Armed, Locked and Loaded: The Worst and Most Intimidating Gun States

[SecularMotion]

These are states with the most Wild West gun laws where you are most likely to encounter someone -- anyone -- with a gun: Alabama, Arizona, Georgia, Indiana and Mississippi.

It is legal in these states for people with absolutely no training to walk around armed and to carry their guns openly in the streets.

It is legal in these states to bring loaded guns into gambling establishments, sporting events and restaurants that serve alcohol. It is legal in these states to carry weapons into stores and shopping malls, and in some cases even onto college campuses and into bars and houses of worship.

In all of these states, it is legal to shoot first and claim self-defense much the way George Zimmerman did with Trayvon Martin and hundreds of others have done in less publicized cases.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/leonard-steinhorn/armed-locked-loaded-gun-control_b_5002847.html

[rrneck]

1. Very good.

Looks like a page from the NRA Fearmongering Manual.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

2. Facts or fear. Which to choose?

[jimmy the one]

9. facts are facts

Your map of violent crime rates shows higher areas of violent crime rates in the states of California (south), Arizona, Texas, Florida, & the Maryland/Northern Virginia hub of Washington DC. Then comes high crime counties in South Carolina; then note Denver & Atlanta.
... Only California & Maryland are considered gun control states (toss in Illinois which didn't report), while Texas, Arizona, South Carolina are very pro gun, & Florida & Georgia & Virginia are pro gun (toss in Pennsylvania as progun which didn't report, tho philly has some ccw restrictions).
... Facts are facts, as you say, but I dunno what you're bragging about.
At best you'd get a push, accd'g to your map, tho it seems there's more progun counties up there.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

10. If gun control works then why are there such high rates in CA and MD but

if the OP is to be believed why aren't there similar rates in more open states according to the breathless hyperbole of the OP?

Apparently there are factors at work outside of gun control. Maybe if you really wanted to end human suffering you would address what is really driving higher violent crime rates rather than harassing honest people.

As a side bonus if the controllers actually dealt with violent crime rather than their fetish over inanimate objects they would then be undercutting one of the most potent pro-gun arguments: violent crime is significant and people have a right to defend themselves in such an environment. Wouldn't that be a clever strategy?

[Skip Intro]

11. The facts don't support the agenda, hence you get the spin and fear. n/t

[ManiacJoe]

3. Made the mistake of clicking on the link....

There is two minutes I am not going to get back....

[aikoaiko]

4. This is how the NRA is describing recent legislative action in GA on gun laws.

Georgia: Historic Victory for the Second Amendment

Shortly before midnight last night, within the last hour before adjournment of the 2014 legislative session, House Bill 60 was agreed to in the state House of Representatives by a 112-58 vote and sent to Governor Nathan Deal (R) for his expected signature into law.

As previously reported, HB 60, as amended, had multiple transformations throughout this year’s session, and at one point was in real trouble of being watered down beyond repair. Thankfully, your activism through repeated phone calls, e-mails and visits to the Capitol carried the day. Your gun rights were not only preserved this year, but were restored and advanced further than they ever have in the history of the Peach State. This truly is an historic day for Georgia gun owners, shooters and sportsmen.

Upon the Governor’s signature, HB 60 will enact the following pro-gun reforms for all law-abiding gun owners in Georgia:

Remove fingerprinting for renewal of Weapons Carry Licenses (WCL).
Prohibit the state from creating and maintaining a database of WCL holders.
Create an absolute defense for the legal use of deadly force in the face of a violent attack.
Lower the age to obtain a concealed WCL for self-defense from 21 to 18 for active duty military, with specific training.
Allows for the use of firearm sound suppressors while hunting.
Repeal the unnecessary and duplicative state-required license for a firearms dealer, instead requiring only a Federal Firearms License (FFL).
Prohibit a ban on firearms in public housing, ensuring that the right to self-defense should not be infringed based on where one calls home.
Codify the ability to legally carry, with a WCL, in sterile/non-secure areas of airports.
Require reporting those persons who have been involuntarily hospitalized or have been adjudicated mentally deficient to the NICS system while also providing the ability for relief through an application process to the court system allowing for restoration of gun rights.
State that under a declared state of emergency, all law-abiding gun owners will not have their Second Amendment rights restricted or infringed by executive authority through Emergency Powers protection.
Strengthen current firearms preemption statutes through further clarification of the regulatory authority of local governments, excluding firearm discharge ordinances.
Remove the sweeping restrictions on legally carrying a firearm with a WCL in bars, leaving this decision to private property owners.
Allowing for churches to opt-in for legal carry with only a civil penalty of a $100 if a person happens to carry into a prohibited church unknowingly.
This resounding victory must first and foremost be credited to our members, who tirelessly worked to ensure that passage of this bill was possible. We also thank the following state lawmakers who went above and beyond this year and were critical in seeing this bill through to the end. The NRA’s gratitude cannot be conveyed enough to the below state legislators for their unwavering support:

- House Speaker David Ralston (R-7)
- Representative Rick Jasperse (R-11), original bill sponsor
- Representative Alan Powell (R-32)
- Representative John Meadows (R-5)
- Representative Jay Roberts (R-155)
- Representative Mandi Ballinger (R-23)
- Representative Dusty Hightower (R-68)
- Representative Stephen Allison (R-8)
- President Pro Tem David Shafer (R-48)
- Senator Bill Heath (R-31), original bill sponsor
- Senator Tyler Harper (R-7)
- Senator Butch Miller (R-49)
- Senator Jeff Mullis (R-53)
- Senator Ross Tolleson (R-20)
- Senator Mike Dugan (R-30)
- Senator Jack Murphy (R-27)
- Lieutenant Governor Casey Cagle

These elected men and women were critical to the passage of this important and significant pro-gun legislative package, not only with their votes but also with their outspoken support and actions throughout the entire 2014 session. Your NRA would also like to thank the pro-gun group, Georgia Carry, for working alongside us to get this bill passed and sent to Governor Deal for his signature.

While we fully expect Governor Deal to sign HB 60 into law, please contact the Governor and politely ask that HB 60 receive his signature in the coming days. Governor Deal can be reached at [phone] and by e-mail here.

[gejohnston]

5. I wasn't going to bother, but

These are states with the most Wild West gun laws where you are most likely to encounter someone -- anyone -- with a gun: Alabama, Arizona, Georgia, Indiana and Mississippi. It is legal in these states for people with absolutely no training to walk around armed and to carry their guns openly in the streets.

That is true of only Arizona and Mississippi, the other two require permits to open carry.

It is legal in these states to bring loaded guns into gambling establishments, sporting events and restaurants that serve alcohol. It is legal in these states to carry weapons into stores and shopping malls, and in some cases even onto college campuses and into bars and houses of worship.

CCW holders can do that in California, plus they can even carry in courtrooms (unless you are the plaintiff of a civil trial or the defendant of a criminal trial). Shit, Wyoming doesn't even do that.

In all of these states, it is legal to shoot first and claim self-defense much the way George Zimmerman did with Trayvon Martin and hundreds of others have done in less publicized cases.

That is actually true in all 50 states, DC, and territories. He picked a poor example to use, since Zimmerman didn't "shoot first". It was proven beyond any doubt that he yelled for help for at least 40 seconds while getting his head beat in the sidewalk before firing as a last resort. If I were writing this wretched screed, I would have used Mike Dunn, or the retired cop near Tampa as examples.

[Token Republican]

6. There are two options

First is to have an intelligent dialogue and actually have reasonable gun control laws that would actually save lives.

Second is to spew any bit of gibbeish and ignore responses. That results in more stupid laws being struck down.

Here's to the return of pistol grips.

[Straw Man]

7. And ...

It is legal in these states to bring loaded guns into gambling establishments, sporting events and restaurants that serve alcohol. It is legal in these states to carry weapons into stores and shopping malls, and in some cases even onto college campuses and into bars and houses of worship.

... if you leave off college campuses, the same is true of New York State. Ssssh ... Don't tell Andy Cuomo.

[ileus]

8. Who is being intimidated?

What other rights would you like to deny them based on fear?