorson in her run against JJJr last year's primary either. They did support her in her run against Adam Kinzinger (R) in the old 11th district prior to major redistricting.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
9. Robin Kelly was endorsed by Progressive Democrats for America
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 02:47 PM
Feb 2013

She's great....and she has an 'F' rating from the NRA.

 

rangatang

(9 posts)
21. Yes, you're correct...and shooting other people has been banned in all of them.
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 08:48 PM
Feb 2013

I'm talking about the notion of banning the -instrument- that is used by people, not the device itself.
Your comparison is a non-sequitor, to be consistent, the anti-gun people assuming their real agenda is to protect people should be lobbying to outlaw mobile phones because they are the exact analogue to guns when it comes to deadly consequences.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
22. The notion of banning the instrument?
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 08:54 PM
Feb 2013

Nobody, from the President to Congress, has even talked about banning all guns.

You've been misinformed.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
23. not today
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 09:02 PM
Feb 2013

but at the rate the definition of "assault weapons" keeps changing........ then there are those "sniper rifles", and what Australian gun control advocates now call "hand machine guns hidden in glove boxes"

 

rangatang

(9 posts)
27. Not exactly "nobody"...I've seen a lot of posts right here calling for total bans, but
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 06:52 PM
Feb 2013

for the sake of keeping apples compared to apples, where then is the push to ban certain 'features' of those deadly phones. Maybe banning their ability to send texts, that's a completely unnecessary
added capability and does nothing to enhance their basic function. Think of it as like the hysteria
generated by certain cosmetic features of guns...like hand grips that are more vertical than horizontal.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
12. Halvorson was leading in the polls
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 03:14 PM
Feb 2013

not too long ago. Bloomberg's super PAC then unleashed its fury. This was a Dem primary, but whoever wins it will obviously win the seat.

Pullo

(594 posts)
13. A pro gun control candidate wins a Democratic primary in Chicago
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 03:38 PM
Feb 2013

Doesn't mean much. Now if taking a pro gun stance in, say, rural Alabama cost a candidate a race, Bloomberg's accomplishment would be worth paying attention to.

TupperHappy

(166 posts)
14. Also consider who she is replacing
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 04:24 PM
Feb 2013

I hardly think Jesse Jackson Jr. was a rabid right-winger when it comes to gun policy. Now if she were replacing someone who also had an 'A' rating from the NRA that might actually mean something.

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
20. and it cost him 2 million in Chicago just think how much he will have to spend else where.
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 08:35 PM
Feb 2013

Spendya money, Bloomberg - it's good for the economy.

 

Wyattbw09

(7 posts)
26. Question for those happy with this outcome.
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:14 AM
Feb 2013


I know this might not be the best way to kick off my time with DU, however it did prompt me to open this account. However, there appears to be some inconsistency between the oft touted idea on DU that big money should get out of controlling the election process and the joy and happiness that some seem to be showing when big money seems to come though for their preferred candidate.

Big outside money influencing this election should be condemned irrespective of who won or lost.
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