Man with gun successfully defends self at Orlando Wal-mart

[OriginalGeek]

This happened about 5 miles from my house...

Orlando police said two men were beating up on another man. The shopper told police he was about to fall to the ground when he took out his gun and pistol-whipped them.

The Walmart was evacuated for nearly two hours while police took photos.

The man with the gun will not be charged, police said, because he has a permit for the weapon and was defending himself.

Read more: http://www.wesh.com/news/30451115/detail.html#ixzz1mKM6LUlT


Good guy won although he was roughed up some. Hopefully the cops will catch the attackers before they strike again.

ETA: I meant, as far as I know, the good guy won. At least what we know from the article, the gun owner acted responsibly and defended himself even though his attackers got away. He may be a total bastard the rest of the time but all we know is what we know.

[Loudly]

1. Interesting choice to pistol whip instead of shoot.

Was that restraint on his part or did he forget to load it?

[OriginalGeek]

5. There are a few other details I wonder about

the story is pretty skimpy on details.
Why was he attacked in the first place?
I wonder if he drew his weapon intending to shoot or just wanted to scare them off him.
Did the reporter notice if they had any Tim-Tams on the shelf? I love those things and my Walmart is always out of them.

[spin]

8. He probably didn't have a round in the chamber...

and was trying to fend off the attackers with his off hand. Of course, he might have been responsible enough to be hesitant about opening fire in a Walmart.

At any rate, pending further investigation, this appears to be a story that ended well.

[Hoyt]

11. Why not be positive and assume he figured he could take them without shooting.

I know the thought is foreign to most here who strap on a gun or two before venturing out. Not to mention all the practice they do in preparation of shooting someone -- whether they are armed or not.

[ManiacJoe]

18. Because that is a very poor assumption to make.

The more likely situation is that is realized that he needed to take them without shooting because the situation did not give the opportunity to shoot.

Guns make very poor clubs. Using a handgun as a melee weapon is never the the intelligent first choice.

[rl6214]

19. Typical BS from you, do you lay awake at night thinking up this crap ?

If someone did not practice you would say they were not prepared or trained enough and when they do practice, they are like "most here who strap on a gun or two before venturing out". Make up your mind, or minds.

[Hoyt]

21. I spend less time on that than you do conjuring up ways to justify more guns.

[AtheistCrusader]

22. We don't need to conjure up justifications to own more guns.

You do it for us all the time with your ban nonsense.

[rl6214]

25. I don't need to justify more guns

If I want them, I buy them, simple as that.

[TheWraith]

16. It might have been the easier choice at that point.

If they were very close to him, it might have been hard to aim the weapon correctly.

[Sherman A1]

2. 2nd Amendment rights aside

this is just another reason not to shop at Wal Mart.

[GreenStormCloud]

6. Your favorite store is not immune from such crime either. N/T

[Skwid]

14. I'm not a big WM fan but 2 things come to mind: They are hardly responsible for what happens

beyond their control, and some of us either shop there or drive 60 miles to another store. If I were to do that I imagine somebody would be pissed at me for using that much gas. It's a no-win situation when it comes to Wally World and "liberals" (I'm a liberal by most criteria but not so much it makes me an idiot).

[ileus]

3. Never thought of my p229 as a potential impact weapon.

[Clames]

9. That was one of the first things I noticed...

...with my fullsize USP is that it would leave a nasty bump if struck with. Very solid chunk of steel the slide is made from.

[Hoyt]

10. As this guy illustrates, one can often use something other than a bullet to subdue attackers.

I suspect a lot of toters would have fired away.

[rl6214]

20. I don't think "toters" can do much firing away

http://www.toter.com/company.htm

[BiggJawn]

28. I need new reading glasses...

I thought he said "taters".

[Atypical Liberal]

4. 2-to-1 odds. He should have just used some judo on them.

[spin]

7. Yup. Judo will teach you to handle up to five attackers and karate up to ten...

I see it all the time in the movies and on TV.

[Remmah2]

12. Unless you're attacked by ninjas. nt

nt

[spin]

13. Good point....

I don't ever want to mess with one of them.

[Glassunion]

15. That's no ninja.

This is a ninja...

[TheWraith]

17. But then it's governed by conservation of ninjutsu.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ConservationOfNinjutsu

[AtheistCrusader]

23. Or brought a squirt bottle full of water and a little bleach.

[burf]

24. In another story

the police took the gun from the guy as evidence even though he was licensed concealed carry and not charged. Why?

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Police-Man-with-gun-acted-in-self-defense-at-Walmart/-/1637132/8771202/-/11fw61cz/-/

[OriginalGeek]

26. The only thing I can possibly think is

that the want to get DNA off the gun so if/when they find the attacker who got hit they can compare? Or maybe if he's attacking people in a store he is already on file and the DNA will identify him?

Either way though, they could just swab his gun couldn't they? No need to take it - especially when he isn't being charged. Of course, I only know CSI forensics so I'm just asking...

[burf]

27. The only reason I can think of

is to see if the bump in the hoodlum's head matches the contour of the weapon.