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jpak

(41,758 posts)
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 05:10 PM Feb 2012

(GOP) Bill proposes massive overhaul to Georgia gun laws (guns everywhere all the time)

http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-government/bill-proposes-massive-overhaul-1351904.html

Georgians would be allowed to carry concealed weapons in bars, public schools, most government buildings, college campuses and other locations under a sweeping gun bill filed in the House.

In addition to banishing many current restrictions, House Bill 981 would prevent police or the National Guard from disarming people during states of emergency, and it would allow citizens to sue if that occurred.

Rep. Sean Jerguson, (edit R-douchebag) -Woodstock, one of the bill's co-sponsors, said Thursday that it strikes a balance between the Second Amendment, which guarantees the right to bear arms, and personal property rights. For instance, any church or business, such as a restaurant or bar, would be able to decide whether to allow concealed weapons, he said, and regulations that limit the right to carry, such as when consuming alcohol, are still in place.

Critics say it goes too far and could endanger the public.

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(GOP) Bill proposes massive overhaul to Georgia gun laws (guns everywhere all the time) (Original Post) jpak Feb 2012 OP
They are such a perfect parody (or caricature) of themselves. CurtEastPoint Feb 2012 #1
Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #2
given that this law is kind of mainstream, gejohnston Feb 2012 #4
Kinda mainstream among GOP/NRA douchebags jpak Feb 2012 #5
do you ever have anything of substance to say? gejohnston Feb 2012 #6
My cause is to expose GOP/NRA gun insanity for what it is - extremism - it is not "mainstream" jpak Feb 2012 #7
How do you feel about anti-gun/Brady insanity and extremsim? cleanhippie Feb 2012 #11
It is neither jpak Feb 2012 #28
Hahaha, ok. I guess the self-delusion is complete. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #29
You are asking for something other than teenage intellect and name calling. rl6214 Feb 2012 #21
Only in the way that it is mainstream among anti-gun/Brady douchebags. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #10
the second paragraph is gejohnston Feb 2012 #3
tell that to the pastor who daughter had her brains blown out in flroida nt tech_smythe Feb 2012 #8
still a church state issue gejohnston Feb 2012 #9
Or you could look at an incident like the mass shooting at Wedgwood Baptist in 1999 S_B_Jackson Feb 2012 #25
The right wingers supporting this have always loved guns and intimidation. Hoyt Feb 2012 #12
and pick handles gejohnston Feb 2012 #15
Most mayors are against guns in their cities too. Why, because more guns are not the answer. Hoyt Feb 2012 #16
most mayors? gejohnston Feb 2012 #17
Well, let's not forget the "white" collar criminals/racketeers at Glock. Hoyt Feb 2012 #33
glock.....ummmmmmm ileus Feb 2012 #34
pass a law that police departments need to buy US gejohnston Feb 2012 #35
That's great -- we'll just let criminals and racketeers take over the distribution of guns. Hoyt Feb 2012 #36
With the M&P line they're winning back some of those contracts. ileus Feb 2012 #37
"gubnor"? A little bigotry showing here towards the people of Georgia? rl6214 Feb 2012 #22
Toward racists who elected an uneducated man for simple reason he chased Blacks down street with gun Hoyt Feb 2012 #26
Bigotry is bigotry, guess that confirms it rl6214 Feb 2012 #30
"Bigotry is bigotry" -- No it is not. I would hope you too detest folks like Lester Maddox. Hoyt Feb 2012 #31
Actually gejohnston Feb 2012 #32
Everywhere? All the time? Really? beevul Feb 2012 #13
(guns everywhere all the time) oneshooter Feb 2012 #14
"(guns everywhere all the time)" PavePusher Feb 2012 #18
Would you care to expand... ellisonz Feb 2012 #24
ok. consider the bold to be violations (imo) others feel free to add or change: Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #38
welcome to yesterday... ileus Feb 2012 #19
Only morons or douchebags would say the bill would allow rl6214 Feb 2012 #20
I believe it is closer to a lie. oneshooter Feb 2012 #23
To bad it's not (DEM) in front but I'll let anyone carry my water. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #27

CurtEastPoint

(18,646 posts)
1. They are such a perfect parody (or caricature) of themselves.
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 05:15 PM
Feb 2012

So predicatable. From Jerkerson's FB page:

Sean along with his wife, Kate, and their two children, Eli and Claire, reside in Holly Springs, Ga. They are actively involved at First Baptist Church Woodstock. Political Views Very Conservative
Religious Views Christian

Work Info
Employer: HiCaliber Firearms
Position: Owner
Location: Holly Springs, GA

Response to jpak (Original post)

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
4. given that this law is kind of mainstream,
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 05:25 PM
Feb 2012

and has been for years, it is kind of like when South Carolina repealed its handgun ban in 1965 (enacted in 1902, it banned private ownership of most handguns by other than "special deputies" ie, guys who kept their evening attire in the linen closet. Historically, the south had stricter gun laws than most of the US). In other words, nothing. There will be no noontime duels, shoot outs over parking spaces, or any other bad things.
What does this law have to do with gay bashing?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Pistols

http://www.alternet.org/rights/50039/


jpak

(41,758 posts)
7. My cause is to expose GOP/NRA gun insanity for what it is - extremism - it is not "mainstream"
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 05:41 PM
Feb 2012

yup

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
3. the second paragraph is
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 05:22 PM
Feb 2012

more than reasonable. Aside violating the 5A, many of those guns most likely landed up in the personal collections of NOPD and Blackwater.

For instance, any church or business, such as a restaurant or bar, would be able to decide whether to allow concealed weapons, he said, and regulations that limit the right to carry, such as when consuming alcohol, are still in place.

How is that unreasonable? A church is the same as any other business. To treat churches different than other private property turns it into a church/state issue.

S_B_Jackson

(906 posts)
25. Or you could look at an incident like the mass shooting at Wedgwood Baptist in 1999
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 02:08 AM
Feb 2012

or the several mass shootings at churches since.

I don't believe it unreasonable that a person with a Concealed Handgun License would carrying a concealed weapon in a church as a means of self-defense (and to possibly defend other congregants).

There is no special magical protection which emanates from the altar...and the same rule - that the police have no duty to protect any individual - exist here as well.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
12. The right wingers supporting this have always loved guns and intimidation.
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 06:01 PM
Feb 2012

They probably all see themselves like former Governor Lester Maddox who rose to "fame" chasing Blacks out of his restaurant with a gun. Neil Boortz actually got his start in hate politics writing racist speeches for the racist, gun toting "gubnor."

Guns have an ugly history here.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
15. and pick handles
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 07:03 PM
Feb 2012

and I was in 4th grade in Wyoming, so what does that have to do with me? When I was in South Carolina, most of gun owners I knew were also African American.
Gun control also has an ugly history in the south, that is why until the 1960s, it had stricter laws than most of the US outside of New York. Some of them have since been repealed. Do you think the NAACP supported South Carolina's 1902-1965 handgun ban? North Carolina's licencing? Texas required a licience for handguns 100 years ago. Look up Texas v Miller 1894.
Florida banned open carry in 1893 because the sight of black migrant workers "toting" scared the shit out of white people.

http://www.cardozolawreview.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=134:kopel201099&catid=20:firearmsinc&Itemid=20

Canada's 1934 handgun law was all about fear of immigrants, nothing about "civil society".
Oh yeah, Maddox is fucking dead. The south of that time period is on life support, if not dead. Much of Florida is Long Island south.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lester_Maddox

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
16. Most mayors are against guns in their cities too. Why, because more guns are not the answer.
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 07:20 PM
Feb 2012

Restrict them for everyone -- like most countries do.

As to racist Lester Maddox -- an uneducated man at best -- he started with guns, then went to ax handles so he could sell them for a small amount to the racist who loved him for chasing Black famalies -- including women and little kids -- down the street with his friggin gun. You find me a confederate flag waver and I'll show you a racist and gun toter. I'd rather the worthless souls leave them at home.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
35. pass a law that police departments need to buy US
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 02:22 PM
Feb 2012

not Austrian.

Taking police buyers to strip bars? A free trip to a strip club ended Smith and Wesson's near monopoly?

ileus

(15,396 posts)
37. With the M&P line they're winning back some of those contracts.
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 04:46 PM
Feb 2012

along with some healthy incentives.


 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
26. Toward racists who elected an uneducated man for simple reason he chased Blacks down street with gun
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 02:08 AM
Feb 2012

I guess that is OK with you?
 

rl6214

(8,142 posts)
30. Bigotry is bigotry, guess that confirms it
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 01:49 AM
Feb 2012

"Toward racists who elected an uneducated man for simple reason he chased Blacks down street with gun"


And as usual you have no fucking clue what you talk about, you only make excuses.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
31. "Bigotry is bigotry" -- No it is not. I would hope you too detest folks like Lester Maddox.
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 09:09 AM
Feb 2012

But I forgot, he used a gun so he has to be a model citizen in your mind.
 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
13. Everywhere? All the time? Really?
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 06:02 PM
Feb 2012

Does the bill require you to allow them into your home?

Oh.

So its not really "everywhere" or "all the time" at all, is it.

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
14. (guns everywhere all the time)
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 06:21 PM
Feb 2012

"For instance, any church or business, such as a restaurant or bar, would be able to decide whether to allow concealed weapons, he said, and regulations that limit the right to carry, such as when consuming alcohol, are still in place."

I don't believe that you even read your own posts. And I know that you rarely even bother to answer questions, exept to be dirisive and somewhat vulger ( I wonder what happened to "civil discourse"in your posts) answers.



 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
18. "(guns everywhere all the time)"
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 08:11 PM
Feb 2012

Blatent lie and violation of ToS.

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ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
24. Would you care to expand...
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 11:27 PM
Feb 2012

...how you think this post violates the Terms of Service and/or the Copyright Policy?

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
38. ok. consider the bold to be violations (imo) others feel free to add or change:
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 04:59 PM
Feb 2012

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rl6214

(8,142 posts)
20. Only morons or douchebags would say the bill would allow
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 08:42 PM
Feb 2012

guns everywhere all the time. I would call it intellectual dishonesty but that would be saying that there is some sort of intellect there.

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