Edmond, OK - Homeowner Shoots and Kills Home Intruder

[NaturalHigh]

EDMOND, Okla. —A homeowner shot and killed an intruder overnight in Edmond.

Police said 20-year-old Marlow Dwayne Wilson Jr. broke into a home on Cobblestone Court, near Danforth Road and Boulevard Street, about 3:30 a.m. and was shot by the owner. Wilson was pronounced dead on the scene.

The homeowner told police he was only protecting his life and the lives of his wife and two children.

“You are well within your rights to use lethal force if you feel your life is being threatened,” said Edmond police spokeswoman Jenny Monroe.

More...

http://www.koco.com/news/oklahomanews/edmond/police-edmond-homeowner-kills-intruder/-/11777934/20676130/-/8240ipz/-/index.html

[Purveyor]

1. Someone breaks into my house at 3:30 in the morning, they shall meet the same fate.

Just the way it is in this house.

[NaturalHigh]

3. Yeah, I feel the same.

I would hate to have to take a life, but no way is somebody going to hurt my family if I can help it.

[CokeMachine]

15. Be careful responding to this flame baiter.

His whole shtick is to bait you into a jury hide. It's his game now and then!!

[rdharma]

16. Why did you say "break in"?

QUOTE: “We don’t know exactly how he got in the house,” said Monroe.

I would think if there was forced entry........ the cops would see the evidence of that.

[gejohnston]

18. That's what the article said

Police said 20-year-old Marlow Dwayne Wilson Jr. broke into a home on Cobblestone Court, near Danforth Road and Boulevard Street, about 3:30 a.m. and was shot by the owner. Wilson was pronounced dead on the scene.

[rdharma]

21. Break in......... but they didn't know how?

Open window with screen off? Pried or kicked in door? Something doesn't smell right here.

I wonder how old the owner's "children" are? Hmmmmmmmm?!!!!!

[gejohnston]

24. So the investigators might have forgot to tell the public affairs guy

he did say "exactly".

[rdharma]

27. "Exactly" means one of two things........

They really don't have a friggin' clue....... or they aren't willing to contradict the owner's story on what happened because it's a can or worms they could never prove in court and don't want to deal with. I'm betting the latter.

[gejohnston]

30. It means they didn't tell the PA guy because it

was part of the investigation.
I actually doubt it. What can and can not be proven is for the DA do decide.

[rdharma]

38. And what is released...... is controlled by the DA.

Evidently he/she doesn't want to expend effort on this one.

[gejohnston]

39. Ummmmmmmm no.

not how it works. The cops don't work for the DA.

[rdharma]

41. You ever work in LE?

When it get's to the investigative stage/PR stage.........

You've been watching too much TV if you believe........ "the DA's job is to seek justice"...... or some such shit. Seriously!

[premium]

47. Yeah, I worked LE for 30+ years

and it is the DA's job to seek justice, the DA's office has wide latitude on whether or not to charge someone with a crime.
A District Attorney may very well believe someone is guilty, but if they also believe they won't get a conviction, then they're not going to waste the tax payers money prosecuting a case they don't think they can win.

True story, I arrested a suspect in the Toiyabe National Forest for cultivation of MJ, thought I had the guy cold, presented my evidence to the local DA, he refused to prosecute because I hadn't actually caught the perp in the act of harvesting his crop, I, nor the DA, could prove beyond a reasonable suspicion, that this guy was the owner of the crop, even though we both knew it, because of the fact that we couldn't prove definitively that the perp owned the crop, the DA declined to press charges.

BTW, LEA's don't work for the DA's office, they work in conjunction with the DA's office.

Question, have you ever worked in LE as a cop?

[Purveyor]

20. I don't give a shit if I inadvertently left my door 'unlocked'. You come traipsing into my house,

uninvited at that time of day, I can only conclude you are there to do harm but I will give one warning.

Just one.

[rdharma]

22. There was no mention of ANY warning.

And no mention of type of threat.

Although, I admit I wouldn't wait for a threat IF it was an actual break-in and not one of my daughter's boy friends paying a mid-night visit.

Think about it!

[Travis_0004]

56. Probably because the story was very short.

They don't go into details. Maybe a warning was given, maybe it wasn't.

Also, I'm assuming it wasn't his daughters boyfriend, because it if was, I'm sure that would have been mentioned.

We don't even know if his kids were of dating age anyway.

At least from the sounds of it, the guy was in a house he shouldn't be in, and it was a good shoot.

[NaturalHigh]

26. You are very generous to give a warning.

I assume that my warning would be when I cocked my 12-gauge. If that distinctive sound doesn't stop an intruder, then I assume he's not going to be stopped without force.

[Purveyor]

37. I would at least give one shout-out after the rack just in case it was a drunken neighbor that

pulled into the wrong drive but I hear you.

BTW...We live in the sticks and we have those out here and many of us don't hesitate tapping on our neighbors doors and then proceed to walk in if unlock...during the daylight hours.

And no, we don't lock our cars at night.

Good ole Waterloo, MI!

[GreenStormCloud]

61. That is one more warning than I would give. N/T

[rdharma]

2. Tennessee 6-month-old fatally shot as parents fight over handgun

Tennessee 6-month-old fatally shot as parents fight over handgunBy David Edwards

A Tennessee couple is facing charges after a domestic dispute ended with the death of their 6-month-old daughter.

Witnesses told WBIR that 26-year-old Angela Major and 40-year-old Ken Mason were fighting over a handgun that discharged, sending a bullet into the head of the child who was sitting at their feet at the time. A second round reportedly went through the hand of the father.

The Knox County Sheriff’s Office had not released details about where the child was shot or how many bullets were recovered at the scene.

~snip~

The Knox County Sheriff’s Office said that both parents had an extensive criminal history. Major has past convictions for aggravated burglary and vandalism. Mason had an outstanding warrant for failing to obey a court order.

Major and Mason were each being held in lieu of $1 million bond.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/06/20/tennessee-6-month-old-fatally-shot-as-parents-fight-over-handgun/

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

4. and...

???

[CokeMachine]

13. And this has fuck all to do with this thread????

Just more flame bait from you -- I guess. Please tell the bonger I said Hello!!

[premium]

48. WTF does this have to do with illegally entering

someone's home at 3:30 am? Unless it's just more flamebait.

[rdharma]

5. Wichita man fatally shoots himself at range

Police: Wichita man fatally shoots himself at range

WICHITA — A 51-year-old Wichita man apparently committed suicide by shooting himself in the head Monday at an indoor shooting range near 13th and Oliver, police said.

The shooting occurred while the Bullseye Shooting Range, at 14th and Terrace, was full and while the man was alone in a shooting lane that is separated from other lanes by reinforced concrete walls, police Sgt. John Hoofer said. “There were a lot of people there,” Hoofer said.

The shooting was reported at about 12:09 p.m., according to emergency dispatchers.

The man was taken in very critical condition to Wesley Medical Center, where he was pronounced dead, Hoofer said.

The investigation indicates that the man was at the range for the first time and that he rented a handgun and received instructions on how to safely use the gun. The man had shot several times at a target before shooting himself in the head, Hoofer said.

Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/2011/12/26/2153268/police-wichita-man-fatally-shoots.html#storylink=cpy

[NaturalHigh]

6. Yeah I get it. You don't like guns.

What do your posts have to do with my OP? Do you hijack threads for your amusement, are you just looking for attention?

[premium]

49. Nothing at all to do with the thread.

This poster is known for coming into the RKBA group and posting flamebait to try to get posts hidden. We've had his number for awhile now.

[NaturalHigh]

57. Kind of what I figured.

I don't post here very often, so I'm not familiar with all the trolls yets.

[premium]

58. If you visit and read the comments on this group,

it'll become pretty obvious who comes here for an honest debate and who's here for nothing more than to bait and try to get members posts hidden or members banned.
Unlike the Castle Bansalot group, we welcome honest and vigorous debate.
Welcome to the gungeon where things get pretty wild sometimes.

[NaturalHigh]

59. Thanks.

[gejohnston]

8. I used to live six blocks from there.

right across the street from McDonald Golf Course. Almost got killed by some duffer's slice once when a ball missed my head by six inches.
Question is, why did he commit suicide, and why did he do it there? There are easier ways of doing it. Being clean cut at Harry and Ollie's bar, which McConnell's commander put off limits, is one.

[rdharma]

10. "Almost got killed by some duffer's slice once when a ball missed my head by six inches."

And you didn't shoot the guy?

[gejohnston]

12. naww, I prayed to Zeus and he smited him

for me. Lighting bolts on cloudless days are really cool.

[rdharma]

17. No, man that's not Zeus!

That's Donnar or Thor who flings the lightning bolts in that hood!

[gejohnston]

19. Salmoneus would disagree about that.

What does Thor have to do with the Greeks?

[rdharma]

25. "What does Thor have to do with the Greeks?"

He doesn't. But this is Edmond, KA...... not NYC or Chicago. No Greeks in Edmond!

[gejohnston]

28. OK, not KA.

It it were NYC or Chicago, the household could have very well been dead at the hands of the BandE. What's your point?

[rdharma]

32. OK or KA...... no Greeks.

Point is Zeus doesn't pitch in OK. That's all.

[gejohnston]

34. But he does in KS

or anywhere else his true believers call upon him.

[rdharma]

7. Missouri Man Shoots Guy In The Face With A Shotgun While Watching Chiefs Game

Last edited Mon Jun 24, 2013, 06:19 PM - Edit history (1)

Missouri Man Shoots Guy In The Face With A Shotgun While Watching Chiefs Game

Ronald L. Hall, a 65-year-old man from Lee's Summit, Mo., has been charged with assault and criminal action after allegedly shooting one of his son's friends during Sunday's Chiefs-Bengals game. According to NBC's Kansas City affiliate, Hall and the victim had been watching the game at Hall's house when some drunken insults escalated into violence.

~snip~

He also told police his father was ill-tempered and mean and his disposition had gotten worse in the last year, according to court documents.

~snip~

Hall's son and the victim were outside the house when a loud noise rang out.
The victim fell to the ground with a shotgun wound to his face.

Original article here: http://www.kshb.com/dpp/news/crime/man-charged-in-lees-summit-shooting-that-led-to-an-hours-long-standoff-with-police

[gejohnston]

9. I'm guessing he went to the same

gun safety course as Dick Cheney?

[rdharma]

11. But Dick Cheney hadn't been drinking when he shot his buddy in the face.......

Just kidding!

[CokeMachine]

14. More flame bait that has

fuck all to do with thid thread!! Please tell BoBo I said hello!!

[NaturalHigh]

23. I don't post here very often.

I didn't realize that "hijack thread with flame bait" was protocol for some of these people. Live and learn, I guess.

[CokeMachine]

29. That's about all they have.

They troll this group just trying to get a post hidden. They have their own protected group but it is rather boring so they bait this group. Hell, I copied and pasted one of their posts as a response. Mine was hidden the other was not. There are also a couple of posters that have been banned or used socks, in the past, that post here with their flame bait. Read a few threads and you'll be able to figure them out. We've got bongbong (ppr'd for racist comments), sharesunited, and one creating a sock to get around the jury system.

They are anti-RKBA so they are cool!!

Note to jurors -- I didn't call anyone out except PPR'd members.

[NaturalHigh]

35. It's one of those "don't feed the trolls" things, then?

I'll keep that in mind next time.

[Lizzie Poppet]

42. Seriously, stop responding to this troll.

He's become a caricature...and it's painfully obvious he has no desire to have an actual rational conversation. Since anti-gun trolls get a free pass, it's not worth complaining to the admins (and I think most of us agree the jury system's a broken joke). The only recourse is to let him have his little tantrums in isolation.

[NaturalHigh]

43. Thanks. I'll keep that in mind.

The best way to handle a child's tantrum is usually to ignore it.

[Lizzie Poppet]

44. Cool.

Didn't mean to come across like I was telling you what to do. 'Twas meant as a suggestion, but I didn't phase it very well...

In most Groups, such an obvious troll would have been bounced long ago. Not sure what's up with the admin(s) here...

[Jenoch]

50. Why were the Chiefs and Bengals playing

each other in June???

[Eleanors38]

55. They had a bet to see who paid for Vietnamese noodles.

[tularetom]

31. Sucks to be that intruder, huh?

I fail to see what justification there is for breaking into somebody's home at stupid o'clock in the morning.

I'm not paranoid but I keep a revolver in the night stand and a shotgun in the hall closet for the simple reason that I don't trust the sheriff's department to be here in time to deter an armed intruder in the wee hours. It's pretty lonely out here and there are no regular patrols within miles.

[rdharma]

33. And if I get pissed catching one of my teen daughter's suiters making a mid-night call ..........

.... I have a perfect excuse to shoot his ass and be done with it.

[oneshooter]

51. So you are willing to shoot and kill your daughters boyfriend?

" I have a perfect excuse to shoot his ass and be done with it."

[rdharma]

52. No. But nice try at twisting my words and taking out of context!

Is that all you've got? REALLY?

[oneshooter]

53. So you deny what you wrote? Typical.

[rdharma]

54. So you deny you're trying to take what I wrote out of context?

Typical!

[premium]

60. Oh boy, talk about hyprocrisy!!!!

[CokeMachine]

63. It's just more BB flame baiting!! It's all it has anymore. nt

[CokeMachine]

62. More flame bait from you??? nt

[NaturalHigh]

36. I have a handgun, but my shotgun is what I keep most handy.

First, I'm a lousy shot, so the shotgun kind of evens things out. Second, I would hope that clicking sound it makes when I cock it would make the intruder think again before I have to shoot.

[rdharma]

40. Be careful who you shoot when things go "bump" in the night.

You might end up shooting somebody you didn't want to!

[ileus]

46. doesn't matter if they can arrive in 36 seconds if

You need it in 33 seconds.

[ileus]

45. That's why we call them personal safety devices.