MSI Nationwide Handgun Permit Issuance Map

[Kennah]

Very cool map from MSI.

http://marylandshallissue.org/get-informed/shall-issue-maps/

[Angleae]

2. And just what do CCW permits have to do with drive-by shootings?

It's not as though the gang members actually carry legally.

[Kennah]

3. So you are hoping for violence?

[Callisto32]

4. What a vile thing to say.

You will make no friends here, hoping for violence.

[pipoman]

5. What a repugnant bit of ignorance this spew is..

do you wish for DUI fatalities on non-dry counties too? An AIDS epidemic on places which recognize same sex marriage? So Archie Bunkerish, you should really be ashamed of the utter stupidity of such a filthy statement.

[pipoman]

6. For the ignorant to look at this map

and the one below, knowing that virtually all violent crime is experiencing a 20 year decline, and still proclaim concealed carry to be a blood-in-the-streets mistake is just astoundingly stupid...or as with the poster above, wishful that those who see the stupidity should be murdered...such a peacful bunch those who oppose concealed carry are, huh?

[oneshooter]

7. Map is wrong, Hawaii does have "may issue" for concealed carry.

[PavePusher]

11. It is "may issue" in law, but "no issue" in actual practice. n/t

[X_Digger]

12. Which is probably also why CA and NY are broken down by county. n/t

[oneshooter]

13. As long as the law is in effect, they have to allow if this bill passes. n/t

[ileus]

8. Less red and yellow would be great.

[Ottopoint]

26. No red and yellow.

That would be even better!

[Atypical Liberal]

9. Could also be a crime map

Areas in red experience high gang-related crime, too.

I wonder if there is a correlation?

[jeepnstein]

10. Urban centers.

CCW and gang activity are two totally different issues. Most gang members are frequent fliers with the justice system and are under from disability from owning firearms for the most part.

[PavePusher]

14. If there is one, it's not close enough to be apparent on that map.

Lots of localities with high crime rates exist that are in "shall issue" areas of that map, but aren't discernable.

The cutting questions are: 1. After adoption of "shall issue" or "Constitutional carry", did crime rates go up, stay the same or go down? 2. Is the change demonstrateably linked to the change in gun laws/legal carry numbers?

[Kennah]

16. Welcome to DU!

[Tuesday Afternoon]

23. Nice Work

[Glaug-Eldare]

17. Cleaned it up a bit, no county lines

I'm also assuming that Franklin County, MA is predominantly permissive.

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[slackmaster]

18. San Diego County isn't exactly permissive, but it certainly isn't No-issue

[Glaug-Eldare]

19. Think it would qualify for special-issue, then?

Can a normal (non-politician, non-LEO, non-wealthy) citizen get a carry permit in San Diego county if, for instance, they've been threatened or have a dangerous job?

[slackmaster]

21. Your chart, your choice. I know several people who have permits, but they all had to provide...

..."good reasons" e.g. carrying large amounts of cash or valuables on the job. Sheriff Gore is not a big proponent of the RKBA. OTOH he hasn't demonstrated the kind of corruption and tit-for-tat permit issuance for which a recent Orange County sheriff got into hot water.

[Glaug-Eldare]

22. Aha! Sounds like special-issue to me

and CalCCW more or less corroborates this. I'll change it when I get home.

[ileus]

20. Let Freedom Green...

[Meiko]

24. I remember back when

the concealed carry movement first took hold. The anti's were screaming. "it will be like the wild west"..."There will be blood flowing in the streets" Well, we are still waiting.

[ileus]

25. It's coming....wait for it.....wait........waaait..........just a few more days.

any minute now...