Gun Control & RKBA
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I'm sorry, Mr. Glaze two people each day in the US are murdered with bare hands. His idea were "you talk or fist fight with with someone with a ax handle." That is the most absurd thing I have heard from MAIG yet, and that is saying something. Self defense advice from a lobbyist. Yeah, OK.
http://www.opensecrets.org/revolving/rev_summary.php?id=29912
CHRIS MATTHEWS: Would you consider the guy with the axe handle armed or not?
MARK GLAZE: Not with a gun.
CHRIS MATTHEWS: I would consider him armed [laughter].
MARK GLAZE: I have a word for him. I grew up in Colorado where my dad was a gun dealer, and a guy who shoots somebody who has anything other than a gun when they could have done something else like talk or fight with their fists
CHRIS MATTHEWS: How do you talk to a guy with an axe handle?
MARK GLAZE: Well, you fight him. You run away. You deescalate the situation.
BTW Chris, we know George was getting his head bashed in for 45 seconds based on the trial and evidence.
To Jonathan Capehart that finds the reasonable person standard "insane", perhaps some research before getting in front of a camera. There was a time when journalists did such things. I find your ignorance insane.
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Reasonable+person+standard
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reasonable_person
krispos42
(49,445 posts)...how much injury should the gun-holder suffer (or be threatened with) before he or she can fire in self-defense?
Mr. Glaze here seems to think that if I'm legally carrying concealed in a parking garage and a guy with a club steps out from the shadows and threatens me with a blunt weapon, I'm suppose to leave my gun in my holster because it would escalate the conflict. Or I guess if I draw it, because it's a gun versus a club, I'm not legally allowed to fire it because it would be disproportionate.
The fundamental idea here is that "I don't want a fair fight!" This is not some regulated and officiated competition that's going on. And I in no way, shape, or form agreed to fight in the first place; it is being forced upon my be an outsider who, considering the fact that he's wielding a club, ALSO isn't interested in a fair fight.
Me have a concealed pistol may "escalate" the situation. If the less-intense situation is me beaten while my attacker leaves with my valuables, and the more-intense situation is me unharmed with my attacker dead or disabled from gunshot wounds, I'll take the escalation, thank you very much.
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)petronius
(26,602 posts)quarrel with you...
beevul
(12,194 posts)Is it fair to call the group "mayors against self defense with a firearm" now?
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Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)I also doubt there's a one of them that is willing to see their police departments do without
fully-automatic weapons and a militarized SWAT team...
rrneck
(17,671 posts)that requires people to do certain things under unspecified circumstances and hope to enforce it.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Almost as stupid as bringing an axe handle to a gunfight...