Jury: Virginia Tech negligent in 2007 shootings ($4m per family)

[shadowrider]

The University will appeal and attempt to limit the award to $100k

CHRISTIANSBURG, Virginia (AP) — A jury on Wednesday found Virginia Tech negligent for delaying a campus warning of the first two shootings in a 2007 campus massacre that left 33 dead.

Jurors returned the verdict in a wrongful death civil suit brought by the parents of two students who were killed on April 16, 2007, in the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history.

Jurors deliberated for just 3 ½ hours before awarding $4 million to each family, and the state immediately filed a motion to reduce the award. State law requires the award to be capped at $100,000.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iqzRZUHFQ32SJGq2rpKenfl0bq-A?docId=e99f63ec3c374686b0a685a787042e69

[TheWraith]

1. Good verdict. Shitty state law, though. nt

[Atypical Liberal]

2. Not to mention VT prohibits people from carrying the means to resist such attacks.

I think of any facility prohibits firearms then they take on the responsibility for the safety of people in the facility.

[iverglas]

3. gee, you mean the plaintiffs didn't make that argument?

That if all the victims and everybody else had been allowed to carry firearms, well of course they all would have done so and hardly anybody would be dead now?

They didn't argue that in their suit??

How could that be ...

[gejohnston]

14. I don't know about that

but I would be amazed if the fact that VT campus police stood around with their fingers up their asses did not get mentioned.
Well, someone with a gun could not have made things worse, given the police were standing around outside, doing nothing other than counting the shots.

[iverglas]

15. sorry, but once again

that had nothing to do with what my post was about.

[gejohnston]

18. Actually

it did:

I don't know about that..........Well, someone with a gun could not have made things worse, given the police were standing around outside, doing nothing other than counting the shots.

that had something to do with it. Or was it about anything other than pointless snark?

[Callisto32]

27. C'mon Johnston, you know she never said that.

[virginia mountainman]

28. Actually that is not entirely correct...Let me explain!

A Concealed Weapon permit holder, that is not a student... May carry concealed on Virginia Tech's campus, even inside the buildings.

If one who is NOT a student, is found to be carrying concealed, can ONLY BE ASKED TO LEAVE..if they refuse, than it is at worst, a misdemeanor trespassing charge.

The ban on CCW at Virginia Tech, ONLY APPLIES to students and Faculty. They are the only ones whom fall under the "student and faculty" code of conduct. I am neither, so I do not fall under their code, those punishments simply DO NOT APPLY to me.

I know this, because I do CCW when I am on VT's Campus, including the buildings, I also have family members who are both students, and are in VT's leadership.

This fact flies right over 99.9% of Gun Control and their advocates in the media heads, they don't even try to comprehend this fact.

[Hoyt]

4. Now if families would go after gun manufacturers, gun stores, NRA, and Virginia for lax gun laws.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

9. Which gun stores...

...have "lax gun laws"?

[oneshooter]

10. The shooter bought his firearms from a shop, legaly.

Passed a background check and everything. The State of Virginia was lax in its reporting to the Feds.
Manufacturer did nothing wrong/against the law
Gun store obeyed the law, nothing wrong here
NRA had nothing to do with the sale/ nothing wrong here
State of Virginia, failed to send in required information to the feds, as required by law. FAIL

So sue the state, and see how far you get.

Oneshooter
Armed and Livin in Texas

[Hoyt]

12. Lots of things are legal, but still wrong and detrimental to society.

[oneshooter]

13. So tell me, what law was broken by any of them?

[Hoyt]

16. Banks stay within laws; polluters stay within laws; folks carry swastikas -- all wrong.

And I feel the same about those who promote and carry guns in public. Might be legal under the laws pushed through by right wingers in recent years -- but that does not make it right, or desirable.

[TheWraith]

26. Glad to see you're also opposed to free speech.

Oh wait I get it--you believe free speech just means speech you, personally, approve of.

Someday, you might learn to realize that you have no more right to be the moral arbiter of America, declaring what's good and evil, than the religious right does.

[Hoyt]

29. Nor do you. Interestingly religious right is pro-gun for most part.

[rl6214]

11. And which of those cause cho to go nuts and do what he did?

[Hoyt]

17. It's simple -- Cho likely would not, and could not, have done it without his lethal weapons.

[rl6214]

19. that's it, dodge the question, blame the gun and not the reason

typical

[Hoyt]

21. Better than excusing the gun that allowed him to do it. Without it, Cho would have been powerless.

[pneutin]

22. That's an overly simplistic view of the situation

but not surprising coming from you

[PavePusher]

23. "excusing the gun that allowed him to do it."

Animism, again?

[virginia mountainman]

5. The shooting was April of 2007....Larry Hinkler, VT spokeman said this in 2006

Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker was happy to hear the bill was defeated. "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus."

Uhh "feel safe"?!

http://www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/wb/xp-50658

I guess "feeling safe" is better than being safe.

[Simo 1939_1940]

6. "I guess *feeling safe* is better than being safe."

With this sentence you've spoken volumes. It sums up gun "control" perfectly.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

8. Never underestimate the power of denial. ;) n/t

[shadowrider]

7. It's all about feelings

[ileus]

20. Heading down to Christiansburg in the morning to pick up my new AR

stripped lower....

I can't wait.

[virginia mountainman]

24. Hmmm ileus..

We may not live that far apart...

I live down in Carroll County.. about 10 miles north of Hillsville.

[alp227]

25. if those families are humble they should donate a significant portion to charity.

the Brady campaign perhaps?