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Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and Capt. Mark Kelly Statement on the Tragic Shooting in Douglasville, GA
Support Americans For Responsible Solutions in any way that you can and help Gabby and Mark to enact sane legislation to address the gun violence epidemic in this country.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12628283
Support Americans For Responsible Solutions in any way that you can and help Gabby and Mark to enact sane legislation to address the gun violence epidemic in this country.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12628283
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Stop NRA-backed lawmakers from exploiting campus sexual assault
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Xpost:Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and Capt. Mark Kelly Statement on the Tragic Shooting in Douglasville, (Original Post)
beevul
Feb 2015
OP
Why only the partial quote, and mixing up context of who said what? That's pretty sloppy.
Electric Monk
Feb 2015
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Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)1. Why only the partial quote, and mixing up context of who said what? That's pretty sloppy.
http://americansforresponsiblesolutions.org/news/
TUCSON, AZ Former Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords and retired Navy combat veteran and NASA astronaut Capt. Mark Kelly, the Co-Founders of Americans for Responsible Solutions, issued the following statement after the tragic shooting yesterday in Douglasville, Georgia:
Once again, a tragic act of gun violence has destroyed a family and ripped a community apart. And once again, an apparent family dispute combined with a gun in the wrong hands meant that innocent people died. As Gabby and I know all too well, there are no words that can ease the grief for the families of those who were lost. Our hearts, prayers, and thoughts are in Douglasville.
Facts on Gun Violence and Domestic Violence:
* A gun is the most commonly used weapon in domestic homicides.
* Access to firearms increases the risk of intimate partner homicide upwards of five times more than in instances where there are no weapons.
* Women in the U.S. are 11 times more likely to be killed by a gun than are women in other high-income countries.
* From 2001 through 2012, 6,410 women were murdered in the U.S. by an intimate partner using a gunmore than the total number of U.S. troops killed in action during the entirety of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars combined.
TUCSON, AZ Former Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords and retired Navy combat veteran and NASA astronaut Capt. Mark Kelly, the Co-Founders of Americans for Responsible Solutions, issued the following statement after the tragic shooting yesterday in Douglasville, Georgia:
Once again, a tragic act of gun violence has destroyed a family and ripped a community apart. And once again, an apparent family dispute combined with a gun in the wrong hands meant that innocent people died. As Gabby and I know all too well, there are no words that can ease the grief for the families of those who were lost. Our hearts, prayers, and thoughts are in Douglasville.
Facts on Gun Violence and Domestic Violence:
* A gun is the most commonly used weapon in domestic homicides.
* Access to firearms increases the risk of intimate partner homicide upwards of five times more than in instances where there are no weapons.
* Women in the U.S. are 11 times more likely to be killed by a gun than are women in other high-income countries.
* From 2001 through 2012, 6,410 women were murdered in the U.S. by an intimate partner using a gunmore than the total number of U.S. troops killed in action during the entirety of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars combined.
(emphasis mine)
Then, billh58 added
Of course, according to the right-wing gun lobby and its supporters, Gabby and Mark are just "playing to the emotions of the public" when they point out the harm that gun violence causes American families every day of the week, 365 days a year. And the gun nut solution to gun violence against women? More guns, or course.
Support Americans For Responsible Solutions in any way that you can and help Gabby and Mark to enact sane legislation to address the gun violence epidemic in this country.
Support Americans For Responsible Solutions in any way that you can and help Gabby and Mark to enact sane legislation to address the gun violence epidemic in this country.
beevul
(12,194 posts)3. I quoted the parts I intended to quote.
I thought I had made it plain when I said
"Noteworthy, because as of this writing, this sits 2 above a thread entitled:
Stop NRA-backed lawmakers from exploiting campus sexual assault
Stop NRA-backed lawmakers from exploiting campus sexual assault
Here, let me make it more plain:
Saturday, strongly worded complaints are issued by "group A" that others are "exploiting" rape.
Sunday, "Group A" strongly exploits a shooting.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)4. Link was provided. Calm down, please.
Giffords is on the right side of this thing, on our side, we have been calling for these things:
Gabby and Mark strongly support the Second Amendment, which confers upon all Americans the right to own a gun for protection, recreation, and collection. However, that right also requires basic responsibility, and as a society we are responsible for keeping guns out of the hands of dangerous people like criminals, terrorists, and the mentally ill.
Federal law requires that individuals seeking to buy a gun at a licensed dealer pass a background check to prevent criminals, domestic abusers, the seriously mentally ill, and other dangerous people from purchasing firearms. Since the NICS instant background check system was implemented in 1998, background checks have denied transfers to over 1.7 million prohibited purchasers.
However, there is a gaping hole in our laws that allow criminals and others to go to private sellers at gun shows, on the internet, and elsewhere to buy guns with no background check, no questions asked. Commonly referred to as the private sales loophole or gun show loophole, this failure in our public safety policy has allowed up to 40 percent of all gun transfers to take place without a background check.
--snip--
Congress should act quickly to fix the criminal background check system for gun sales by 1) getting the names of everyone who isnt allowed to buy a gun into the background check system, and 2) providing a background check for every gun purchase, with limited exceptions. Over 90 percent of Americans agree with this policy.
http://americansforresponsiblesolutions.org/solutions/criminal-background-checks/
Federal law requires that individuals seeking to buy a gun at a licensed dealer pass a background check to prevent criminals, domestic abusers, the seriously mentally ill, and other dangerous people from purchasing firearms. Since the NICS instant background check system was implemented in 1998, background checks have denied transfers to over 1.7 million prohibited purchasers.
However, there is a gaping hole in our laws that allow criminals and others to go to private sellers at gun shows, on the internet, and elsewhere to buy guns with no background check, no questions asked. Commonly referred to as the private sales loophole or gun show loophole, this failure in our public safety policy has allowed up to 40 percent of all gun transfers to take place without a background check.
--snip--
Congress should act quickly to fix the criminal background check system for gun sales by 1) getting the names of everyone who isnt allowed to buy a gun into the background check system, and 2) providing a background check for every gun purchase, with limited exceptions. Over 90 percent of Americans agree with this policy.
http://americansforresponsiblesolutions.org/solutions/criminal-background-checks/
I don't see why billh58 felt it needed to be posted in a protected group, we like most of her ideas.
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)5. * A gun is the most commonly used weapon in domestic homicides.
in 2008, but not likely now. See figures 25a and 25b on page 17.
http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf
We both that if you can get a bag of weed or score some coke, you can get a gun. The rule applies anywhere in the world.
stone space
(6,498 posts)2. In what way do you feel that these gun survivors...
...are being disingenuous?
Do you want them to kiss your guns?
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)6. he is correct in the hypocrisy of the other group
that is what he is pointing out and just flies right over your head.
I guess he has to make the hypocrisy meter somewhat bigger. One side it is OK to exploit a story.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)7. It's not about Giffords it's about claims of exploiting tragedy.
pablo_marmol
(2,375 posts)8. Your post could be translated to herp....a derp.....a derp
with absolutely no loss in terms of coherence.