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Serve The Servants

(328 posts)
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 03:03 AM Mar 2013

CA Bill to seize registered assault weapons dead, author says

"SACRAMENTO — One of the most controversial gun-control bills introduced in California this year — a move to seize the 166,000 registered assault weapons grandfathered in under the state's ban — is dead, its author said Thursday.
When Assemblyman Rob Bonta, D-Oakland, introduced AB174 in January, it was designed to declare the Legislature's intent to end all "grandfather clauses" allowing ownership of assault weapons and large-capacity magazines.

But on Tuesday, he gutted and amended the bill to address public-school health centers instead..."

http://www.chicoer.com/news/ci_22846837/bill-seize-registered-assault-weapons-dead-author-says

Remember, gun registration does NOT lead to gun confiscation.
Yeahhhh.... That's the ticket!



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Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
2. Let them move then
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 03:36 AM
Mar 2013

That's what gays have to do to get legally married in other states. And this is only for a silly gun, otherwise get a handgun or shot gun. It's too bad it failed. And they could have paid them in a tax refund for their guns instead of paying them directly. If you owe taxes, then part or all is paid with your gun up to $500.00.

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
6. Fourth Amendment......... "Fair market value"
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 12:05 PM
Mar 2013

So you would approve if the owners are having their property stolen?

 

Clames

(2,038 posts)
11. Maybe you should actually try reading the link in the OP.
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 05:35 PM
Mar 2013
And they could have paid them in a tax refund for their guns instead of paying them directly.




"It would be extremely expensive, for one — if you were going to take back guns that were grandfathered in, you would have to provide market compensation for them," he said. "I didn't think that made the most sense from a fiscal perspective."


Guess you aren't aware of what has happened to the market value for these firearms in the last few months.

Bonta also said he was keenly aware of the gun lobby's assertion that any state or national registration of firearms is merely a prelude to confiscation — something his bill actually pursued.


 

sylvi

(813 posts)
14. "... otherwise get a handgun or shot gun..."
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 08:00 PM
Mar 2013

You mean those "kinder, gentler" guns that are involved in 97% of firearms deaths annually?

 

guardian

(2,282 posts)
3. But but but
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 08:29 AM
Mar 2013

"nobody wants to take your guns". To think otherwise you must be a [select one or more of the following]

a. gun nut
b. delicate flower
c. paid NRA shill
d. blood thirsty psychopathic killer wannabe
e. crazy
f. etc.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
4. A little good news for CA citizens.
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 09:10 AM
Mar 2013


Now to ditch the dumbass law completely, so the people can once again enjoy these fine devices.

petronius

(26,602 posts)
5. Good - I hope AB 187 (ammunition tax) meets the same fate
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 11:31 AM
Mar 2013

It has always seemed strange to me that a bill can be rewritten to be completely different: why not just introduce a new bill?

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
8. The cat is out of the bag. They really do want to take peoples' guns.
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 12:36 PM
Mar 2013
Bonta also said he was keenly aware of the gun lobby's assertion that any state or national registration of firearms is merely a prelude to confiscation — something his bill actually pursued.

"I didn't want to have a bill that plays into that argument," he said.


kudzu22

(1,273 posts)
9. Registration has always been a prelude to confiscation
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 01:05 PM
Mar 2013

Registration serves no useful purpose except to identify arms for later confiscation. No crimes are ever solved by consulting a gun registry. So why have one except to know where to go when it's time to take them?

Pullo

(594 posts)
10. Canada's failed gun regisrty serves as a greaty example of why registration is a bad idea
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 04:29 PM
Mar 2013

It was a billion-dollar boondoggle. It proved to be fairly useless tool for addressing gun violence.

If Canada had followed up and began confiscating firearms, then the registry would have served a useful purpose.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
13. The NFA registry has been fairly successful, and wouldn't be a steaming pile of shit example
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 07:53 PM
Mar 2013

if not for the fucking Hughes Amendment.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
16. At the time, yes.
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 03:04 AM
Mar 2013

Now the worst worn out old M16 commands upwards of 16k USD, and fewer than five of them have ever been used in the commission of a crime.

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