Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumGun control advocates should be censored.
The state and federal constitutions are firm. The case law is settled. Any further debate only brings unnecessary disturbance.
As long as we're talking about rights that can be subjectively abrogated.
YouYou1
(2 posts)Yup. What you said.
randys1
(16,286 posts)we will all be safe
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)otherwise I'm sure you'll be able to provide a cite for the "once every single man, woman and child regardless of age has automatic machine guns we will all be safe" comment.
virginia mountainman
(5,046 posts)An "automatic machine gun is?! Does it have a shoulder thing that goes up?
jimmy the one
(2,708 posts)nuc-uni: Gun control advocates should be censored... The state and federal constitutions are firm. The case law is settled. Any further debate only brings unnecessary disturbance.
You're so wrapped up in the 2nd amendment you completely forgot, or misinterpreted, the first one.
The state and federal constitutions are firm.
You do realize the 2nd was an amendment to the constitution, don't you? albeit technically, ok.
and most (37) state constitutions were written after the 2nd amendment?
and some of the earlier state constitutions contained 'militia only' provisions?
You could self delete this thread you know, probably your best bet to save face.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Unless you think every other amendment added to the Constitution is also infirm. You know, things like the end of slavery, equal protection under the law, the repeal of Prohibition, presidential term limits, universal suffrage, etc. Heck, you're practically re-arguing my (sarcastic) point of abrogation based on subjective whim. After all, the 1A was also amended TO the Constitution the same time as the 2A. What is legal sauce for the goose is legal sauce for the gander.
Perhaps it is you that should consider self-deleting.
jimmy the one
(2,708 posts)nuc uni, engaging in double double talk talk: The fact something was an amendment to the Constitution doesn't make it infirm. Unless you think every other amendment added to the Constitution is also infirm. You know, things like the end of slavery, equal protection under the law, the repeal of Prohibition, presidential term limits, universal suffrage, etc. Heck, you're practically re-arguing my (sarcastic) point of abrogation based on subjective whim. After all, the 1A was also amended TO the Constitution the same time as the 2A. What is legal sauce for the goose is legal sauce for the gander.
So in other words, you are sticking to your below contention, in spite of first amendment protocols:
nuc uni: Gun control advocates should be censored
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)there's a sarcasm smiley smack dab in the middle of the OP. I'm transposing gun grabber arguments to demonstrate their selective hypocrisy. Normally I assume the interlocutor understands but I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)...and use sacastic or sardonic past statements as sorry tools to make no point.
Some even have screen caps going back a year, or two, or three.
I take it as a good sign.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)being sarcastic by saying as much parenthetically.
blueridge3210
(1,401 posts)I was wondering about the angst given the clearly visible "sarcasm" gif. Oh, well.
jimmy the one
(2,708 posts)nuc uni: I'm sticking to my guns including the fact there's a sarcasm smiley smack dab in the middle of the OP.
Backpedaling furiously I see; funny you didn't mention sarcasm per premise in your post #7, where you tried to defend what you'd OP'd in some weird reasoning:
nucuni,#7:The fact something was an amendment to the Constitution doesn't make it infirm
No mention of sarcasm there? why not? you tried to defend your OP as written.
nuc uni cont'd: Unless you think every other amendment added to the Constitution is also infirm. You know, things like the end of slavery, equal protection under the law, the repeal of Prohibition, presidential term limits, universal suffrage, etc.
no hint of sarcasm there. You're defending what you wrote as being serious.
nuc uni cont'd Heck, you're practically re-arguing my (sarcastic) point of abrogation based on subjective whim.
well laudy dah, there it is! you clearly claimed your tailing was the point of your sarcasm, not the opening premise. Oh my, I do hate to see gun enthusiasts hoisted on their own petards (since it happens so often I get sick of it).