Arrested dad wants answers after daughter draws gun pic

[alp227]

Jessie Sansone and his family are reeling after he was arrested and strip searched by police after his four-year-old daughter drew a picture of a man with a gun in her Kitchener, Ont., kindergarten class.

The 26-year-old father of four said Saturday the sketch was supposed to be him, getting the bad guys and monsters.

The school must have thought differently, as after Nevaeh drew it Wednesday, the school contacted Family and Children's Services and they called police.

Waterloo Police met Sansone at the school when he tried to pick up his kids he was told he was charged with possession of a firearm. He was then handcuffed and put him in one of the several squad cars waiting outside, he said.

full: http://www.torontosun.com/2012/02/25/arrested-dad-wants-answers-after-daughter-draws-gun-pic

How low are the evidence standards at this police department if a 4 year old kid's drawing is enough evidence to bring up criminal charges of possessing a firearm?

[Politicalboi]

1. Wow!

This is getting scary. Salem witch trials here we come. "You say you're a magician, but the children saw you make the bunny disappear". Off to the corn field with you.

[tularetom]

2. The only answer I would want is how soon my lawyer could sue the fucking idiots responsible

And WTF is the world coming to when the mere possession of a firearm is cause for arrest?

[Starboard Tack]

6. The point is he didn't have a firearm.

There are many parts of the world and even the US, where possession of a firearm is illegal. That said, the reaction to this kindergarten drawing is absurd and Sansone should sue.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

12. Yes he should sue.

And those parts of the US and the world should begin recognizing the RKBA.

It's quite pleasant not to need to carry a firearm but it leans toward slavery to be arrested for owning one.

[Starboard Tack]

15. "leans toward slavery to be arrested for owning one" - really?

I wouldn't go that far. I think people should be able to own guns, as long as they own them responsibly, like not carrying them around in public.
However, if the law makes it illegal to own, then it's just another law that some don't like. Hardly a high priority issue and nothing like slavery. Slavery is alive and well in this country on both federal and state levels http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8289

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

17. Fear gives rise to many things...

"When governments fear the people, there is liberty.

When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."

When people fear each other, there is psychiatry.

[Starboard Tack]

18. Very true!

[rl6214]

16. Holy shit and hallelujah

I agree with you completely.

[Starboard Tack]

19. Well, hell rl, let's drink to that!

BTW, I did use your name as a voice of reason earlier today, in another thread. Hope you don't mind. I'd much rather deal with a gladiator who understands the consequences of entering the arena, than deal with the bloodthirsty sycophants in the gallery, who applaud the bloodletting at every opportunity, yet fear drawing their own swords when their sheep are threatened.
'tis a strange and wonderful world we live in. again!

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

20. 'tis a strange and wonderful world we live in.

I heard that!

[Starboard Tack]

21. Indeed it is.

[rl6214]

30. Cheers to you

[auntAgonist]

3. Very scary. This happened in my hometown. Here's a couple of links.

http://www.therecord.com/news/local/article/676744--gun-leading-to-dad-s-arrest-was-a-toy

http://www.therecord.com/opinion/columns/article/676704--d-amato-if-we-err-let-s-err-on-the-side-of-our-kids-safety

[oneshooter]

13. "Very scary" in what way? That the man ws arrested, or that he "might" have possesion of a firearm?

[auntAgonist]

22. Very scary for the family that it was dealt with in such a way.

F&CS has a reputation there for not taking action in the past in cases that it should have and may have over reacted this time. I can only imagine how frightened the children must have been.

A few police cars at the school might have have been a bit much too.


and I would add that I have no problem with him legally and responsibly owning a firearm.

aA

[gejohnston]

31. not knowing anything about the Canadian legal system,

but a kid's drawing is enough to get a search warrant?

[Turbineguy]

4. Republican DNA

in the form of Santorum is leaking out all over. I suggest sitting on a plastic bag when flying. You never know who was in that seat the last flight.

[oneshooter]

10. What the heck does that have to do with the OP?

[Remmah2]

26. Read the third line.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/117217995#post17

[Logical]

5. This is just plain stupid. I would not call this "reasonable cause". Of course it is canada.

[Starboard Tack]

7. Don't blame Canada. This is about teachers and police out of control.

IMO all involved should spend a weekend, at least, locked up for false arrest and imprisonment. Might make them think twice next time. Gun fearers are just as nutty as gun lovers. Crazy doesn't pick sides.

[Logical]

11. I agree. Cops never really have a downside to abusing power.

[auntAgonist]

23. agreed

[friendly_iconoclast]

24. I wouldn't be so quick to kick Canada, either. Three years ago, in Connecticut:

Professor Called Police After Student Presentation

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x203717#203727

[rl6214]

32. Damn, this is getting to be a habit...I agree with you here.

[Leftist Agitator]

8. The Founding Fathers crafted the 2nd Amendment specifically to prevent nonsense like this.

And wise to craft it they were, indeed. This situation would never have occurred in the majority of the United States, provided that the father wasn't a felon, or otherwise prohibited from owning a firearm.

This might be the first time in my life that I can honestly say that I'm glad that I live in the U.S. instead of Canada.

[MrSlayer]

9. This is the nanny state gone wild.

Someone else drawing a picture of you with a gun somehow is evidence that you have a gun?

If I drew a picture of someone, say Dick Cheney, robbing a bank in Canada can he be arrested for bank robbery?

This is lunacy.

[Starboard Tack]

25. No, it's an over reaction coming from the right place.

The intentions were not malicious. Caregivers and social workers over reacted and an over zealous police department joined the fray. The culture is very different in Canada regarding guns, especially around children. They fucked up, big time, and should face the consequences, but it is always better to err on the side of caution than do nothing, as often happens here. Think Loughner, Columbine and many others.

[Indiana]

14. Canada's Mentality

I have been to Canada many times. I have had many conversations with citizens about guns. It is a totally different mindset. You start discussing about how to defend yourself and some people actually dig in their anti-gun arguments. Some have common sense and will actually understand a real life scenario.

[DWC]

27. Wonder why we fight so hard defending the 2nd amendment?

Just re-read the OP but change the location from Kitchener, Ont., Canada to Your Town, Your State, USA.

Semper Fi,

[Atypical Liberal]

28. I can't figure out why people would be so hung up about daddy owning a gun.

I own lots of guns. I can't imagine living someplace where it would be arrest-worthy to have my daughter draw a picture of me with a gun.

[SteveW]

29. FEAR!! As so many gun-controllers like to say. nt

[Hoyt]

33. Dads ought not do weird stuff with their guns in front of daughters.

[gejohnston]

34. now you are getting creepy

or is it satire? Are you pretending to be an anti just to poke fun at them? Or are you just being creepy?

[Hoyt]

35. Creepy is dads' playing with their guns in front of kids.

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