Low class nonsense during MAIG bus tour

[gejohnston]

MAIG borrowed Dick Armey's "grassroots bus tour" tactic but called theirs "no more names." During their stop in NH became the theater of the absurd.
First, let me start off with this:

"I think this is a joke," said Tony Mayfield of Hillsborough, who brought his AR-15 rifle and Sig Sauer T39 handgun to the rally. "We have, for all intents and purposes, a corporation from out of state doing this little publicity stunt here."
Rally organizers, whose bus had Texas license plates, refused to speak to a New Hampshire Union Leader reporter and referred him to the organization's national headquarters.

While agree with his sentiment, showing up armed is uncool. One thing I agree with Florida is that weapons are not allowed at any political rally, which is why the RNC convention was a "gun free zone." It may be legal in NH, still uncool and counter productive.

and finish with this:

Some of the loudest shouts came when a reader spoke the name of Tamerlan Tsarnaev, one of the Boston Marathon bombing suspects who was killed by police during a gunfight.

I'm sorry, that's disgusting bullshit. He was shooting at the cops first.

Oh, on the bright side:

Not all the discourse involved shouting. For several minutes, Mitch Kopacz, president of the Gun Owners of New Hampshire group, debated gun control with state Rep. Sylvia Gale, D-N.H. Neither raised their voice and they shook hands after talking, with Gale calling Kopacz "respectful."

http://www.unionleader.com/article/20130619/NEWS07/130619169/0/SPORTS07

[oneshooter]

1. "respectful" which is more than can be said of Group Bansalot and their minions.

[rl6214]

2. Tsarnaev was killed when he was run over by his brother

That should be counted as a traffic accident, not gun violence, even though HE attacked the police and was a terrorist.

[rdharma]

3. With these armed gun nuts showing up in public in an attempt to intimidate,.......

........ it's just a matter of time until something really bad happens!

[gejohnston]

4. I doubt they were loaded

but MAIG's list of names would use some trimming.

[rdharma]

6. Safety Rule #1 - Assume all guns are loaded.........ALWAYS!

Why are these dumbasses displaying their gatts in public in the first place?!!!!

[gejohnston]

7. I do, when handling them

to answer your question, ask them or at least him. The article mentioned one guy.

[rdharma]

9. "The article mentioned one guy." But I saw a bunch of them packing........

.... and waving tea bagger flags.

[gejohnston]

10. Two or three Gadsten flags

One guy looks like a pistol in a IWB holster. Kaki pants and dark blue shirt is a private security uniform, I saw the tazing from a different angle. Others could be phones or pistols but really can't tell on some of them. I'm guessing you are not counting the cops?

[rdharma]

11. What's this "Not counting the cops" crap?!!!!

Seriously!

Look at the OP and note the one guy (a spokesman?) was packing an AR-15 and a SIG handgun.

When you defend buffoons, don't be too surprised or hurt if folks include you with those same buffoons!

[gejohnston]

12. I'm not defending anyone, read the OP.

The article says the one guy with a rifle, as I mentioned. You started ranting about more, I'm guessing from the video. There were cops in the video. I'm guessing you can't tell the difference.

[rdharma]

13. No, I can tell cops (plain clothes or otherwise) from a-hole tea billies packing!

[gejohnston]

14. could have fooled me

got that anti rural bigotry going? All of the tea baggers I come across are well off former New Yorkers and New Jerseites that live in The Villages

BTW, do you have a point?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Villages,_Florida

[rdharma]

16. I see you have YOUR point!

To accuse me of "rural bigotry"! Does that ever work for you?

Dude, you don't know where I live? I AM MR. RURAL!

[gejohnston]

18. tea billies

that looks like a duck to me. You might think it is a swan.
I go out of my way to make my point obvious. No, I don't know where you live. Mind reading isn't one of my many talents.

[rdharma]

19. Tea Billies?

Last edited Thu Jun 20, 2013, 08:04 PM - Edit history (1)

You have trouble with that term? Does it offend Tea Party folks?

[Eleanors38]

5. Agreed. There is no reason for gun display. Perhaps the new group IFOA...

can raise a new standard of comportment at demonstrations.

It occurs to me that 2A activists usually express themselves using other methods (letter-writing, e-mail efforts, lobbying, etc.), and are not used to on-street demos, marches and such. They probably aren't aware that street "theater" has its own "cool medium" standards which can have counter-productive results if not met. It's a legitimate criticism of 2A activism.

[rdharma]

8. Actually they're just morons who attempt to intimidate others........

..... with their gatts.

Primitive knuckle-draggers!

[Eleanors38]

15. Put some new bait on your line. NT

[rdharma]

17. Put some new THOUGHT in your posts........

Otherwise, you're just too easy to read!

[CokeMachine]

20. You and your friends' bait is really getting smelly.

Time to change it or you won't catch anything. Just trying to help -- really I am.

Please give BB and SU my best!!

Have a good night and Bless Your Heart!!

[rdharma]

25. Are you running a high fever?

Sounds like it. Because you are talking crazy nonsense! Seriously, dude!

[CokeMachine]

31. Nope -- Just checked it and it's normal.

Have to do that a few times a day. But thanks for asking!! Ever hear of Diverticulitis. Probably not with your snide remarks. Shoo go away!!

[AtheistCrusader]

33. Ahahaha a Jury kept your post but hid post 32

LAWL

[sarisataka]

36. From another jury

Juror #* voted to HIDE IT and said: *** is a gunner asshole. I will always vote to hide any gunner asshole post without exception.

But juries always base the decisions on community standards and DU is a haven for RW gun fanatics

It seems much of DU has lost their collective minds lately.

[jimmy the one]

37. counter balanced

sarisataka wrote: Juror #* {guncontrol juror} voted to HIDE IT and said: *** is a gunner asshole. I will always vote to hide any gunner asshole post without exception.

Which counterbalanced a pro gun juror, on the same jury, who wrote this:

LEAVE IT ALONE: Nothing here worthy of an alert. Perhaps had the alert comments not just repeated the post and highlighted the infraction I'd have voted to hide but I see nothing worthy of either a hide or the alert

Yeah, I was in fact the alerter, & I did indeed repeat & highlight the infraction so as to clarify to the jury what the infraction was. DUH. So what we have here is a progun juror saying it was my fault for pointing out the infraction (so that he voted to 'leave it') rather than ruling on the infraction itself!!!!

I'd say it was a push on the voir dire, but I won the decision 4-2.

[gejohnston]

38. I wouldn't say a pro gun juror

simply a fair juror. No, there was nothing there worth alerting on.

[sarisataka]

39. I disagree

I am not sure that was a pro-gun juror. Had I been on the jury (i received the alert though a different path) I would said leave it on the point that it focused on an opinion.

I do not base my jury decisions on alerter, poster or person being replied to. I will look at the statements and the context of the thread. The topic does not affect me either way, I have voted to hide pro-gun, leave pro-control and the opposite.

The blanket- I will vote this way on this subject- is, IMO a form of censorship.

I won't criticize the alert as that is the choice of the person making the alert. In this case I would not have voted hide.

[jimmy the one]

51. in fuller context

sari: Had I been on the jury I would said leave it on the point that it focused on an opinion

Did you see the post in full context? here it is, premium responded uncivilly twice, whereas CTYankee was civil throughout:

OP: A firearms manufacturer is leaving Connecticut for the gun-friendly state of South Carolina to avoid the tough gun-control law passed in the wake of the Newtown school shooting

1 CT yankee reply to 'oneshooter': 13. some will gladly move along with the company. I'm sure they'll be happier there. They as much as said they don't like it in CT any more. I do not rejoice in anyone losing work But our economy is not as manufacturing based as it once was. Plus, it's not like there is no competition out there in the world for gun making. Look, I didn't close that manufacturing company. It was a management decision, which is not yours or mine to decide.

premium's reply to CY yankee: It was a management decision due to the new gun control laws your lawmakers passed with the approval of the residents, so that would make you, in a sense, responsible for their departure.

CT Yankee reply to premium: Perhaps the Newtown shooting had something to do with their decision. It was shocking to US. We never wanted that to happen again. 20 little kids blown to bits by a gunner with an assault weapon. I know you don't care and don't think about Newtown but we do. It is our state and our responsibility to do what we can to keep that from happening again. It is unseemly that there is more concern here for the workers who are alive than for the kids that are dead, just as it was unseemly for the head of that company to whine about the state of CT being mean to them, in the face of the Newtown horror. Words fail me...

premium to CY Yankee: Ah, throw up the emotional angle and accuse me of caring more for the workers than the children. You can think whatever the fuck you like, I won't even answer that bullshit angle. Have a good day.
A Jury voted 4-2 to hide this post on Fri Jun 21, 2013, 02:13 PM. Reason: This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate. (See Community Standards.)

Let's just say that my chivalry ain't dead yet.

sari: In this case I would not have voted hide

If I'd had my druthers, I'd've voted to smack him.

[Eleanors38]

21. You READ?

[CokeMachine]

22. They believe they do so that's all that matters!!

With the rash of shit being posted here from the other group you'd think they all just graduated for some sort of -- I can't even tell what. But they are cute in their own way. I think I'll go over to their bansalot group and re-read the last week's posts. I should be back soon. Back already -- I thought it'd take at least 30 seconds!! Five seconds I'll never get back

Note to jurors -- I didn't attack any posters like that group (both of them) usually does.

[Eleanors38]

23. Yout life has been appreciably shortened.

[Lurks Often]

24. But do they comprehend what they read is the real question n/t

[rdharma]

26. I've had it with these gun hugger fools brandishing their gatts in public protests!

Really....... do you think this crap wins friends for your "cause"?

[gejohnston]

27. read the OP

I said it didn't.

[rdharma]

28. Just reinforcing because your OP was weak on that point! nt

[gejohnston]

29. really?

While agree with his sentiment, showing up armed is uncool. One thing I agree with Florida is that weapons are not allowed at any political rally, which is why the RNC convention was a "gun free zone." It may be legal in NH, still uncool and counter productive.

I'm guessing you just kind of skimmed the OP.

[rdharma]

30. No. I think dumbasses with guns at demos are bad news.........period! nt

[beevul]

34. As if there wasn't already enough evidence of it...

An anti-gunner posts this and its just hunky dory:


Are you running a high fever?

Sounds like it. Because you are talking crazy nonsense! Seriously, dude!

(post 25 in this thread)

While a pro-gun poster posts this and it gets hidden:

Are you running a high fever?

Sounds like it. Because you are talking crazy nonsense! Seriously, dude!

(post 32 in this thread)


Broken.jury.system.

Objective standards are needed.

[gejohnston]

35. according to some accounts,

one in 12, for a total of 50, of the list are criminals or criminal suspects shot legally by private persons defending themselves or by cops including Christopher Dorner. While they were killed with guns, they were not murdered.
Then there are the suicides...............

[rdharma]

40. Update: Gun nut heckler arrested by police "apologizes" w/video

A few days ago we told you about a gun nut who managed to get himself tasered after he berated and tried to intimidate a speaker at a gun control rally. As the cops came in to ask him what he thought he was trying to prove he then went on to assault a police officer, resisted arrest, and all the rest of it. In the clip we also see another man who kicks a set of keys away from police officers on the ground while screaming expletives at them. Turns out that guy runs a gun shop himself, one that also does, or at least used to before this incident, do business with local police departments.

HOOKSETT, N.H. —The owner of Riley's Sport Shop in Hooksett has apologized for his actions during a gun rally that ended with another man in handcuffs.

As police tried to make the arrest a struggle ensued, and Riley's owner Ralph Demicco kicked a set of keys that had fallen out of an officer's pocket. Video also shows Demicco leaning in and yelling expletives.

In a letter to Concord Police Chief John Duval, Demicco admitted to doing that, and said he regrets it. He called his actions deeply inappropriate.

"It created a situation that I had grave concerns for my officer's safety and quite honestly, the others who were there, who were protesting and doing so lawfully," Duval said of the incident.

The Concord Police Department does business will Riley's, but the chief did not comment on whether anything will change.

http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/taxonomy/term/7886

Yup! OP is correct about "low class" scum at MAIG rally!

[gejohnston]

41. If you look at the video

at 1:27 he simply put his fingertips on the cop without harm intended.
"gun nut"? Dehumanizing the you don't like. Classy.
What does that have to do with Bloomberg's group listing terrorists, mass murderers, and home invaders as victims of gun violence, even if they were killed with a car? CR? That's pretty close to the bottom of the barrel

[rdharma]

42. "he simply put his hand on the cop without harm intended"

If you look at the video I just posted, you'll see that's not all he did!

Did you check out the video from the "Crooks & Liars" site?

[gejohnston]

43. check the one on the edit

but the guy you were referencing to, he did not touch an officer. As the video said, he kicked keys that fell out of a pocket. The video shows that.

[rdharma]

44. So he's just guilty of being a flaming low class a-hole, eh?

[gejohnston]

45. guilty of kicking keys, low class.

MAIG padding their list with terrorists and criminals that were killed in self defense were being flaming low class.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

47. Selling that data...

...as opposed to just asking for contributions ought to get one a fraud charge.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

46. Any good lawyer will either....

...beat a "flaming low class a-hole" rap or bargain it down to "smoldering a-hole" and probation/community service.

[rdharma]

48. Riiiiiight!

Caught on tape "interfering police officer" who is making an arrest! Good luck with that!

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

49. Pardon me...

...I seem to have misplaced my "joke" and "humor" tags. Have you seen them???

[rdharma]

50. Like a "laugh track"...... so folks can tell when you tried to make a "funny"?!!!!