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virginia mountainman

(5,046 posts)
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 10:16 PM Aug 2015

The #1 effect of the loud calls for gun control is:

The data in the 2015 report shows an estimated increase in firearms manufacturing in the U.S. of more than 100 percent within a four-year period. In 2010, more than 5.4 million firearms were manufactured. That number climbed to more than 10.8 million in 2013. The most recent available firearm manufacturing statistics are through calendar year 2013.

Pistols make up the bulk of the firearms manufactured, with 4.4 million produced in 2013. That is an increase of more than one million pistols produced compared to the previous year. The number of rifles manufactured also increased from 3.1 million in 2012 to 3.9 million in 2013.


From the ATF's 2015 Report on Firearms Commerce in the U.S.

https://www.atf.gov/news/pr/atf-releases-2015-report-firearms-commerce-us-0

It's not the NRA driving the gun industry's profits, it's a handful of gun control advocates with bloomberg's 1#'er money and their cheerleaders in the mainstream media driving the sales....

Well done, everytime they say "common sense", they cause a sales spike in gun stores nationwide , I wonder who they "REALLY" are working for, since they clearly are not having success in their avowed goals of "ridding the nation" of guns



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The #1 effect of the loud calls for gun control is: (Original Post) virginia mountainman Aug 2015 OP
Right, sure..... daleanime Aug 2015 #1
What? virginia mountainman Aug 2015 #2
Personal attack w/ no reference to the subject of the OP. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #10
Modern Political Behavior 201. nt Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #13
fear of a black president nt msongs Aug 2015 #3
Or, it could be the anticipated aftereffects of the Heller (2008) and McDonald (2010) branford Aug 2015 #4
Ok, you have ANY evidence to back up your statement? virginia mountainman Aug 2015 #5
Lame try to paint gun ownership as racist. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #8
What about folks that owned firearms before 2009??? ileus Aug 2015 #9
Sales began ramping up even when Obama was thought to be a peanut butter brand... Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #11
The response: sarisataka Aug 2015 #6
The problem isn't that gun control advocates want to improve our current gun laws ... spin Aug 2015 #7
The OP and video is worthy of a... a Cartoon!! Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #12

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
1. Right, sure.....
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 10:24 PM
Aug 2015

like you've really paid attention to any thought that wasn't lock step and loaded.

Have a lovely evening.

virginia mountainman

(5,046 posts)
2. What?
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 10:49 PM
Aug 2015

You have anything to say about the content of the OP? Other than a personal attack on the person that posted a link from the ATF?

 

branford

(4,462 posts)
4. Or, it could be the anticipated aftereffects of the Heller (2008) and McDonald (2010)
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 11:08 PM
Aug 2015

Supreme Court decisions, followed by the public's reaction to renewed calls from familiar politicians, including the president, for gun control after the Sandy Hook shooting (2012).

https://www.atf.gov/file/89561/download

Whether you like it or not, when politicians call for bans (or anything remotely similar), demand tends to increase. This along with the public's increase support for gun rights and greater availability of concealed carry virtually guaranteed good years for the firearm industry (increases in American military spending also probably greatly benefited a number of the relevant companies).

Blaming such notable firearm manufacturing increases on racism without actual cited evidence, particularly in the context of significant gun rights judicial and legislative victories and much improved public polling during the same period, is lazy and inexcusably condescending to liberal Democratic and minority gun owners and their supporters.



virginia mountainman

(5,046 posts)
5. Ok, you have ANY evidence to back up your statement?
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 11:35 PM
Aug 2015

100% increase, over the last 4 years, Obama has been president for 7...

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
8. Lame try to paint gun ownership as racist.
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 09:27 AM
Aug 2015
Concealed Carry Permit Holders Across the United States

John R. Lott Jr.
Crime Prevention Research Center

John E Whitley
Crime Prevention Research Center; Institute for Defense Analyses

Rebekah C. Riley
Crime Prevention Research Center

July 13, 2015

Abstract:

Since President Obama’s election the number of concealed handgun permits has soared, growing from 4.6 million in 2007 to over 12.8 million this year. Among the findings in our report:
-- The number of concealed handgun permits is increasing at an ever- increasing rate. Over the past year, 1.7 million additional new permits have been issued – a 15.4% increase in just one single year. This is the largest ever single-year increase in the number of concealed handgun permits.
-- 5.2% of the total adult population has a permit.
-- Five states now have more than 10% of their adult population with concealed handgun permits.
-- In ten states, a permit is no longer required to carry in all or virtually all of the state. This is a major reason why legal carrying handguns is growing so much faster than the number of permits.
-- Since 2007, permits for women has increased by 270% and for men by 156%.
-- Some evidence suggests that permit holding by minorities is increasing more than twice as fast as for whites.
-- Between 2007 and 2014, murder rates have fallen from 5.6 to 4.2 (preliminary estimates) per 100,000. This represents a 25% drop in the murder rate at the same time that the percentage of the adult population with permits soared by 156%. Overall violent crime also fell by 25 percent over that period of time.
-- States with the largest increase in permits have seen the largest relative drops in murder rates.
-- Concealed handgun permit holders are extremely law-abiding. In Florida and Texas, permit holders are convicted of misdemeanors or felonies at one-sixth the rate that police officers are convicted.

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2629704
 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
11. Sales began ramping up even when Obama was thought to be a peanut butter brand...
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 06:41 PM
Aug 2015

That would be 'Bama brand.

I voted for Obama twice, btw. A more likely reason for the sales is when it was discovered that the gun control outlook wore no clothes, and had little grasp of the "issues" of gun control beyond War On Drugs political modeling; one way or another, most folks know about prohibition. And who it is aimed at.

spin

(17,493 posts)
7. The problem isn't that gun control advocates want to improve our current gun laws ...
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 05:25 AM
Aug 2015

It's that some insist on trying to ban certain firearms and a few wish to ban or greatly restrict all civilian ownership of firearms.

Is it any wonder that when the new assault weapons ban was being proposed in Congress in 2013 that gun buyers cleaned the gun store shelves of weapons such as the AR-15 as well as all other firearms? Had that bill not been proposed we might have been able to pass more reasonable gun legislation that would have helped insure that only honest, responsible and sane citizens could legally buy firearms. We might have also passed better legislation to help curb the straw purchase of firearms and the smuggling of firearms into our inner cities for illegal sale.

The solution in my opinion is for gun control advocates to simply ban the use of the word "ban". It might not happen overnight but once gun owners realized that their "right" to own firearms was not threatened they might actually help get some well thought out legislation passed. Responsible gun owners don't want irresponsible people, people with serious mental problems or criminals misusing firearms any more than people who hate firearms do.

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